RES parking lot development plans released
by JazzyUte on Jan 22, 2009 8:19 PM MST
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PrintI'm sure a major debate is about to hit the Salt Lake area with these newly released plans. If you haven't heard, the University has decided to develop the parking lot just west of the stadium. Not much had been known about the plans, but today, initial renderings have been released.
This is what the plans call for:
via unews.utah.edu
via unews.utah.edu
To me, it's a pretty remarkable and ambitious development, but I think it could have great impact on the area. Not only would it create a social center for the campus, something sorely lacking at the U, it would also provide a pretty exceptional gameday experience.
Of course, these are probably only preliminary and as the debate continues, I would not be surprised if these plans changed dramatically. However, for a starting point, this looks pretty exceptional. We'll see what happens, but what are your thoughts on this project? Do you support something like this or do you think developing the parking lot is a bad idea?
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Do it...
I hope the U does this. I’ve heard comparisons to ASU’s Mill Ave – I can see that. Please UofU, do this – enter the new millennium. I would have loved this as a student.
While the U will always be a commuter school, having development like this will give students more reason to stay on campus, and more incentive to live nearer to the school. It would really add to the school’s “scene”.
So this is what 4.5 million can get started...
Are most of those buildings parking garages with first floor retail space? That could significantly improve campus parking through the week as well. The parking structures would need to increase the parking available at the lot from its current level arrangement.
I figured out how much 4.5 million amortized over 20 years was… It came to Whittingham’s pay raise. Coincidence?
Any word on a renovation of the south end zone? It could help in this important BCS statistic
. The fact that season ticket sales have increased each of the last 5 years and we averaged 101% capacity this year indicates that it may be time to expand the stadium. Adding 15,000 seats to the south end zone would make it much more compelling to get big name teams to travel to SLC.
Why would FSU travel to Utah when they can go to Provo with their 20,000 more seats? Teams should have a difference in average attendance less than 20% to warrant a home and home deal. Any team with an average home attendance over 56000 would have no compelling reason to sign a home and home with Utah’s 45500 attendance, same as us agreeing to a home and home with a team that averages an attendance of 37,000.
Take our upcoming 2 for 1 with Boise State and their 32300 attendance as proof of this concept. With an average attendance of 60,000 we would be as compelling for a home and away series as we are now for a 2 for 1.
I think stadium expansion really needs to get started yesterday.
Sell out 10,000 more seats, even for 3 games (BYU, TCU, one other big one) and it pays for itself quickly. If we sell out all 6 home games every year, even better, but an extra 30k tickets every year is worth the expansion right now. And we need to be out-pacing the mid-level pac 10 teams with attendance. Right now we are ahead of only a few (Oregon State and Washington State) but with another 5k average we’d jump right into the thick of things. We’re already #2 on the non-BCS list, and we won’t jump past BYU without a lot of sustained work, but increasing our attendance is a great way to make us bigger players. It makes us more money (for keeping assistant coaches, for instance), makes us look big time to recruits, makes our home field more imposing to opponents. All good things. Plus, with the labor and materials market where they are right now, we would be able to get a great deal on expansion.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
We only play BYU and TCU every other year
but when the increases for the other games, like big name out of conference games, are added in 30,000 more tickets per year are very likely.
To claim to be BCS worthy, and deserving of a home and home series with premier teams, with the #50 attendance is a little disengenuos.
Expand now to 60K, when attendance gets to 57K start thinking about expanding to 70K. At 5% growth, what we have experienced since 2003, in the fan base a year from 45K we can get to 70K seats filled in 10 years. Even at 2.5% per year it should be in our 20 year plan.
The NCAA Division 1-A median for % capacity is 81.91%. For RES this is 37350. We have not had an average attendance that low since 2003, after our 5-6 season with a first year coach.
10,000 seats would be the right number if the current level is the expected average. 15,000 would plan for another BCS bowl or two.
Demand for season tickets will be higher next year. I am certain designs for the expansion and upgrades of the facilities exist. It is time.
Dont do it...
People tailgate in that parking lot to relive pressure from the main lot. Now that we have gone undefeated there are gong to be a lot of people that are going to come tailgate that have never before or as I call them bandwagerners. in 2004 when we went undefeated there were so many new people tailgating and it was way to crowded, to crowded and if they develop that lot all those people that tailgate there are going to be forced to come tho the main lot witch will over crowed it.
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