The Max Hall show
I'm not sure this is how BYU wanted to celebrate their win over Utah. Certainly it has tarnished what many considered a very memorable game.
Max Hall, fresh off his struggles Saturday, dropped this whopper in the post-game press conference:
"I don’t like Utah. In fact, I hate them. I hate everything about them." "The whole university and their fans and the organization is classless. They threw beer on my family and stuff and did a bunch of nasty stuff. I don’t respect them.
Now I'm not one to get worked up over heated words. Lord knows I've said some stuff on here in the past that could be considered far worse than what Hall uttered Saturday night. Yet I can't help but think he voided his argument by acting like a sore-winner. This plays into what I said earlier in my rant about why I hate BYU because that statement proves how the Cougars continue to look down their noses at us.
It isn't justified. It isn't justified because I think they make things up. I do not believe Hall's family had beer thrown on them. And if we're going to believe that, we better not forget that Kyle Whittingham's wife now has a fat lip because of an overzealous BYU fan.
Even in the off chance someone tossed beer on Hall's family - what's worse? A smack across the face or a little suds on your jacket?
Beyond that, though, Hall's comments show a total lack of tact. Remember Utah's blowout win last year? How many players even came close to uttering what Hall did after Saturday's game? None.
But what irks me the most isn't necessarily that he said it - but that he said it after his career had ended at BYU. It's one thing to throw smack around before the big game and it's another to do it knowing you'll never again have to face the team you're slamming. To me, it shows how cowardly Hall really is and that might be the most damning thing about this whole episode.
That and Hall wasn't the reason BYU won. He went on to say we deserved to win and Utah didn't. Why? Because they're better than us? No. But that they're entitled to it. Well Hall wasn't entitled to that victory. He struggled for most of the game and nearly cost them a victory with his poor game management during the fourth quarter. Had it not been for BYU's defense and their ability to come up big on Utah's final drive of regulation (holding them to only a game-tying field goal) and the first series of OT (another field goal), I don't think the Cougars win.
Then Hall is left probably saying absolutely nothing. But instead of dishing out the credit and rallying his team around a very nice victory to end the regular season - he pops off about how much he hates Utah, the institution and its fans. And he has the audacity to suggest we're classless?
How does that make the other players feel? All the attention they could have received from the media is now not going to their win, but to their quarterback's remarks. Which, coming from a winning quarterback, seemed way out of line.
And people wonder why I don't like the Cougars?
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i dont care
If Max hates Utah but he was a sore winner
by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 29, 2009 1:31 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I just wish he were coming back next year.
You get the feeling if he was returning, he wouldn’t run his mouth.
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 1:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance
If Utah would have won he wouldn’t have said a word either.
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by Michael Rueckert on Nov 29, 2009 1:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if, after BYU loses in their bowl game to a mediocre Pac-Ten team...
He’ll come out and call the Cougar fans classless for assaulting Coach Whitt’s wife and then egging their defensive coordinator’s car and verbally attacking that coach’s family?
Na!
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 1:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks max
i’m sad to see max hall go for the same reason i’m sad to see charlie weiss go. you could always rest easy knowing their teams could never amount to real contenders.
you may hate us, max, but we truly loved you for your high expectations but crash-and-burn results! thanks for the memories, buddy!
by korhashamo on Nov 29, 2009 2:07 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
That Jake Heaps sounds as delusional as Hall.
You know, claiming he’ll win national championships at Provo.
So, maybe all is not lost.
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 2:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
"sore winner"
more like sore loser. despite the result saturday he will always be a loser in my book
by utahmanami on Nov 29, 2009 3:08 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
What a baby. He has that much lack of class to come out after the game and say something like that? Is that even allowed in the “honor code” of things to say? This is exactly why I cannot stand BYU players, and fans. They all are like this. Not a one Utah fan that I have met (i’m sure there are some somewhere, every team has that “dumbass” fan or player) but come out and utter words like that or come out and say anything even close to that. BYU is supposed to be this high class, respectful university, especially their football team, and their big QB comes out after the game and says that? Wow. I really can’t believe he would say something like that. Did Brian Johnson, Sean Smith, Matt Asiata, or even way back when Alex Smith ever say anything of that low classness? No. I was going to pull for them in a bowl game, you know that whole “good for the conference” thing, but no way in hell am I going to pull for them now. I hope, whoever they play, beats the absolute crap out of them. I also hope that someone just lays Max Hall out in that game.
by scotmichie5 on Nov 29, 2009 10:06 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
It must really suck...
to know that your schools winningest QB is a big game choke artist and a little pussy who will talky shit when his career is over. The guy acts like a little baby and whines about how we are “classless” and then says how much he hates us, doesn’t respect us, and how they deserved to win.
Oh the irony.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 29, 2009 10:09 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Andrew George
is still running! What a bunch of sore losers on here lol. Maybe you’ll make Max feel bad for being called a sore-winner, but it beats being sore-losers like all you d bags. You can focus all your hate on Max (who holds a 2-1 record against the yoots). But the fact is, he is a winner! No turnovers and a GAME WINNING 25-yard pass in OT.
He went pretty far with his statement calling the entire university classless, but besides that, I agree 100%. I feel the same way and I’m just a fan. Imagine being treated poorly for a year after his worst game and seeing “honk if you’ve intercepted Max Hall” bumper stickers all over the place.
And I have no problem with him waiting until after the game to make his statement. First of all, he would have been crucified upside-down by Bronco and company for giving what would have been HUGE bulletin board material. It would have distracted his team and put immense pressure of himself from onlookers. He knew how bad he wanted it for his personal reasons, but he knew better than to speak out before the game. Call him a pussy all you guys want to, but the truth is that it shows how he has managed to WIN MORE GAMES THAN ANY QB IN MWC HISTORY. It isn’t just through spectacular numbers, but through a good head on his shoulders. One that you Utards will see over and over being carried off the field in his final game in LES!
by Howi on Nov 29, 2009 11:02 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Sure
No, we lost the game.
But he’s still a dick.
If you think that makes you cool, and you support him being a dick, great, go with that.
I mean, a guy should stay with his strengths, you know?
by MeanBobMean on Nov 29, 2009 12:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Howi.
Do you think Max Hall is the only player on either side of the rivalry to be treated badly?
Your own coaches are pissed on by your own fans. Hall was tormented more by BYU fans after last year’s loss than he was by Utes.
But I can see why you don’t have any problem waiting for him to attack until after the game. You were pretty cool in the game thread and now that your team has won, you seem like a total ass. So, it must be a BYU thing to put off the smack until the game is over.
That’s real pathetic.
Hall’s comments just show what an ass he truly he is. And who cares if he won more games than any QB in MWC history. What does he have to show for it? One title! One bowl win! ZERO BCS BIDS and that’s it.
Max Hall might have an inflated record, but there have been more quarterbacks in the conference’s history who accomplished more in their short careers (Alex Smith) than Hall could ever hope to do.
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hall had a poor game for a senior who was so highly touted
He was taking the light off his poor performance, making some smack talk because he really did not win that game as much as Utah gifted it to them.
Everyone in that stadium knew the better team lost, they can crow all they want, we’ll take the loss—but they aren’t good, not at all, and all their prancing about titles and greatness last two years have shown gooseeggs.
My opinion? Hall will never make it in the pros. He can’t make decisions, has tunnel vision, and panics. He has only a fair arm, after that many years and that many games he hasn’t improved that much.
It will be interesting to see if Wynn improves. He missed about 10-12 wide open guys who had burned the BYU secondary and he generally missed them by a fair piece. When you get that many wide open receivers and miss them? Something’s wrong. We can chalk this year up to Freshmn learning, and we can say “gee, if only he’d have started” but next year he better hit at least a few of those. I wasn’t impressed with much of the play calling either.
A lone fan at my house argued that the game never should have gone into overtime. It was my nephew, a staunch BYU fan who crowed all over (he was here last night), said a couple interesting things:
1) Max Hall sucks, 2) BYU should have lost handily, they were given the game, thy didn’t beat anyone.
I said “Hey, great game, defense deserves a nod for you guys, you won, congrats” and I even put my arm around his shoulder and cheered him when he sang his song (and ribbed him by singing “so stand up and shout, the cougars are out, that closet was too dark . . .”). But he was pretty adamant that he’s glad Hall is gone and that we handed them the game. As partisan as he is, I don’t think he was being polite.
I was happy to see a hard fought game—though it was sloppy at times for both teams. But he was off on Hall all night and said he can’t wait to see him gone, while praising the receivers and RBs and castigating their D backs.
I don’t know if he’s right or wrong about Utah “should have” won, because you have to control yourself to win, and Utah did not. Utah had their chances, but so what? They lost. But, it was interesting to see a kid who hates Utah with a passion trash Hall so blatantly. And it was fun to cheer with him when they did something good and see him light up.
Congrats Coogs, good luck in your bowl game. Your QB is a dick though.
by MeanBobMean on Nov 29, 2009 12:34 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm just proud we fought back.
I thought that showed a lot of character. When the game started falling out of our grasp (20-6), I expected BYU to roll. We manned up and nearly had one of the biggest comebacks in the rivalry.
It hurts losing in OT. But the fact it got to OT just shows how even these teams were.
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My problems with his rant:
1. It was a wussy cop-out:
I understand that Max had a LOT of anger bottled up after a horrible performance last year but give me a break, you wait until your playing career is over (minus his final bowl game) to dis on Utah and it’s fans?. Well played Max.
2. It was all about him
I’ll give him credit for saying it was a team effort (“it was our turn”) but that doesn’t excuse the fact the rant was that HE hated Utah fans, HE thought Utah is classless and that HE was wronged last year. Whoever was responsible for harassing him and his wife last year are dopes, no question but that doesn’t justify you calling out an entire fan base and calling them classless for the actions of a few losers.
3. He’s a senior, therefore he should have been an example:
Teams rely on their seniors not only on the field but for their conduct outside of football, Instead of doing the classy thing by shutting his mouth,give credit to the whole team for the win and simply saying we were the better team tonight, he ran his mouth and acted like a four year-old. When Brian Johnson won last year he didn’t say one word about BYU personally, when the Utes won in 04’ Alex Smith didn’t go out of his way to give BYU a parting shot before leaving to the NFL. quite the opposite in fact
On winning the Holy War and gong undefeated :
“This team was so prepared for this moment. [It was a] Total team effort”
See that?, focusing on the win and the teams effort instead of his personal emotions.
Any respect I previously had for Max Hall, I lost after his speech. You Max showed bad form and are the classless one.
by GambitUte on Nov 29, 2009 12:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Thomas S. Monson
Is a Utah Grad.
As was Gordon B. Hinckley.
David O. McKay was not only a grad, he was class president and Valedictorian.
So was Lavell Edwards.
Classless indeed Maxy Poo!
by MeanBobMean on Nov 29, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's just a moronic thing to say.
Do you think Brian Johnson spent the entire post-game after Utah beat BYU last year slamming the Cougars?
I love how the BYU fan above excuses away his saying it AFTER the game because it would’ve pissed Bronco off. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, and . . .
They’re bragging about how they “deserved” the win because “we played hard.” Yeah, everyone played hard.
They didn’t “deserve” anything. First, BYU has to drop the belief of entitlement, that’s why people wretch when they see them.
Second, they stunk. Utah handed them the game, they didn’t “beat” anyone.
Last year we acknowledged that TCU and Oregon State gave us games we easily could, even should, have lost.
Would that any Cougar was half that honest and decent.
Class indeed.
by MeanBobMean on Nov 29, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If they played harder than us...
They would have never let Utah back into the game like that. No team that plays really hard lets its rival back into a game after leading by 14-points entering the fourth AT HOME.
by JazzyUte on Nov 29, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait for the “Max Hall Hates Me” T-shirts to come out. Stay classy Max.
by big shot on Nov 29, 2009 5:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
all good points
and i would hate max too if i were a yoot fan. but as a byu fan i love him. i hated weddle, alex smith, brian johnson…… its nature to hate opposing players. it bothers me when i hear stories of players being buddies with guys from their rival. i like the hate and i like how this will fuel this rivalry even more.
max did little to WIN this game for byu. but he also didn’t lose it with turnovers like last year. give credit where credit is deserved.
alot of you tools are upset that max called you classless…yet you call him maxie pad and other things like that. hypocritical?
good job in the game, i thought utah had no shot going into the 4th quarter. byu fans will lay blame on the OC for conservative play…but your guys just battled back. it was a hell of a game and it will be remembered by another qb to te game winner for the cougs.
by Howi on Nov 29, 2009 5:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
by the way...
i might be a byu fan but im not a zoobie or whatever u call em. for me, religion has nothing to do with it and i’m the first to admit collie was a moron for saying what he said and anyone else who feels entitled at byu.
speaking of football alone, both squads have been outstanding in this decade….with the edge going to the red team for your bcs wins. i’m the first to admit that
but i never rooted for utah over pitt or utah over bama. because i hate utah.
by Howi on Nov 29, 2009 5:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

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