Debunking more BCS BS
Want to know what keeps the BCS from faltering? It's four simple letters: E-S-P-N.
You might think I'm exaggerating, but I'm really not. Unfortunately, the media sets the tone for this debate and when a good chunk are actually in favor of the current system, it's hard to establish any rebellion. The biggest outlet of them all, The World Wide Leader in Sports, might throw up a token pro-playoff article every once in a while, but when it comes down to it -- specifically now that ESPN owns the rights to the BCS -- they're firmly planted in the camp that houses the status quo.
That was made painfully obvious by a Heather Dinich blog post making the rounds today.
For starters, just who is Heather Dinich? Well you only have to look at her bio to see how woefully biased she really is.
Heather Dinich covered ACC and Big Ten football for five seasons before joining ESPN.com in November 2007. She's an Indiana grad but somehow her favorite day of the week is Saturday.
I'm not saying her opinion is automatically garbage because she's done nothing but cover BCS programs and attended a school currently in the BCS, but it does make her shilling for the BCS that more curious. Are we to take her seriously when it's clear she's nothing more than a mouthpiece for the current system?
But we won't let Dinich's past speak for her. That'd be too easy. Instead, how about we just let her column do that?
Because I think you'll find the bullshit stacked a mile high.
Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman nailed it: If non-BCS teams like Utah want to work their way into contention for the national championship, they've got to beat teams like Oklahoma, Texas and play other gauntlet-type schedules the BCS conferences have to face. One of the reasons Florida earned a No. 1 ranking is because it beat LSU, Georgia, Alabama, etc. Beating Weber State and Utah State won't cut it.
Again with the tired strength of schedule argument. I guess she's got to get the easiest one out of the way first, right?
Well for starters, Utah beat Alabama and did it by a wider margin than Florida. Weber State? Sure, they're nothing, but how's that game any less pathetic than a game against the Citadel? The Gators played them and hell, at least Weber State made the FCS playoffs last year, all the Bulldogs could manage to do was win four-games.
But I'm to believe that FCS game is more impressive than Utah's because Florida played and beat an LSU team that went 8-5?
Yeah right.
Forget that Utah went undefeated -- something Florida couldn't do. That doesn't matter, right? They played Georgia!
Well good. The Bulldogs were a great win for the Gators, but there is no game on the Utes schedule worse than Florida's loss -- at home -- to Ole Miss. Not Utah State, not San Diego State and certainly not Weber State. You know why, Heather? Because they won them all.
But let's look at this a bit further. What makes Florida's schedule that much better than Utah's? Is it because they play in the SEC? Maybe. But that doesn't explain how Tennessee, a team that sat tied with LSU in terms of conference losses, could get beat, at home, by Wyoming. Oh and did I mention those Cowboys only mustered one victory in their entire Mountain West schedule?
So Tennessee, who happened to win more SEC games than Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky and Mississippi State, can't even beat a team tied for the worst record in the Mountain West -- at home! Yeah, I'm really buying this strength of schedule argument, Heather.
I also wouldn't call Hawaii, Miami (maybe ten years ago), Tennessee (again, maybe ten years ago), Arkansas, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and the Citadel (those pesky FCS teams) a gauntlet-type schedule. That's 8 teams Utah probably would have easily defeated this season. We already established they can beat Alabama , so now we're at 9-wins and counting.
Does anyone really believe the Utes couldn't knock off Georgia, Ole Miss or Florida State?
Now we're looking at a record nearly identical or better than what Florida produced last year.
So what's the point you're trying to make, Heather?
Problem is, Utah's Mountain West Conference opponents include UNLV (5-7), New Mexico (4-8), Wyoming (4-8) and San Diego State (2-8). For the most part, the BCS conferences go deeper. The ACC had an NCAA-record 10 bowl eligible teams last year. When it comes to strength of schedule, that's where Utah gets hurt, despite its wins over three ranked teams in TCU, BYU and Alabama. It's not Utah's fault, nor is it necessarily fair, but that's the way it is. And that's the way it will stay, especially if members of Congress continue to talk in circles like they did Tuesday.
Do the BCS conferences really go deeper year in and year out?
The SEC had how many great teams last season outside of Florida? Alabama? Utah beat 'em. Ole Miss doesn't count, because they weren't great. LSU? Five losses. Auburn? Fell off the map? Tennessee? We established they lost to Wyoming (who she lists). Georgia? Ok, I'll give you that. But who else?
Like the Mountain West, it seems the SEC was pretty much three teams deep, maybe four if you want to count Ole Miss.
The bottom of the SEC isn't all that great. In fact, it's just as putrid as the Mountain West.
But isn't that how it always is? Every conference has its elites at the top and deadweight at the bottom. Sure, you can make the argument Florida is better than Utah, but it's all subjective and no one really knows, since they didn't actually play. Yet they don't want to admit that, because then it shows the largest flaw in the current BCS system: everything is built on speculation and nothing more.
Well as a Utah fan, I'm here to speculate Utah is better than Florida.
What makes my opinion any less than those who actually have an impact? The fact is, the only difference is that my opinion doesn't count, theirs does. That's it. They're not tossing out a better argument than me, they've just got power behind their argument. I do not.
The Utah representatives in this hearing kept pointing out the conference's 6-1 record against the Pac-10. Well, the Pac-10 was probably the fourth-best conference last year, behind the ACC. Get a 6-1 record against the Big 12 or the SEC and then you've got an argument. Heck, then you've got yourself a BCS conference.
Probably?
Well that's solid reasoning right there, right?
You're probably not getting it.
Who knows how good the Pac-Ten was. Who knows how good USC was. The fact is, we don't and college football shouldn't award its championship based on probability. That's ridiculous!
Let's ignore the fact Utah beat THREE teams from the major BCS conferences: Michigan (Big Ten), Oregon State (Pac Ten) and Alabama (SEC). That probably doesn't matter in her eyes, but then again, it probably should.
The point of this hearing was to help determine whether the BCS is really breaking any antitrust laws, and that question was debated and left unanswered. Just like the first hearing in the Senate, this one settled nothing. Utah had an outstanding undefeated season, a great football team, and a convincing win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Were they the best team in the country? We'll never know because they didn't play the schedule Florida did, nor did they play Florida.
Except it's not fact that Utah didn't play as tough as schedule Florida did. It's not fact because Florida and Utah didn't play the exact same teams from week one to week twelve.
That's why we should have a playoff.
You don't leave a national championship up to flawed perception. Just because you, Heather, feel Florida's schedule is far better than Utah's.
And why single Utah out for not playing Florida?
Last I checked, scheduling isn't one-sided here. Florida could schedule Utah, but let's see if you can get them to come to Salt Lake, Heather.
My guess, especially since Urban Meyer knows exactly what he's going up against, you can't.
Or are you suggesting it's only fair to have Utah travel across the country to take on a BCS team in their house, while that team doesn't have to come here?
Nice double standard. The Gators will always get the benefit of the doubt, even if they lose a game. Utah, though, has to defend 13-0 and no one dares question that one blemish on Florida's schedule.
Why?
Even if Utah had traveled and beat Florida, those telling us they need to do more would still say it's not good enough.
That's just the way it is.
Utah will start its 2009 season against Utah State, San Jose State, Oregon and Louisville. Only Oregon finished above .500 last year, and those opponents combined for a 24-25 record in 2008. Virginia Tech will play nonconference games against Alabama, Marshall, Nebraska and East Carolina, teams that combined for a 34-19 record. If both Utah and Virginia Tech finish undefeated this fall, the Hokies would have earned their edge, just like Florida did.
Does anyone else see the hypocrisy in this argument? Heather spends the entire article suggesting BCS teams, as a whole, are deeper than non-BCS teams and then does a complete 180 to prop up her point.
If the BCS is so great, then Utah's two games against Oregon and Louisville should trump Virginia Tech's games against East Carolina and Marshall (what the hell has Marshall done lately?). And at worst, the only edge Tech has is their game against Nebraska, since Oregon and Alabama are both going into this season rated rather high.
So is that schedule really any better than Utah's? Maybe a tad, but not by much.
Virginia Tech also only has two games against teams that finished last season in the top-25 (Alabama, Georgia Tech). Utah has 3 (Oregon, TCU and BYU).
Of course, the biggest difference here is that Florida did not go undefeated. Had they done that, then this debate becomes more cloudy. But they didn't and if Virginia Tech -- with that schedule -- loses one game, they're not playing for the title.
So she was saying...
Regardless of what you think about the system, the bottom line is strength of schedule, and the teams that finish atop the final BCS standings have it.
Regardless of what you think, Heather, that's not how you decide a champion.
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It’s all about the money for these guys…..no matter what the big suits argue, they can ‘t hide the fact that in the end it’s all about the huge contracts. How many more Utah’s, Auburns and screwed over Big 12 teams will it take to convince them that the B.C.S is BS?.
by GambitUte on Jul 7, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So true
Great breakdown on this. I read her blog entry and probably was dumber after reading it. Here schedule argument is weak since Florida plays the Citadel, Texas Tech played two FCS schools, Texas plays Arkansas State, UTEP, and Rice.
Plus who cares if the ACC had 10 bowl teams they beat up non-conference schedules and go 4-0 and then all they have to do is go 2-6 in league play and they go bowling!!
It is a joke such as is her blog entry. The only people from ESPN who believe the MWC should be in the BCS is Ivan Maisel and Beano Cook who routinely mention it in their podcast.
by Jeremy Mauss on Jul 7, 2009 10:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
She was being intellectually dishonest from the get-go
One of the reasons Florida earned a No. 1 ranking is because it beat LSU, Georgia, Alabama, etc. Beating Weber State and Utah State won’t cut it.
When comparing strength of schedule, it make no sense to make the apples to oranges comparison of Florida’s three best victories against Utah’s two weakest opponents.
In the entire blog entry she does not mention Florida’s loss once—no reference to either Utah or Florida’s record. Also, notice how she switches conference’s entirely when it serves her purposes. Yup, the ACC did have ten bowl eligible teams, and none of them were in the national title discussion because they all had at least four losses. What does that have to do with Florida who plays in the SEC? It’s as if to defend the strength of the MWC, I suddenly mentioned that the WAC had six bowl eligible teams last year.
The Utah representatives in this hearing kept pointing out the conference’s 6-1 record against the Pac-10. Well, the Pac-10 was probably the fourth-best conference last year, behind the ACC. Get a 6-1 record against the Big 12 or the SEC and then you’ve got an argument. Heck, then you’ve got yourself a BCS conference.
The MWC went 2-0 last year against the SEC. Thanks for your endorsement, Heather!
by Ute in DC on Jul 7, 2009 10:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else here actually watch the hearing?
The most significant result of this hearing for most college football fans was some jovial comments between Young and Perlman that suggest a game between the two could be on the horizon. They both said they would suggest it to their athletic directors. Utah has open dates in 2010 and 2011 and after 2014. Nebraska for 2011 and beyond. Can a series be arranged for a pair of games in 2011 and 2014?
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I don’t think the case for anti-trust was proved. I would argue the fact that the non-privileged conferences continue to make the argument stronger on the field is proof that the BCS increases the competitiveness for all involved. The BCS gave Utah in 2008 an opportunity to exhibit their talent that was not afforded to BYU in 1984. BYU may have a national title, but most would agree Utah has more respect.
If anything the BCS has fostered unbridled success beyond the vision it originally set out to accomplish leading to its own present obsolescence.
More points were made in the argument that our academic institutions should set their aim for ideals higher than those mandated by law, and the BCS does not represent the optimistic mandates of our university system in a way that promotes their overall mission.
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July 4th [I] received this e-mail:
Ben,
Wanted to let you know that Chancellor Perlman received your e-mail. Folks are away for the holiday, but we will respond shortly. Hope you are having a good Fourth.
Bill
[Bill Hancock, Administrator
Bowl Championship Series]
I am optimistic, but technically a “cease and desist order” IS a response.
by utesfan100 on Jul 7, 2009 10:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Not the Sharpest . . . .
Is she? What a crock of crapola. You might, Heather, read something about the history of college football before posting such biased tripe.
First, teams like Utah don’t play 7-8 games at home like Florida does. And Florida’s ultra scary OOC schedule this year includes no one imposing—Utah will play better, and yes that includes an overwrought FSU team straining to get out of medicority and collapsing under the weight of their indiscretions. Second, Florida has not played an out of conference game outside the state of Florida in 18 years. Read that again: 18 years. What unvarnished crap.
Now, perhaps homer queen, stacked “buy wins” schedules equates to Heather as being “a powerghouse” but not to me. The “great and glorious” football powerhouses built their programs on home schedules, winning against as many or more patsies as tough teams, and as anyone who knows anything about college ball can tell you: Buying players and stacking depth just to keep it away from other teams for decades before those practices were slowed by the NCAA. That’s the reality of football’s glorious past. So, her argument becomes:
“Well, the glory of the past was built on home schedules and really unsportsmanlike behavior, but you guys should have been that way to earn my respect.”
Utah didn’t lose at home to anyone, and yes TCU and OSU were as tough as Mississippi (especially as everyone in CF said last year was a down one for the SEC, correct?).
The Pac-10 fourth best? No, Utah was hurt by the fact that many voters never even saw them play. Bias is ugly, and you miss are ignorant.
by MeanBobMean on Jul 8, 2009 9:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Number of teams that finished in the BCS top 25 in the past 4 years on each team's schedule
Average: 4.7
9: Baylor, Syracuse
8: Auburn, Cincinnati, FSU, Georgia, Miami (FL), Maryland, Oklahoma, Purdue, South Florida, Stanford, Washington, WSU
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5: Florida, Fresno State, Ohio State, Penn State, Utah State …
4: BYU, TCU, Utah …
2: Boise State, East Carolina, Hawaii, Tulsa …
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1: Akron, Ball State, Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Kent State, Middle Tennessee State, SMU
by utesfan100 on Jul 8, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post, Jazzy
I’m not even from Utah, and I think it’s an outrage. They need to reorganize the whole damn thing. Schedules, actual playoffs and probably even the divisions themselves. Aferall, it’s the divisions that are the real problem, isn’t it?
by rightnasty on Jul 8, 2009 12:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Interconference games
That were really menaingful and great matchups have given way to the BCS “win at all costs” scheduling.
The PAC-10 has the toughest OOC schedule, only Alabama that I know of in the SEC makes an effort to schedule anyone tough early on regularly.
Something has to change, it’s a joke.
by MeanBobMean on Jul 8, 2009 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite simply
if it’s all about SoS, teams not in the Big 6 might as well stop playing now, because no one out there will give them credit for their wins. And beating Vandy or Mississippi State tops beating Wyoming simply because they have the advantage of being a bottom dweller in the SEC and not the MWC.
SoS of OoC games should be much more important.
And why in the world did she turn to Virginia Tech to prove her final point? I’m pretty sure the Utes could go beat 4 mid-level Big 6 teams (like Oregon) and still get passed over because they had the nerves to schedule a bad team like Wyoming or something.
Seriously, the SoS argument is the weakest thing ever… teams can’t really control who’s in their conference. More emphasis needs to be placed on the part of the schedule they can actually control… the OoC part of it. I mean, I don’t think Kansas State (to pick a team) deserves much consideration for having an OoC schedule of UMass, @ Louisiana-Lafayette, @ UCLA (might be a good team) and Tennessee Tech. Sure, they’ve got a tougher in-conference schedule than the Utes (arguably… even without having to play Texas), but the fact of the matter is that they have to play those teams no matter what. If the Utes had to play that schedule, they would. Sadly, they’re not even given the option. And if they do, they’d end up playing all 4 OoC games on the road, which is not only extremely difficult, but also a huge blow to the fanbase when they only get to see 4 home games then.
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by UtesFan89 on Jul 9, 2009 9:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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