Utes lose for first time since 2007 in ugly game
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 5:10 PM MDT
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I'm not really in the mood to talk about this game. It was a bad loss. I don't care if the Ducks are from the Pac-Ten or if the game was on the road. The way Oregon played leaves no excuses for a Utes defeat.
We'll get into that this week. We'll get into why this game showed us Utah's problems and why this season could be wrought with struggle.
Hats off to the Ducks for not wilting when it looked like the Utes were going to take control of the game. Likewise, I'm glad Utah didn't give up when they fell behind 28-10. To come back and take the game into the fourth quarter shows that this team does have resolve and that's something they'll need if they're going to have a respectable 2009 season.
Unfortunately, this loss does two things. It knocks Utah out of the top-25 and ends their nation-leading winning streak.
Hopefully they start a new one next Saturday against Louisville.
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Bringing back bad memories....
TCU 2005.
As the old saying goes “you cant win em’ all” but like that loss against TCU, this one tastes bad cause it’s a game the Utes should have won. I tip my hat to the Oregon defense for not breaking but there are no excuses! our offense was horrible. I really, REALLY hope the Utes learn from this loss and execute better at home against Louisville.
Go Utes!
by GambitUte on Sep 19, 2009 5:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The Utes will need to execute better against Louisville.
They’re not much worse than Oregon and I don’t expect them to give and give like the Ducks did tonight.
This game was just really depressing because it’s one the Utes should not have lost. At least in 2005, they played a good game for the most part. Tonight, they played horrible for most of it and just good enough in the 3rd to make it a game.
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugly
Was that Utah playing or a MWC bottom feeder?? that’s how bad it looked for the utes in the 1st half. That didn’t look like the team I know and love..I know the weather had something to do with it, but still, no excuses. Both teams had to deal with the weather.
Our play calling was pretty bad, we kept going for long shots down the field when we should have been focusing on moving the ball. I call them wasted downs and we wasted a lot of downs. How many times did we see 3rd and long because of that? You get in that situation and u are asking for Cain to make a play and it was too much for him to handle in those conditions. So the coaching staff should get a lot of heat for this one.
by utahmanami on Sep 19, 2009 5:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get tossing it down field.
Cain has just not been able to get it done in that regard. It’s like they expect him to just figure it out and it wasn’t happening.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence Utah moved the ball best when they went to the short passes.
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oregon Ds was just that good IMHO
We had what, ten deflected passes in the first half alone…
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by skywaker9 on Sep 19, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Utah
That was a lot of fun. Your team, your fans all have a lot to be proud of.
Hope to see you down the road, now GO 11-1!
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by skywaker9 on Sep 19, 2009 6:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, but no.
It was not a lot of fun. Our offense looked abysmal and we couldn’t sustain a drive at all.
Had the Ducks not coughed up the ball four-times, it’s a blowout and certainly NOT the effort we would have liked. Just because the Utes lost by 7 doesn’t mean we really played well enough.
It sucked.
Because I think had we found just enough firepower on offense, we’re celebrating the ugly win and not you.
But it’s good for your program and I hope the Ducks have a good season.
Utah? Well, right now it’s still unclear where this team is at the moment.
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oregon is the master at winning ugly
Seriously, we have won more ugly games in the past ten years than most have their entire history.
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by skywaker9 on Sep 19, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're right there with you.
All you have to do is re-watch the Utah-Oregon St. game from last year.
Ugly wins I can tolerate. Ugly losses? No. When you realize you could have won, it makes it intolerable unless it’s some amazing effort and both teams played ridiculously good as opposed to just ridiculous.
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 7:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a loss...
Jazzy hit the nail on the head, why in the name of hades did the Utes keep taking long shots down field. I know K-Whitt knows a lot more about football than me but c’mon. watching Cain botch one third down after another was frustrating.
I REALLY hate to say this but ultimately Terrence Cain costed us the game with that last pick., I know he thinks he saw something open, but he held on to the ball a split-second too long and…yeah. I don’t get it, we had plenty of time, why didn’t we take our time with short passes and hard running…… I just can’t get the bad taste out of my mouth.
by GambitUte on Sep 19, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ya and not just that…seemed like the OC kept Matt in the game but was calling pass plays to keep him from hurting his shoulder worse? Stupid. Should have put stowers in. The OC is to blame for the loss.
by cereal2day on Sep 19, 2009 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
BYU is pissing away their BCS bid. Down 37-14 to FSU. WOW.
That loss is even worse than ours!
THANK YOU BYU!
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 7:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Much worse than yours
At home to a team that barely beat Jacksonville State last weekend.
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by skywaker9 on Sep 19, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just keep it up, FSU.
I hate BYU.
Fuck ’em.
Piss on ’em.
:D
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's up with Offensive Coordinator??
The first half sucked… and in my opinion two of those td’s were just right time right place…not because of a great O line performance today. and what’s up with him always calling plays with #4 who seems like he’s faking an injury cause he was sucking so bad last game….and never putting in guys standing on the side like Stowers…ready to kick some a**…? seriously reminds me of Sloan never playing all these guys on the bench who used to leave Utah and become stars once a coach gave them play time. Are we forgetting we are a team ? How about playing the team instead of relying on one guy all the time. What’s wrong with this OC?
by cereal2day on Sep 19, 2009 7:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
And BYU loses!
Some good came out of this day.
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 8:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
USC lost too. Never bad.
Unfortunately, now Boise State will probably be in the top-7 or so.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 19, 2009 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
BYU getting hammered and seeing the look on those fans faces made me feel a lot better
by utahmanami on Sep 19, 2009 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen!
Having to hear Zoobs talk possible NC game was quite a treat. These same fans looking dumbfounded was classic.
Regarding the Utes, yeah, it’s frustrating, seems like every 3rd down was a 3rd and long. There really was no rhythm, but hey, all is not lost. It was a non-conference game, we will learn from this and come back harder next week.
I don’t think any of us expected a perfect season (AGAIN!) and it’s especially painful because maybe we’ve forgotten what a loss feels like.
Before this loss, the Utes had only lost one game in a 24 month period, starting after the debacle in UNLV! That’s quite a streak. We’ve been spoiled as fans. We gotta give it up to our Utes! WE WILL BOUNCE BACK!
by Binjanjino on Sep 20, 2009 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Oregon game will only be a disaster if we don't learn from it.
And from what I’ve seem from the coaches, they rarely don’t learn from a loss.
We were going to lose sometime. We all knew the Utes weren’t going 13-0 this season. Oregon was a game many of us had penciled in as a loss at the start and what do you know, it happened.
Sure, the Ducks might not be as good as we had hoped. Sure, we should have won. Sure, we looked sloppy.
But generally, you do in losses. That’s why you lose. We’re just not used to that feeling right now…
by JazzyUte on Sep 20, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offense stunk it up
No reason to lose that game. They were predictable, receivers dropped balls, they got to Cain too often, owned our running game, and Cain started ot throw desperately, even when we had plenty of time left.
No reason to have lost that game.
by MeanBobMean on Sep 19, 2009 9:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Big concerns...
1) Offensive play calling was horrible. The decision to go for it at the end of the first half was a bad one, and the play call was even worse.
2) Cain needs to learn how to throw the ball. He looked pretty bad in that regard today. I couldn’t have been the only one to have seen it either. So why were there numerous play calls to throw the ball down the field?
3) The defensive secondary. They weren’t tested much today, but I still worry about them.
4) Tackling. I think the defensive front seven will be good, however they missed some very easy tackles. The one tackle Eliapo missed was huge.
5) Penalties. Just too many at key points of the game. Way too many mental mistakes.
6) Special teams. The punt/coverage game looks bad. It will cost the Utes in close games where field position will be a key factor.
7) Running Game. I hope Asiata returns to how he looked the first two weeks. If he runs tentative, like it looked like he did today, the Utes are in trouble. Anyone have an update on Shak and his wrist injury?
8) Offensive line. I think this could turn around and be a strength, but I thought they lost the battle at the line to the Oregon D-line pretty bad today.
9) Damn that’s a lot of concerns.
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by slc ranger on Sep 19, 2009 9:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Lots of concerns, but most are correctable.
We’ve got to remember Schramm is new at this. He’s going to make mistakes.
1. I have no problem going for it at the end of the half. Utah has had questionable kicking and three points there probably doesn’t change the outcome of the game. However, had they scored a touchdown, you it’s a completely different game.
2. Cain does need to learn to throw the ball. He didn’t look good, but to be fair, may of the receivers weren’t open and there were dropped passes (not his fault). But yes, his deep ball is horrible.
3. Secondary wasn’t bad. We stepped up and got two picks and though there were a couple big plays, I think they played better than expected.
5. Penalties really got the best of us, especially when things started slipping in the second half. That is expected. When you’re losing by two-scores, you generally start to panic and Utah did.
6. Special teams were horrible. The worst I’ve seen in a long, long time.
7. Running game was non-existent. I think Asiata’s injury played a role, though.
8. Offensive line wasn’t bad. They had some difficulty creating holes, but they provided great protection for Cain.
9. Yes, but the Utes still only lost by seven in a hostile environment and those mistakes will fade the more experienced this team gets.
It could be worse, though. We could have lost, at home, by a score of 54-28 to a BCS team that struggled to beat an FCS team the week before…
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm done...
comparing my Utes to the TDS. Quite frankly, this program is now beyond that.
Your points are valid, but I disagree with a couple of them. I don’t like going for it at the end of the half. That is a panic move too early in the game. There is a questionable kicking game, but not on a 20 yard FG. That was an easy 3. It may not have changed the outcome, but unless Asiata is 100%, I don’t go for it there.
The secondary wasn’t tested much. Oregon kept the ball on the ground nearly the entire second half. I still worry about our new cover corners out on an island by themselves. These guys aren’t Smith and McCain.
Asiata’s injury (and Shak’s for that matter) were a huge part of the running game faltering. That’s my concern. I hope these aren’t the kind of injuries that are going to linger around all year.
I disagree about the O-line. I didn’t think they looked very good today.
A loss is a loss. It hurts. It wasn’t as bad as it could have been, but it certainly didn’t turn out as well as it could have either. Hopefully they learn from it and move on to have another solid season. I think they can, just hope they will.
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by slc ranger on Sep 19, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I think BYU is always game.
You can’t not compare Utah to their rival. Every program does it. I’m sure Florida fans do it with Florida State/Miami/Georgia. Certainly Texas does it with Oklahoma. When you’re so invested in the rivalry, it’s something you do.
When they lose, I feel better, even if Utah lost, as well. Maybe it makes me a BYU-hater, but it’s just what it is.
As for your points, I don’t look at going for it as a panic move. It’s three points. The Utes were down 21-7 at the time. Does 21-10 really change the dynamics of the game? No .
But had they scored a touchdown, they’re only down a TD heading into the half and it’s a completely different game. Sure, you should always want to take the points, but three there really doesn’t do anything. And in the end, it didn’t matter. Had they made it, the Utes lose anyway.
But let’s say they kick the FG and then lose by 4. I bet we’re sitting here saying we should’ve gone for the TD there.
We’ll find out what this team is made of Saturday. A win over Louisville (who looks improved this season over the last two years), could mean some good things.
If we lose that game, then I’ll start to really worry.
by JazzyUte on Sep 19, 2009 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least utah competed, byu was a disaster!
what happened with all those slant routes we used to have in the playbook. they worked great last year. (i know it’s not the same roster but a slant route is not difficult pass play to complete when your supposedly running a spread offense) i blame the coaches for this loss. it’s obvious cain can not throw the long ball. whittingham needs to roll t. cain out of the pocket so his passes won’t get blocked and throw 5 to 15 yard routes. it’s as easy as that. i said from the beginning of the year the utes would win 10 games. i might lower it to nine games because tcu is a definite loss. air force always gives us trouble. i’ll be patient with t. cain b/c it’s really only his third start and he will get better but the coaches have to have a better game plan. peace out. ramble on!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 20, 2009 12:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
MWC BCS hopes fall on TCU
I still say a 1 loss MWC team would make the top 12, but this week makes it impossible for a 1 loss MWC team to catch and pass an undefeated Boise State.
I called in March that a 1 loss TCU would win a BCS bowl. I am sticking to it.
BYU should still be in the top 25, or close to it in the ORV. We will get votes and could be back in with two wins.
Utah has serious issues on offense that will need to be fixed before we get into serious MWC play. We should still be expected to win against Louisville. I think we are up for 2 MWC losses to Air Force, TCU or BYU and a 9-3 record. Anyone up for the Poinsettia Bowl? At least we still have that winning streak. How long is our home winning streak?
by utesfan100 on Sep 20, 2009 7:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd take the Poinsettia Bowl.
Utah hasn’t lost at home in 12 games (Air Force, 2007).
I think 9-3 is possible. But I do expect this team to grow as the season goes along. If we get by AFA with a win, I see us entering the TCU game ranked and with only one loss. That game will be for the conference championship.
by JazzyUte on Sep 20, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all doom and gloom
I am sure if Matt Asiata were to play Utah would have won. Plus the comeback was very nice by Cain just wonder why the Utes tried a downfield pass so early in the downs. This game is just an abiration and they will bounce back and contend for the conference title and end the season in the top 25.
by Jeremy Mauss on Sep 20, 2009 1:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
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