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First look at Holy War or: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

Well the statistics were right about that pesky TCU game, anyway! So, who's to say they won't at least paint a better picture about the Holy War? Especially when you consider the team that generally leads in the most categories (Utah last year, BYU in '07 and '06) generally wins the game. 

What we do know is that the Cougars probably have a better offense than Utah. Maybe that changes a bit if you factor in Jordan Wynn (after all, the Utes' offense is averaging 37 points and 411 yards per game since he became the starter), but I don't think the game sample is large enough to do that. 

On defense, though, Utah certainly is better there. Will that be enough to offset BYU's advantages on offense? Who the hell knows.

Anyway, the breakdown is after the jump...

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Utah BYU Edge
Passing Offense
#54 NCAA
221.9 YPG
#9 NCAA
303.0 YPG
Rushing Offense
#41 NCAA
176.0 YPG
#57 NCAA
149.7 YPG
Total Offense
#51 NCAA
397.9 YPG
#10 NCAA
452.7 YPG
Scoring Offense
#41 NCAA
29.8 PPG
#12 NCAA
35.5 YPG
Rush Defense
#61 NCAA
142.3 YPG
#28 NCAA
113.4 YPG
Pass Defense
#14 NCAA
176.4 YPG
#64 NCAA
220.7 YPG
Total Defense
#23 NCAA
318.6 YPG
#37 NCAA
334.1 YPG
Scoring Defense
#22 NCAA
19.2 PPG
#35 NCAA
21.5 PPG
Fumbles Recovered
#83 NCAA
7
#68 NCAA
8
EVEN
Fumbles Lost
#83 NCAA
11
#39 NCAA
8
Interceptions Thrown
#29 NCAA
7
#87 NCAA
14
Passes Intercepted
#13 NCAA
15
#37 NCAA
12
Turnovers Lost
#42 NCAA
18
#81 NCAA
22
Turnovers Gained
#34 NCAA
22
#48 NCAA
20
Passing Efficiency
#39 NCAA
60.99
#2 NCAA
70.31
Pass Efficiency Defense
#10 NCAA
51.37
#59 NCAA
61.06
Fewest Penalties Per Game
#105 NCAA
84
#86 NCAA
77
Sacks Allowed
#31 NCAA
15
#44 NCAA
17
Sacks
#55 NCAA
22
#55 NCAA
22
EVEN
Third Down Conversion Percentage
#51 NCAA
40.91
#1 NCAA
58.39
Third Down Defense
#8 NCAA
30.67
#82 NCAA
40.91
Fourth Down Conversion Percentage
#112 NCAA
23.08
#100 NCAA
33.33
Fourth Down Defense
#21 NCAA
36.84
#99 NCAA
63.16
Red Zone Offense
#79 NCAA
0.79
#27 NCAA
0.87
Red Zone Defense
#24 NCAA
0.76%
#39 NCAA
0.78
Special Teams
Punting
Field Goals
Kickoff Returns
Punt Returns

Like I thought, BYU's offense is better than Utah's - by a wide margin. The only category the Utes best the Cougars in is run offense and that, unfortunately, is their strongest point on defense.

On the flip-side, however, the Utes' best strength on defense is their pass defense, which just happens to be BYU's best bet on the offensive end. How's that for a nice twist?

Of course, like I mentioned earlier, does Utah gain more from their defense than the Cougars do from their offense? Statistically, I think they do. 

If you recall last year's game, the BYU downfall started with Max Hall's interceptions. It appears they're not better this year, ranking 87th nationally in interceptions thrown. Utah is also 13th in passes intercepted - potentially the biggest statistic heading into this year's Holy War. 

Beyond that, overall, the Utes do appear to be the better team. In the major categories listed, Utah leads in 13 to BYU's 11. That doesn't sound like a dramatic difference, but in a game like this, it could prove to mean a lot. 

To further what I mean, I did a more simple breakdown of the TCU game and Utah led in no categories, while only managing to pull even in four. 

Ultimately, this game is going to come down to the Ute defense. I don't really think they will have too much problem moving the ball on the Cougars and if the defense, specifically the run defense, steps up, they should win.

But that might be the biggest concern entering Saturday's rivalry game. While I said BYU's offensive strength is their passing game, you can't overlook their ground game either.

I am concerned about this because Utah  ranks 61st nationally in run defense. If the Cougars are going to win, it will be by exploiting potentially the weakest aspect of the Ute D. 

If you remember last year, Utah pretty much let BYU have their ground game. For whatever reason, the Cougars were set in passing, even though they were moving the ball far easier on the ground. Last season's Utes ranked in the top-ten in run defense. Quite a bit of difference.

Obviously, though, Utah's 2008 team was generally better statistically than this year's squad. But what's the difference between the numbers from 2008 and today? 

To get a better idea of how serious we should take these statistics, the Utes bested BYU in the following categories: 

 

  • Rushing Offense
  • Rushing Defense
  • Passing Defense
  • Total Defense
  • Scoring Defense
  • Passes Intercepted
  • Pass Efficiency Defense
  • Interceptions Thrown
  • Fumbles Lost
  • Turnovers Lost
  • Turnovers Gained
  • Sacks
  • First Down Defense
  • Third Down Defense
  • Fourth Down Defense
  • Red Zone Defense
  • Redzone Offense
BYU led in:
  • Passing Offense
  • Total Offense
  • Scoring Offense
  • Pass Efficiency
  • Sacks Allowed
  • First Down Offense
  • Third Down Conversion Percentage
  • Fourth Down Conversion Percentage
  • Fumbles Recovered
So, the Utes led in 17 categories compared to 13 this year. Not bad. The difference seems to come on offense, which isn't a surprise. Which means, like last year, Utah enters the game statistically better than BYU.

 

Does that mean a Utah victory? You tell me.

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We let BYU run last year because we knew once we got ahead Anae would abandon it and let Max try to win with his arm.

And we knew that once Max starting slinging the ball around we would get to take it away at least once (I’m sure no one saw 5 picks).

I actually think we’ll do the same thing this year. Lots of nickle and some dime, let them run and play to stop the pass. We’ll be throwing a lot anyway, unless Wide gets into a grove early. If wide is running well then we’ll just ride him to victory.

But like almost every Holy War, I expect this one to be close.

Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.

by displacedute on Nov 22, 2009 9:02 AM MST reply actions  

It should be close.

The only time it isn’t close is when there seems to be a clear discrepancy between the two (2004 and 1996) come to mind. Last year was close until the mid-3rd quarter and BYU began to collapse.

My guess: Winner 27, Loser 17.

Who will that be, though?

by JazzyUte on Nov 22, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Utah wins...

because we now have Wynn playing. byu’s defense can’t keep up with our recievers. They have never been able to. And although I’m sure displacedute is right about Utah leading is why they threw the ball….byu has always been a gunslinger offense. They hardly ever run the ball. It’s just not their offense.

I always tell all the fans of byu I know that Unga would probably be a Heisman contender for any other team, but because he plays for byu, he isn’t.

GO UTES!!

by Jman87 on Nov 22, 2009 10:34 AM MST reply actions  

utah wins 24 -17 and max hall throws two critical int's

we goto 10-2 and vegas bowl here we come. now all we have to do to face usc is for zona or ucla to beat them. 11-2 would be nice with a top 12 final bsc ranking and we would get a good starting point for next season. most over-rated qb’s in nation. matt barkley and max hall.

yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 22, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm excited to see what Wynn can do against this defense.

Our receivers match up very well with their defense. It’s going to be silly watching them try to defend us.

by JazzyUte on Nov 22, 2009 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

BYU

Can’t protect Hall, we blitz and drop back at odd times, confusing him and causing him to toss just 4 picks, but enough for us to win by 2 TDs.

by Aardvark on Nov 22, 2009 11:28 AM MST reply actions  

From the stats I posted above...

BYU is actually worse this season at protecting the quarterback. They rank 44th nationally in sacks allowed. Last season, they were in the 36th in this regard.

by JazzyUte on Nov 22, 2009 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

They should be worse.

Their line lost 4 seniors and has been dealing with injuries all year. Should be pretty good next year, however. Of course they lose maxi and harvey so their offense will likely suffer. Utah should have the best offense in the conference and top 15 in the nation next year if we get one receiver to step up and fill Reed’s shoes (consindering we have a returning QB, 4 returning OL, 3 returning RBs and 3 returning WR).

Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.

by displacedute on Nov 23, 2009 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Conversely

Our D line is not as nasty.

by Aardvark on Nov 24, 2009 7:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Our D in general next year will be a concern.

We lose 2 DL, all 3 LB, 1 CB, and both Safeties. We get back some really great talent, but not a ton of experience.

Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.

by displacedute on Nov 24, 2009 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Not as nasty, but Utah still is rated 55th nationally in sacks...

Utah was 40th last year. The drop off hasn’t been extremely bad.

by JazzyUte on Nov 24, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the Utes...

find a way to pull this one out. I just like our athleticism against the Y. I say Utes 41 – Cougs 24.

OT : Hey Jazzy do you remember this.

Well now look at this.

It appears even I gave the Irish way too much credit. I think they’d love 8-4 right about now. How does a program with so many highly recruited classes do so shitty. Weis has to be gone doesn’t he? Oh well, just found that article interesting.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 22, 2009 1:30 PM MST reply actions  

Always fun looking back...

Weis is probably done. I guess they could win out and bring him back for one more year (my hope, because they’re going to be good next year and a competent HC means a far harder game for us against them), but that is even unlikely.

Even if they were to beat Stanford, he probably gets the ax after that game. Maybe he coaches the bowl, Maybe not.

Regardless, Weis is not a good coach. It’s clear he isn’t good at managing a football team. He might be a play calling genius, but his other issues trump that.

And I’d take 41-24. Not sure if it’ll be that easy, though.

by JazzyUte on Nov 22, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know what to make...

of that game next year. It seems like every year we are hearing about how this is the year for Notre Dame. It should be a fun.

As for Weis, I just don’t get it. If recruiting is the most important thing in college athletics then he’s done pretty well. Play calling is another important part of the game too. You’d think that if you can recruit the big time players and call the right plays that they should be pretty good. Like you say though, he obviously is really failing in a lot of other areas.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 22, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

That or people are over hyping his classes.

Who knows, though. I think he’s a lot like Ron Zook. Can pull in the talent but just doesn’t get it.

Which means if it is just coaching and they hire someone competent, they could return to the top rather quickly.

by JazzyUte on Nov 22, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually want him gone.

Just like Rich Rod at Michigan instead of Carr. If he leaves the new coach comes in and changes the system. Plus it means Tate and Clauson will leave, and they’re losing 4 OL anyway. If he stays he might convince tate and clauson to stay.

Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.

by displacedute on Nov 23, 2009 9:11 AM MST up reply actions  

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