#18 Utah (2-0) @ Oregon (1-1)
For Utah, that's not entirely a bad thing. We didn't expect the Utes to come out of the gates looking like the perfect 2008 squad. There was just too much turnover on the offensive side of the ball to justify extremely high expectations. But I'm not sure we expected it to be this bad.
Yes, they're undefeated and hold the nation's longest winning streak, but it feels like the other shoe is about to drop on the season. It's similar to the position Utah found themselves in entering the TCU game in 2005. They weren't dreadful in their first two games (victories over Arizona & Utah State), but they certainly weren't performing at the level many expected they needed to if they were going to win another Mountain West title.
What we saw Saturday against San Jose State is not championship football. The Utes looked abysmal throughout much of the game and a repeat performance, even against a slumping Oregon team, will doom them to their first loss since the 2007 season. Luckily for them, their mistakes don't seem to be fatal and can be corrected before Saturday's big game. But we'll get to that in a bit.
For Oregon, this is an entirely different situation than most fans expected heading into the season. The Ducks were supposed to contend for a Pac-Ten title and right now, it's unclear if they'll even finish with a winning record. After an ugly opening season loss to Boise State, Oregon did rebound against Purdue, but it was - much like Utah's victory over the Spartans - hollow in the sense they did not look all that good.
That's bad news because Utah should be better than Purdue. Of course, I expect the Ducks to be better than the Spartans. This creates a paradox of sorts here because neither team has proven on the football field they're capable of beating the other. Which means we enter this game with Oregon being only a slight favorite and that's because the game is on their turf. But will it be enough?
That is what I believe will be the key to the game for the Utes. Whether or not they can walk into a tough environment and produce enough to build on their sixteen-game winning streak and maybe set the tone for the rest of the season. Right now, after what I saw against San Jose State, I'm not so sure.
Of course, I don't want to put too much weight in Saturday's game. The Utes had a similar performance last year on the road against a New Mexico team that was basically just as bad as the Spartans. It was a putrid offensive performance then that nearly did in their perfect season. They also had a huge game the week after against TCU and it isn't hard to concede they probably overlooked the slumping Lobos a bit in anticipation of that game. It nearly cost them, they should have learned from it, but this is a new batch of players and some new coaches, so I guess it's not hard to see that mistake repeating again this season.
Now that's just one potential answer to the question why Utah looked down right sorry Saturday. Maybe they aren't good and maybe they'll get their clocks cleaned against the Ducks. But this is the position I thought we'd be in, except we know they're not horribly bad to the point where an Oregon win is inevitable. We knew Utah State and San Jose State would not offer up much in terms of a measuring stick and they haven't. Oregon will be the true test to whether this Utah team can contend with TCU and BYU for the championship or fall back a bit to the middle of the pack.
Even then, with how poor the Ducks have looked the last two weeks, we still might not fully understand where this team stands until later in the season. But if Utah can continue winning - even if it's ugly - none of that matters. They won ugly much of last year and it often left us questioning whether they were capable of winning a conference championship. They were. On the flip side, BYU looked mighty impressive in their first few weeks of the season and then fizzed out quickly - losing to TCU, Utah and Arizona.
I don't know if 2009 will play out the same way (it probably won't), but I can hope that San Jose State was just a fluke game where the Utes struggled because they overlooked their opponent. There are reasons for me to believe this is the case because, as mentioned earlier, I didn't see anything fatal with their struggles. The offense looked good for 70-percent of the time, but it was that 30-percent, generally finishing drives, that ultimately hurt them. The defense also played well, especially against the run. Then again, it could've just been the opponent. This week's opponent, Oregon, does have some issues that could be fatal, however.
For starters, the Ducks defense looks worse than anything Utah might see the entire season. Granted, Purdue has always established great offenses under Joe Tiller (and now Danny Hope), but Oregon was abused all night by the Boilermaker offense and I've got to think the Utes can exploit those same issues Saturday.
Because of their lackluster run defense, expect something similar to what we saw against San Jose State, but maybe with a bit more Eddie Wide and Sausan Shakerin. This again will take some pressure off Terrance Cain and set possibly an early tone where turnovers aren't killing drives (though it should be noted Cain did not cause any of the turnovers in Utah's win Saturday).
On the other side of the ball, Oregon's offense looked good, but I wouldn't say great. Jeremiah Masoli was 11 of 21 for 163 yards, which isn't awful and he did run the ball fairly well - leading the team with 84-yards. But this is Purdue we're talking about and I'm not sure if they've ever been known for their defenses. I mean, this is the same team that found itself in a shootout against Toledo in week one. The Rockets might have knocked off Colorado, but I think that's a bit more of an indictment on the Buffs than it is on anything else.
Utah's defense should give the Ducks a far better game than Purdue and the offense, though still a bit wet behind the ears, probably won't have too much issue running the ball. That means Cain's ability to find receivers and Utah's need to finish drives will dictate how this game goes.
Right now, though, I really don't know what to expect. I hope for a Utah victory and I think they can win, but it's hard to tell if their issues from Saturday were really a one-time thing or a growing trend. I guess we'll find out.
Utah wins if...The defense plays to its potential and the offense does not turn the ball over and they finish drives. They do that and victory is likely. They don't and we're going to be tasting defeat for the first time in a long, long time.
Oregon wins if...They force Utah into too many turnovers, stall drives and stuff the run. I don't know how good the Ducks are, but I've got to think they're better than their performances the last two weeks. If they are, they should win this game.
What will happen...I felt really good about this game around 8:40 Saturday night, shortly after the Utes went up 7-0 on the Spartans. I'm now not sure. In fact, I think this has loss written all over it. The Utes aren't playing well. It's on the road and Oregon is still trying to find an identity. They are due for a good game and so are the Utes. Except I don't think it'll come this week for Utah. They'll get better as the season progresses, but that will take more than three games. Oregon wins 31-21.
I hate picking against the Utes and I pray I'm wrong, but I don't have a good feeling. Not after Saturday's snooze fest.
What are your predictions for the game?
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Two numbers i’ll take from last weeks game..34 and 1..First number is pass attempts from San Jose State Qb. Second number is the number of times we sacked him. For a team that had no run game whatsoever and knowing that they would continue to drop back for passes that is unacceptable for this defense to have just 1 sack. I know we pressured him numerous times, but we got to get to QB’s and cause turnovers, like we did so well in the sugar bowl. Some of it is on the coaching(sending a blitz too late), some of it is players(d-line has to step up) . This is one of the main things i’ll look for in the games vs. Oregon. Hopefully we go through a tough week of practices and improve in that area. Because we didn’t get it done last week.
It's a winnable game
For either team.
Who shows up? That’s who’s going to win. That said, so far this season I think our offense outshines theirs. If they leave us on the field like they did Purdue, I like our chances.
Purdue...
is an enigma in my opinion. We were much better against a BSU offense that should be more prolific. Purdue scored 52 and 36 against Toledo and Oregon respectively. I know it’s easy to poo poo Toledo but I got a chance to watch them and they got athletes all over the field. I honestly think that Purdue offense with Bolden, Elliot, Adams and bevy of tall, physical receivers is going to light it up this year on offense. They are big and physical in the trenches. One of their redshirt DT will be in the NFL and their two ends are good. Their linebacking corp was suppose to be suspect but they were plugging holes.
We got manhandled by their big offensive line. Our defensive strategy is predicated on lighter, quicker but strong linemen, sorta trying to replicate what you guys produced last year on the dline (tell me if I’m wrong here). I don’t think we matched up on the dline as well against Purdue’s oline.
All in all, Purdue’s offense was more difficult for us than BSU. I am hoping we match up better against you guys. We have a lot of speed but we won’t manhandle anyone. Our DT are light, our DE are light, our SAM backer is light and our free safety is light…we’re pretty much light across the board.
I said at the beginning that Oregon did not scare me as much as TCU and BYU.
That said, I did not think Utah would look as bad as we have. If Utah plays up to their potential we should win this game by 2 TDs. If we play the way we’ve been playing we’ll lose by 2 TDs, or worse.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
As an Oregon fan living in Utah, I have nothing but respect for the Utes, Kyle W., and the program they continue to build in Salt Lake. I get behind this team every time they play. Especially when they play the TDS.
About the 19th: I remember listening to Hans Olsen predict a Utah win in this game back in July. At the time I thought he was still a little too drunk on the sugar bowl kool-aid to be making any pre-season predictions. Of course, the same is definitely true for all Oregon fans who thought we would see the Ducks contend for the Pac-10 title this year. Now, two games into this season, I think ‘ol Hans is right. Ute fans shouldn’t read too much into their team’s performance thus far. They are too well coached. Coach Witt. will have his team ready for this game.
Going into Autzen used to mean something… apparently Purdue doesn’t think so. Their offense rang up 36 on us, and we needed 14 points from our defense to avoid what would have been a devastating loss.
Bottom line: The Utes defense is too talented, fast and well coached to allow Oregon’s dismal offense to get rolling. Oregon has too many young players on both lines. A very young and inexperienced offensive line has been the bane of what once was a potent offense.
Utes: 31
Oregon: 24
Thanks for the post.
I do think the defense is Utah’s biggest strength and if they can cut down on the turnovers, I don’t think they lose.
Hopefully Utah just overlooked SJSU and come out rolling against the Ducks. They’ve won now nine-straight road games and haven’t lost to a BCS team since the opening loss to Oregon State in 2007.
Oregon
Notorisously slow starter though. Improved dramaticzlly from weeks 1 to week 2.
Is this the game they gel?
I don't mind when you pick against Utah.
I still remember how often you did last year … and Utah won them all.
Whoa now...
I think I picked against Utah ONCE and that was against Michigan. In fact, I’m sure of it.
http://www.blocku.com/2008/8/25/601362/utah-0-0-michigan-0-0
http://www.blocku.com/2008/9/2/606243/unlv-1-0-22-utah-1-0
http://www.blocku.com/2008/9/9/610797/22-utah-utah-state
http://www.blocku.com/2008/9/15/615284/20-utah-air-force
http://www.blocku.com/2008/9/24/621093/weber-state-17-utah
http://www.blocku.com/2008/9/29/624925/oregon-state-15-utah
http://www.blocku.com/2008/10/7/630668/13-utah-6-0-wyoming-2-4
http://www.blocku.com/2008/11/16/663138/byu-utah-one-victory-away
I didn’t predict the CSU, UNM, TCU and Sugar Bowl scores, so I couldn’t add those.
But yeah, I only picked against Utah once!
Yeah...
But what would those TCU and Sugar Bowl scores have been if you had? I remember a fair amount of scepticism in both cases.
How often did Utah exceed your cautious expectations [and mine as well ;) ]?
if utah plays without the turnovers and many penalties
utah should win the game. i know our defense is better than purdue’s and they lost by only 2 points. we should only allow 21 points. i believe our offenes will get two td passes from cain and will get two rushing td’s. final score utah 28 oregon 21. so far this year fcs teams are 4-4 over fbs teams. maryland needed overtime to beat james madison. every non bcs confernece has at least one win vs bcs teams. the mwc leads the way with three. the mac and wac have two. conference usa has one and the sunbelt has one. i see potentially four more wins this week. utah over oregon byu over fsu. akron over indiana. indiana barely hanged on to their win at home with western michigan. now they have to goto akron’s new football field. my special pick is smu over washington state. wsu might be the worst bcs team in history. they got waxed by a so so hawaii team that only won by 5 points over a fcs school the week before. what is funny is smu is now coached by the former hawaii coach june jones. smu did beat a decent uab team. i’ll also predict the most wins by non bcs teams over bcs teams. last year i think there was 17. i expect more this year. ramble on!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 14, 2009 10:37 PM MDT reply actions
Beware of underestimating our win against Purdue,
that was a very good football team and I know that time will vindicate that statement. They are bowl bound, trust me on this. If you want to use transitive properties, let me ask you: if logic dictates that you will hold us to 21 because your defense is better than Purdue’s, than why will you score 28 on a defense better than SJSU’s? Both of our programs are coming off of perceived unimpressive victories. I would not put much stock in our previous games.
For one, teams match up differently. Secondly, teams improve early in the season. Lastly, we don’t know how good or bad Purdue and SJSU. The latter has played BCS schools well in their OOC. So, I am not looking at your game so much either.
It's all speculative.
No one knows what to expect. Like I said in my preview, this game is a paradox of sorts because we’re not entirely sure what to expect.
Utah should be better than Purdue, but Oregon is better than SJSU. Yet both our teams struggled last week.
If either demolished their opponents, it would give us an idea of what to expect. Except that wasn’t the case.
Basically, we can only suggest what MIGHT happen. Who knows.
I think
You guys picked up your game a ton and winning will pull them together in a way that is inestimable.
I think the teams are more evenly matched than anyone suspects, talent wise, and that whomever can get their heads on straight will have a huge advantage. Last year Utah had a mental edge in games that was palpable and this year’s Oregon team has not shown that yet. Perhaps the win will provide that?
One thing I’d say, Kelly has not yet hit his stride as a coach, in my opinion. If he struggles, Oregon will flounder, if it has simply taken a couple games to get going, than they should be better this game and will improve all season.
Oregon Defense
This duck defense lived off of turnovers in the game vs.Purdue. If they didn’t get the 2 defensive scores that game might not have gone in their favor. Avoiding turnovers might be a bigger key for the Utes offense than anything else.
Early trash talk by Oregon Fan
found this vid floating around on youtube…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEdRparzsXk
Not very good.
If you’re going to do a smack video, at least make it good.
Poor Duck fans can do better than that.
Indeed.
But WTIII isn’t going anywhere.
And number 2 may be back.

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