TCU demolishes Utah in stunning, embarrassing contest
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 9:22 PM MST
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Really, I can't say anything except congrats to TCU for putting together the most decisive win I've seen against Utah in the post-Fassel era.
Had anyone told me the Utes would score 28 and lose by almost thirty points, I probably would have asked them if they found Whitney Houston's crack stash.
I don't know what else to say. This was an epic behind the woodshed thrashing that solidifies the Frogs' spot at the top of the Mountain West and shows us just how weak of an 8-1 team Utah really was.
Because of the nature of this loss and the fact I don't cope well with major defeat (yeah, I'm a pussy, but who gives a shit?), I probably will be MIA for a few days. I need time to lick my wounds and recover from the inevitable boozing that I hope will easily wipe away the memory of tonight's raping.
Hats off to TCU and they deserve that Mountain West title and national championship bid. They truly proved tonight they're the most dominant team in non-BCS history.
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TCU is scary good.
We should still be in the top 25 tomorrow. Not far from BYU.
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by utesfan100 on Nov 14, 2009 9:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
wow defense...
In all honesty putting up 28 against TCU is pretty good. I am just flabbergasted that our defense was pretty much non-existent tonight. I thought TCU would probably win the game, but if you told me we would score 28 points, I would have changed my mind. Jerry Hughes lived up to his billing, and TCU’s running backs/wide receivers looked FAST. Wow is all I can say. I hope TCU gets a shot at the National Title, because they looked like the best team I we have faced in a long, long time..
by seaute on Nov 14, 2009 9:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I did think our Defense was better than they played. That said, watching TCU’s offense last season roll up numbers but not points, I did feel this season they’d get off on a lot of people.
by MeanBobMean on Nov 16, 2009 9:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rolling up numbers and points...
Who does that sound like this year?
by JazzyUte on Nov 16, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Even better then the 2004 Utes?
Thats saying a lot, partly because TCU played better teams this year and that Utah team never got to prove themselves.
by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 14, 2009 9:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Utah 2009
is better than any team Utah faced in 2004. This game alone gives TCU a better benchmark to compare to, since neither had any opponents provide a significant challenge. TCU ‘s game vs. Clemson is comparable to Utah’s close win against Air Force in 2004.
TCU 2008 was almost as good as Utah 2008 and TCU 2009 is far better than that team.
This TCU team is likely the best MWC team in the 11 year history of the league.
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by utesfan100 on Nov 14, 2009 10:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
The Mountain West in 2004 was terrible.
Horrible, in fact.
It was probably one of its worst years.
TCU had yet to join. Colorado State and Air Force were spiraling downward after a decade of dominance (two in the case of the Falcons). BYU was working on their third straight losing season. New Mexico was a meh 7-5 and Wyoming – the only other bowl team that year outside of the Utes and Lobls – actually had a losing conference record that year.
TCU beats that team. So does Utah ‘08, but that’s because of the schedule.
There was not one win in 2004 that comes close to the total dominance we saw tonight.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 10:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ute Offense
Jordan Wynn did look good on those deep passes, he just needs to not stare down his target. The biggie was the pick six from staring down the opponents. So, is it Vegas bowl for Utes, maybe they can play USC in a rematch of the last time a Pete Carrol team had 3 or more losses. When was that 2001?
by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 14, 2009 9:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Hughes
Hughes just beat his man for the upteenth time.. He was clearly the game changer, the announcers were calling for a double team and I would have to agree, we had to do something to slow him down, I kind of felt bad for the Utah OT, he was giving effort but Hughes was just too much for him.
by utahmanami on Nov 14, 2009 9:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
GAME
it was very disappointing especially because I ordered the game, but in all honesty our defense sucked and i do blame that on the coaching not having them ready to play or know how to tackle. the penalties OMG WHAT THE FUCK 12/100 yards!!!! WOW that does need to be blamed on the coaching also for not having them disciplined and ready to go! but utah did put up 28 points which you have to give them credit for and TCU IS A LOT BETTER THAN I THOUGHT! Remember TRUE UTAH UTES FANS it is a rebuilding year and i feel like we are going to come back and win next week and BYU is bad! I feel it is going to be a 10-3 year or an 11-2! I am not pleased withy the play at all but give the freshmen some credit he can through deep which will be great in the year to come! COME ON UTAH LETS GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WIN NEXT WEEK!!!
by westvirginiautefan on Nov 14, 2009 9:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
So much for that spread...
disrespecting us. Turns out Vegas was being nice to the Utes.
I feel pretty silly thinking we could have kept it close and would only lose 17 – 7. I pretty much knew it would take a miracle for the Utes to win but damn.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 14, 2009 9:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
You feel silly?
I’m the one who said it was all bunk and we’d win.
Boy was I wronger than wrong.
But in all honesty, did anyone ever imagine a Whittingham defense giving up 55-points? That has got to be the poorest performance by a Utah defense since Ron McBride planted his ass up on the Hill in 1990.
Really, really disappointed with the effort there. I thought the offense did about all we could’ve imagined and the defense and special teams let them down.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 9:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
All I can say is that fucking sucked. Words can’t describe how bad we just had our asses handed to us.
On a positive note, I can honestly say that the best team in the country is in the MWC. I think there is no doubt in my mind that TCU would beat Florida, ‘Bama, or Texas right now on a neutral field. I just hope UT slips up against A&M or in the Big XII title game so they have a shot to prove it. Since USC lost today, I’d hate to see TCU draw Boise St. in a BCS bowl. Nothing good could come from that for the MWC. Been there, done that.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 14, 2009 9:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it wasn’t looking bad at 7-7. Wynn had just connected on a great pass, and Smithson had a nice run for the score..but than 28 unanswered points later.the blocked punt was the killler
by utahmanami on Nov 14, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The game was lost when, after scoring the touchdown, our defense decided to let TCU march down field to go up 14-7.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 9:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Concur...
Game. Set. Match.
Our defense didn’t show up at all today.
And for cryin’ out loud, stop it with the penalties. The Utes have to be close to a record this season for penalty yards, don’t they?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 14, 2009 9:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Even when the defense did something good we still got a penalty. We intercept but than get a unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for spiking the ball. WTF!
by utahmanami on Nov 14, 2009 10:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The most undisciplined I've seen the defense under Whittingham.
And that goes back to his days as the DC here.
The last time Utah gave up 55 or more points? 1983.
Ugh.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 10:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you meant 1993? But that wouldn't be correct either.
It was November 3, 1990 when Utah lost 66–14 at SDSU.
by Ute in DC on Nov 14, 2009 10:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Utes are what they are this year...a rebuilding team
We lost alot last year and have a new QB and 2 new coordinators. This is a rebuilding year and we’re 8-2. That ain’t bad at all. Don’t get down on the Utes, that TCU team is good enough to WIN a national title if they’re given the shot.
by GodisBrianJohnson on Nov 14, 2009 10:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I understand the rebuliding thing...
but the lack of discipline, all the penalties, and the turnovers are what really concern me about this team going forward.
I predicted the team would lose 3 or 4 games. I sure hope the 3rd doesn’t come in Provo. It’s not like I thought they would win tonight or go to another BCS game this year. I did expect them to play better against team like CSU, Wyoming, and TCU though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 14, 2009 10:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree with you.
It wasn’t rebuilding that cost us this game. In fact, it was supposed to be our defense that carried the load this year and they let us down big time tonight.
You’re right about not expecting a win. I knew it would’ve taken a miracle performance for the Utes to win tonight. But I never, even in my darkest nightmares, expected this type of performance.
Basically, out season hinges on BYU. If we lose that game, I will look at this season as nothing short of a disaster. Maybe that’s a bit extreme, but there is no good wins so far this season and BYU is our last hope – until the bowl game – for that.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 10:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need...
to be laying the smack down on Lucky G.
I blame him for today.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 14, 2009 10:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I already decided Lucky G is done.
It’s heartbreaking to end his run, but it’s over. :/
You don’t recover from a loss like this.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 10:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
utah is still goint to go 10-3 and maybe 11-2
this is a rebuilding year and i say they utes crush byu. byu beat new mexico by 5 points. then we might get lucky and get a crack at usc and their sorry azz qb matt barkley. if usc loses to arizona usc will finish fifth in the pac-ten. utah beats byu and we meet them in vegas bowl. the utes redeem themselves and beat usc for the second time in the vegas bowl. they beat them 10-6 in ron mcbrides second to last year or last year he coached. next year utah we be the undefeated team. we will have 2 qb’s who have ncaa experience. the most important factor and we have many returning players coming back. it’s just one game. i knew tcu was better. no lets get behind tcu and get them the best bowl possible. tcu will beat any team in front of them including florida. i saw the florida game and for the first time i saw tim tebow not move the pile. not only that i saw him lose yardage to s.c. tcu would give tt and the florida gators an azz kicking. peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 14, 2009 10:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want anything to do with USC...
I think they could expose our defense even more.
I’m really a pussy right now. I’m also drunk.
Ugh.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 10:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Judging from the way USC played against Stanford today, I think this year would be a perfect year to play them. Barkley is struggling and they can’t convert on third down. Utah’s D is a lot better than they played today. The problem today was that Utah’s offense couldn’t get anything going after the early score, leaving the Ute D on the field for the majority of the first half. I’d pick Utah by ten over USC on a neutral field in Vegas.
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 14, 2009 10:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
we wrote at same time
usc is the team that was exposed. utah jsut had too many penalties and tcu is faster. that’s all folks.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 14, 2009 10:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
USC still has athletes.
That can’t be underestimated. Utah’s defense is bad against quick offenses.
I don’t know. I’m just my usual emo drunk self after a loss.
by JazzyUte on Nov 14, 2009 11:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yes you are drunk and it's one game. life did not end i told you it would be bad
tcu is fast as zhit. as fast as the gators. utah would pound an unmotivated usc trojan team. i would RELISH AND ENJOY OUR AZZ KICKING OVER THAT OVER-RATED SUPPOSED BEST THREE LOSS TEAM IN THE LAND. UTAH 24 SUC EM UNIVERSIITY 14. PEACE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 14, 2009 10:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jazzy, please don't die of alcohol poisoning.
Watching Ohio State fans BOO THEIR TEAM after winning the Big Ten by ONLY a FG against an 11th ranked team reminded me how spoiled fans can get. All great teams/programs get taken to the woodshed every once in a while (see USC). Our program is in great shape and we have good things to look forward to.
That's none of your business...yet!!!
by beccers_pdx on Nov 15, 2009 12:08 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
You guys shouldn’t get down about your team this year, the D got stuck on the field early due to penalties and just got worn down by TCU’s running game as the game went on. And you certainly shouldn’t get down on your teams from the past, you guys have gone undefeated twice in the past six years, while TCU hasn’t had an undefeated season in the past 70 years. You guys have got a great coach, a good base of talent and fans, and you guys are going to be scary as hell next year.
You guys are going to Beat the Hell Outta BYU though. Go Utes for the rest of the year!
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 15, 2009 12:11 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
You guys are so arrogant
You sound shocked TCU is this good! Its remarkable. I don’t know if you thought they were overrated or what, but they are that good and they are that fast. BYU didn’t just lose to an average team. But you refused to believe it until today.
by BYUMC on Nov 15, 2009 1:16 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
FSU is still average.
But we may have been a touch delusional about how good Utah was. We knew TCU was good, but we thought Utah was too.
We are still the second best in the MWC. BYU can’t win big games at home.
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by utesfan100 on Nov 15, 2009 9:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you struggle with reading comprehension?
Because not once has anyone on this blog suggested TCU was just average. I want to see the evidence of this. If you’re going to make such a bold statement, at least back it up with fact.
Your problem is that you don’t know the difference between complaining that your team lost and complaining your team got its ass beat. I can understand, though, because you’re a BYU fan and by now you’re probably desensitized to the latter. Well here at Utah, we’re not. We’re not used to getting rolled from start to finish in big games. That’s more of a BYU-thing to do.
So, yes, we are a bit peeved at that. We’re not peeved the Utes lost to TCU. We’re peeved they got their asses handed to them. And I don’t care if you’re playing the 1st or 4th best team in the nation, there is no excuse for giving up 55-points. Even on the road.
But again, you probably can’t grasp that because your Cougars have blown so many big games over the years every loss bleeds together. Well I’m not that way. I have no problem accepting defeat to the #4 team in the nation. I do have a problem accepting the way we lost, however.
by JazzyUte on Nov 15, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey dork
No one here has ever said any such thing.
They lost to an average or below avergae squad when FSU dismantled them.
by MeanBobMean on Nov 15, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i knew tcu was better. i have a large fanpost(on mwc connection) i put up 10 days ago
that when tcu went undefeatred who we would want them to play. tcu can play for the national championship game if nebraska with it’s four losses beats texas in big 12 cg. cincy losses to pitt who will be in the top 10 when bcs poll comes out. tcu vs bama in pasadena!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 15, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As graduate of both Utah and USC, I have to say that yesterday was probably the worst day of football that I have ever experienced. Still, the Utes have a lot to play for. I want to see them pick themselves up, beat SDSU and humiliate the team down South. Then it’s on to the Las Vegas Bowl where they’ll have to face a very good Pac-10 team.
I also hope that TCU gets a decent opponent in their BCS game and stomps the hell out of them, too.
Honors B.A. 1999
by kadoogan on Nov 15, 2009 11:16 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Look guys there are some bright spots to take away from this. No team has scored a touchdown in Fort Worth all year, and Utah did it four times with a freshman QB. The defense ate a dick out there, but our red zone problems are finally over and the D (minus Shelby, dammit!) will be back to help put a beatdown on their next two opponents who are obviously waaaay out of TCU’s league.
Utah is going to smack their conference around next year. Count on it.
by cousin on Nov 15, 2009 12:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I do agree. Our offense is going to be special with Wynn.
Defense was the worst I’ve seen of the Whittingham-era (maybe Rice ’96 beats out this performance, but doubtful).
On the offensive end, we weren’t great by any means, but we probably had the best offensive performance of any team TCU has faced at home.
by JazzyUte on Nov 15, 2009 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to TCU
Let’s cheer them on to put the hurt ot a BCS team in a bowl game.
They may be the most complete non BCS team, of course, last year’s Utah team might have been the most complete.
They had it in for us since we won last year.
They are fast, talented, well coached and got their heads on straight.
Way to go Horned Toads, fairly beaten, congrats on your MWC championship.
by MeanBobMean on Nov 15, 2009 12:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I just can't wait to play them again next year.
Revenge is going to be sweet. ;)
by JazzyUte on Nov 15, 2009 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
utah will be extremely dangerous with 2 qb's with ncaa experience. if the ncaa can grant matt
asiata another year that would help and we are loaded at every position. plus we get pitt at home who will be ranked high right of the bat and we got notre dame who will give us a national audience to display how good we are. tcu loses there three best players on defense. we will beat them next year. i will congratulate the TCU HORN FROGS. just destroy anybody you play in the bcs bowl. as for the byu fan, beating new mexico by five measly points shows how average your team is. we will put an azz kicking on you and goto vegas bowl where i hope we get (what espn will describe the best four loss team in the nation) usc and crush them and their weak azz qb matt barkley so they will be emotionally damaged and not even compete for the pac-ten title. peace!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 15, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
We’ll see, they get back a lot of talent I think. We have good talent, it’s obvious they’ve one upped us, though, in speed.
Also, this is a growing pains season for our new coordinators or else our talent pool is vastly over stated. I think it is the former. Anyone think that with Whittingham or Anderson calling the D we’d have looked that bad?
Kilani Sitake is intense, talented, hard working. He’ll get us back to where we were, I have faith Whittingham will continue to improve this team and that next year we will be this good or better. Utah’s a far better team than it was in the past, win or lose, I’m not complaining and I’m happy to see us compete, game in and game out.
Jazzy, cheers for your honest angst and expressing it plainly during the game.
by MeanBobMean on Nov 16, 2009 9:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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