Media poll out

by JazzyUte on Aug 16, 2008 12:16 PM MDT in Football Comment 8 comments

The AP Top 25 was released today and it shows, just like the Coaches Poll, if the Utes win in Ann Arbor, they should crack the top-25 a week later. In the media poll, Utah comes in at 29th, or a spot lower than in the Coaches.

1. Georgia

2. Ohio State

3. USC

4. Oklahoma

5. Florida

6. Missouri

7. LSU

8. West Virginia

9. Clemson

10. Auburn

11. Texas

12. Texas Tech

13. Wisconsin

14. Kansas

15. Arizona State

16. Brigham Young

17. Virginia Tech

18. Tennessee

19. South Florida

20. Illinois

21. Oregon

22. Penn State

23. Wake Forest

24. Alabama

25. Pittsburgh

Others Receiving Votes:

South Carolina 84, Fresno State 83, California 59, Utah 53, Cincinnati 44, Florida State 41, Michigan 36, Boston College 32, Rutgers 32, Michigan State 21, Boise State 17, Arkansas 14, North Carolina 14, Connecticut 10, Tulsa 7, UCLA 6, Oregon State 5, Mississippi State 4, Virginia 4, Arizona 3, Nebraska 2, Notre Dame 2, Hawaii 1, Washington 1.

Utah and their opponents are in bold.

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I am truly mystified by all the love for Pitt

Pittsburgh hasn’t had a winning season since 2004 (anyone else recall their bowl game that year?) going 5-6 in ’05, 6-6 in ’06, and 5-7 in ’07. From those records, it is unjustifiable to be voting them in the top 25 until they actually start having more wins than losses.

They are getting far too much mileage from one game – their upset over West Virginia to finish their season. How did the AP voters collectively forget their seven losses?

Don’t try and argue that their Big East schedule was harder than Utah’s. They had two common opponents last year: Louisville and Navy. Pittsburgh went 0-2 against them.

Utah destroys Pitt in ’05 Fiesta Bowl. Utah has had a better record in each of the last five seasons (in ’03 Pitt was 8-5 and Utah was 10-2). Utah has a better record against their common opponents last year. And somehow Pitt starts the season ranked? That makes no sense whatsoever.

by Ute in DC on Aug 16, 2008 10:04 PM MDT reply actions

FEAR THE WANNSTACHE!!

Pitt gets the love for a couple of reasons.
1. Recruiting classes. Every class they’ve had since Wannstache got there has been good to excellent (for Pitt).
2. BCS – believe it or not, but the Big East is going to be considered a better conference than the MWC because of its affiliations.
3. Pitt has a great returning offense. They get Kinder back from injury, McCoy is a hell of a back and Pat Bostick showed a lot of promise last year.

If you actually beat Michigan like most of you think you will and Pitt falters then you can talk. But right now, before any games have been played, Dave Wannstedt’s moustache almost automatically gives them a top 25 ranking.

by Musket Rebellion on Aug 16, 2008 11:43 PM MDT reply actions

Good recruiting classes are a start

But often recruits do not pan out. Until they start winning games, it is debatable whether or not Wannstedt is a good recruiter. Just because a couple of so-called experts dub them 3 or 4 star recruits does not mean they will be good college players.

Second, you have to coach them. Wannstedt has not shown he can do that at the college level. Good college coaching involves developing players and good game planning. Without a single winning season to his credit since he went to Pitt in ’05, he has not proven he is a good college coach.

Everyone in college football has the exact same record 0-0 so I don’t need to wait to “talk.”

by Ute in DC on Aug 17, 2008 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions

Good recruiter + no wins = BAD COACH!

I disagree with you. If a program is getting good recruits and not putting up wins their is a problem.

If a program is sending players to the NFL regularly and not getting wins their is a problem.

Both of these are signs of extreme talent at a program not being used to their potential. It is the coaches job to use players to their full potential.

Boise State has excelled at this, Alabama not so much. Apparently Pitt is on the bad side of things.

by utesfan100 on Aug 17, 2008 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions

Agreed

I didn’t say Wannstedt was a good coach, I said he had a miraculous ’stache.

Your “I don’t need to wait to talk” comment is assinine. Like normal Pitt is rated high because of their recruiting prowess and this year because they beat WVU. I merely said wait until they falter (like they normally do) and then talk about how much better you are then them.

Also: Their, there, they’re. Come on people, use that education.

by Musket Rebellion on Aug 18, 2008 12:12 PM MDT reply actions

If you are going to point out the grammar mistakes of others . . .

1) “Then” is used to indicate a sequence of events. “Than” is used comparatively. They are not interchangeable.
2) You used two comma splices in this one post.
3) “Assinine” is not a word. I think you meant “asinine.”

by Ute in DC on Aug 18, 2008 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions