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Utes exposed in ugly, lopsided home loss

SALT LAKE CITY UT - NOVEMBER 6: Jereme Brooks #85 of the Utah Utes is hit by Tanner Brock #35 of the TCU Horned Frogs during the first half of an NCAA football game November 6 2010 at Rice-Eccles Stadium in Salt Lake City Utah. (Photo by George Frey/Getty Images)

I'm emotionally exhausted right now. I'm working on two hours of sleep and have been up since four in the morning. My voice is gone, I'm dehydrated and extremely disappointed in my Utes' performance today. 

So I'm not going to say a lot. I can't say a lot. If I do, it'll dissolve into a pathetic and childish rant. 

Instead, I'll just say that I've been to a lot of Ute games and never have I left the stadium so wrecked and disheartened than I did today. I really believed in them. I really thought this team was for real. But they weren't. Not even close. 

This team is, as the Chinese like to say, a paper tiger. The national media was right and we were wrong. Utah had no business being compared to the likes of Boise State, TCU and yes, even Alabama. Today's game showed these programs are in an entirely different galaxy than the Utes right now. 

Congrats to TCU. They one-upped their performance a year ago and earned the most impressive victory I've ever seen at Rice-Eccles Stadium - and that includes so many great Ute wins. 

Now excuse me while I regroup and try to make sense of what just happened.

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PAC-12!

Disappointing for sure. Let’s destroy BYU. In the meantime, it’s important we switch our allegiance to the Pac-12 conference. Their performance this year and beyond will matter to us. Go Ducks, i guess.

by korhashamo on Nov 6, 2010 5:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Offense

It is not as good as advertised. Young defense was exploited by a better team.

Did you see how wide ass open their receviers were all day?

We got manhandled, beaten, pushed around, and kicked—at home.

Write this one off fellers, nothing to talk about, just get on to the next game.

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by Aardvark on Nov 6, 2010 5:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes. It was frustrating watching the defense get torn apart like that.

There was enough space between the defense and the receivers to park a goddamn mack truck between ’em.

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought we'd tighten up

We never did—it was amazing how well they had us pegged.

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by Aardvark on Nov 6, 2010 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

yup.

tbey must be roids. i can’t figure out how they’re so much more athletic than us in every facet of the game. faster. stronger, more athletic. i smell lance armstrong-iness at work.

by korhashamo on Nov 6, 2010 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

nothing worked

Outside of a handful of plays. It also does not help that Jordan Wynn was widely inaccurate even on the few times he had time to throw the ball. The TCU o-line just kept driving back whoever the utes put in the defensive line.

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by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 6, 2010 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

I blame you!

You had to keep winning that damn Kos/Coulter award. It bit us in the ass finally!

by JazzyUte on Nov 7, 2010 1:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Alabama and FSU lost

So hopefully we don’t get punted down to division IIA for this!

Heh, come one guys it’s just a game, we’ll win—and lose more—before we pass on.

Thanks for the comments and fun fellers, Cya next week!

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by Aardvark on Nov 6, 2010 5:14 PM MDT reply actions  

It's not that we lost...

It’s that we got our teeth kicked in from pretty much the start to the finish.

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s the magnitude of the ass kicking that bites. TCU is a deep, experienced team. Utah has a cobbled otgetehr defense and a decent offense with what is still just a so-so quarterback.

By next year, Wynn might be something special. But we really need a little more speed and meat in teh lineback group and the worst part?

Our O-Line is the best thing on the team and they were dog-whipped from what I saw, by a D-line missing two starters. That’s bad.

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by Aardvark on Nov 6, 2010 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

We quit early

I never, ever, thought the Utes would quit on me. But they did, and they did it early. You could see it in their postures once TCU was up 20-0. They were disinterested and gutless. Coach summed up my feelings in this quote:

‎"I apologize to our fans. They deserve better. They were there in full force, supportive and loud. Everything we had hoped for from the fans we got, but we didn’t deliver."

Sadly, the highlight of the game was the topless woman getting chased by security and the free post-game hot dogs. Boobs and Wieners.

But I shall pick myself up, brush off the dirt and keep on going. A Utah Man Am I.

by bbmagic on Nov 6, 2010 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

TCU beat us but we also beat ourselves in this game

Dropped passes, BAD tackling, and Dalton didn’t get pressured all game.

Fear the MUSS!!

by GambitUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:17 PM MDT reply actions  

So why were we caught with our pants down two years in a row?

It was an embarrassing loss for the program. We had all eyes on Salt Lake and this is what came out of it. TCU is a great team – far better than Utah. But never, ever, ever, ever should the Utes lose by 40 at home. Ever. EVER.

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Easily the worst, most depressing college football game I’ve ever watched. Granted the Utes exceeded expectations this year, but 40? I’m speechless.

by korhashamo on Nov 6, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Terrible game

Utah spread doesn’t work without the threat of a running game. Even the zone read would have helped. You had TCU LB’s staying in coverage with Utah WR’s.

by Chris Coleman on Nov 6, 2010 5:19 PM MDT reply actions  

It hurts

One of the worst games I’ve been to. So much excitement surrounding the game and it was a let-down.

The season is not over. The best thing Utah can do is finish strong and make a strong effort in the bowl game. Sure, it will probably be the Las Vegas bowl, but what can you do?

TCU is legit, no doubt about it. They are really, really good.

by jazzyvandal on Nov 6, 2010 5:20 PM MDT reply actions  

I knew we were doomed when that damn black cat ran across the street when I was driving...

We were heading down 13th East to GameDay early this morning and a damn black cat bolted out in front of me.

BAD LUCK!

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Stupid cat ruined everything.

by JJ Rage on Nov 7, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Iowa St. should have beat Nebraska...

…so who knows what to make of this game…

The secondary looked the same as last week though. Beat over the top on multiple occasions. Missed tackles drove me crazy. Other than that, I didn’t feel like the D looked totally awful (that’s my attempt at a silver lining).

So many dropped passes were momentum killers…and the fumbles. Ugh…

We might have been better served grinding it out. That was my initial thought when analyzing this matchup. Force them to commit to the run and wear out the D. Who knows though…

We aren’t this bad, but perhaps TCU is just this good. National Champion good.

by Middy_U on Nov 6, 2010 5:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Goes to show you how good TCU is...

and how much better we are than Nebraska

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by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Our Youth and Inexperience was exposed..

Still proud of our Utes… they just weren’t in the same caliber as TCU.

I think TCU could take Oregon.. I hope they get the BCS MNCG

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by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 5:26 PM MDT reply actions  

Last year was different: we knew Utah wasn't top notch

getting owned in your own house is 10X more worse.

Fear the MUSS!!

by GambitUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

No I agree...

This loss is obviously deeper than what we saw last year.

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep

They have waaaaay more talent than we do.

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by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 7:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

We were beat in every way

TCU Beat us, We Beat ourselves, and the fans beat us. The MUSS got silent after the first touchdown, and then started booing our team and heckling Wynn with a “We want Cain” chant. What does it do to the player’s moral when the stadium goes from insane to silent after just one touchdown? It is heartbraking to watch your team play without any, and even worse to be the only one in a 30ft radius cheering on your team till the end.

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:32 PM MDT reply actions  

+1

What happened to the MUSS?? Very sad maybe we could have had a respectable showing if we didn’t give up as fans

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by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Muss

is a great weapon when we use it correcltly. But when it get’s negative that fast I think it hurts us bad

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

We were in that game.

The Utes were in that game until the 3rd quarter. It really pissed me off to see the crowd so down when we were down 7-0, then 14-0, then 20-0. Maybe it’s because I live in SEC country, but I think Utes fans still have a lot to learn about the religion that is college football.

by korhashamo on Nov 6, 2010 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

No

We were way too nice, the Cain chant was necessary, and did not start til the 2 quarter afer about 5 completely terrible passes.
The Boo’ing is needed, you cant let the players feel like they are doing well when they are playing terrible. Wynn should have taken himself out.

by MalibuLSV23 on Nov 8, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought the crowd was good for most part...

They were in their seats and ready to go when the team came out on to the field. They stood the entire first drive by TCU. They stood the entire second drive by TCU. They got up for third downs and of course, went silent when the Frogs predictably made a long pass to convert.

Then things got out of control. Too many drunks. Too many angry people. Too many people not focused on the game. That’s where things get ugly. The Cain chants. The woman showing her boobs in the NEZ. The man going after Gary Patterson. The fights (lots of fights).

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Things pretty low-key in our area

Didn’t see the flasher or any fights. There were some TCU fans, but they weren’t that bad. All of us were cussing and were frustrated.

by jazzyvandal on Nov 6, 2010 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

I saw a few fights...

One lady was going hard after this dude. They went to blows. It calmed down, tho, in the second half.

Then when I was at a portal, a man was yelling at his wife. I don’t know what.

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had some problems in the Muss

A lot of the students who don’t know jack about football were getting negative. I had to yell at someone who after the second quarter said “Well we would have won if we ….” I reminded her that there were 4 quarters in the game. They people booed our decision to punt when we were on our own 35

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

At the end of the first half? Yeah...I thought Whitt should've gone for it.

At that point, it was obvious Utah wasn’t getting any offensive production. They needed a spark before the half and going into the locker room down 23-0 was not going to cut it.

Going for it there, a yard is all they needed, and getting it, could have set up a scoring drive. Hindsight as it is, they probably won’t have scored (since they went almost the entire game without scoring), but at the time, they needed something.

But that’s why I’m a fan and not a coach. heh

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I Agree

It might have been a good decision to go for it, but I hate the Idea of fans booing the team. All it can do is hurt.

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY

Utah fans have so much to learn. If we’re gonna get serious, Utah football has to be the biggest thing in the State. Bigger than the Utah Jazz, bigger than BYwhatever, bigger than life. Utah football has to become a religion. To me, it already is.

by korhashamo on Nov 6, 2010 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Muss

Is kind of a trend at the U. Most of the people in the muss join because it’s just what people do, not because they are big football fans. I agree with you that this poses a problem, because these are the people that are just following along with the booing and heckling. We need to establish a strong football-educated base, not just a drunk-ass section.

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ute fans booed Brian Johnson during the Oregon State game in 2008.

Yes, they booed Wynn. They boo a lot. Utah is home to boo-birds.

by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Which pissed me off

That was a great game and Johnson was playing well within the system against a very fine team I expected to beat us.

Wynn, however, did not play well within the system—though several receivers dropped balls as well.

For some reason were simply were not prepared mentally to play this gme.

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by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 7:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

"We Want Cain"

was, sadly, one of the most common things I heard during the game.

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

don't get me wrong

I do like terrance cain, but yelling that can’t help Wynn play any better.

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not your typical crowd

The topless woman (drunk off her ass) was right next to my section. The topless dude that mimicked her a short time later was funny, though…
I didn’t see fights or crap with Patterson. What irked me, though, is that while waiting for the train some Ute fans starting giving TCU fans trash, calling them pieces of shit and what not. Totally NOT cool. All of us around them apologized for those jackasses.

I think encouraging people to camp out fueled the alcohol consumption. I usually only see 1-2 drunks per game, but this was open season. Plus I don’t know how many TCU fans I saw carrying 12 packs up to the gate and getting turned away. Someone should have told them they were in Utah.

by bbmagic on Nov 6, 2010 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kyle's adjustment of the week: teaching the boys how to tackle and catch balls

I hate to throw the boys under the bus, but the dropped passes and misses tackles absolutely destroyed all hope of gaining any momentum.

Fear the MUSS!!

by GambitUte on Nov 6, 2010 5:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Again, let's hope that this game doesn't get into their heads

Or we’re going 0-3 to close out the season.

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by Michael Simpson on Nov 6, 2010 5:51 PM MDT reply actions  

what's up with the play calling?

  The one constant thing about this ute team this whole year has been the running game. You have two studs in the backfeild and a pretty damn good o-line. I don’t recall us running the ball on first down AT ALL in the first half!!! The key is to set up 3rd and short and NOT have to make wynn throw for a ten yard gain on third down every drive. TCU’s defense is too good to have to throw for 10-15 yards in a predictable passing situation. We didn’t have them guessing at all, there was no tempo set, schramm didn’t even give asiata/wide a chance!!

Dave schramm I am SOOO fucking pissed and dissapointed in the game plan/play calling you should be ashamed. PATHETIC.

Anyhow, sorry for the rant i’m just so fired up…more games to be won this year and looking forward to it! GO UTES!!!

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by smacktalk801 on Nov 6, 2010 5:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Disagree

I think we were out matched. I think we just didn’t execute. Too many bad throws by Wynn. Too many dropped passes by Christopher and other receivers. Too much bad tackling.

I don’t think TCU is that much better than the U, but it’s a little had to argue that right now.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

obviously we were soundly beat in all fascits

yeah, sloppy tackling, butterfingers and no pressure on dalton whatsoever. But the lack of run game is what pisses me off most.

Hopefully TCU get’s a chance to beat oregon in the NCG. They deserve to at least play for it

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by smacktalk801 on Nov 6, 2010 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

agree

I said it last year too. TCU is an excellent team and deserves a shot at the BCS title game ( I refuse to call it a national championship game).

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd root for TCU

I respect TCU’s program too much.

Oregon is like the Portland Trailblazer’s to me. Essentially Phil Knight (Nike) owns the team and is trying to “buy” a championship.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

agree

I thought that Utah was passing the ball too much. Asiata is a beast, they should have used him earlier in the game.

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by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 6, 2010 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

There were multiple things.

1) TCU was the better team.
2) Wynn had an off night throwing the ball
3) The recievers dropped more balls tonight than all year it seems.
4) I thought there were multiple key times the refs let TCU have their way with our receivers with no call.

by daedalus17 on Nov 6, 2010 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

The no calls

Were early in the game (or at least that is what I remember). Wynn did not just have an off day he was just terrible.

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by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 6, 2010 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

They were early in the game.

But also the first drive of the 2nd half. One killed the drive after shaky had that nice return.

by daedalus17 on Nov 6, 2010 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

agree

Who knows, the running game could have been bad from the get go. I just think that the play calling was trying to get Wynn out of his funk from Air Force. They should have ran the ball earlier in the game, like I said it may not have worked but it never seemed to be an option.

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by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 6, 2010 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

That damn screen to Asiata

I’m so sick of seeing it! We called it too many times today and probably got a total of 5 yards on all attempts.

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Utah game was over when Utah failed to go for on the 4th and 1 with 2: 41 left on the clockdown by 23 in the 2nd quarter with all 3 time outs. The message that sends to the kids is not good. Sometimes you have to be Les Miles…..

by Chris Coleman on Nov 6, 2010 6:09 PM MDT reply actions  

I was screaming...

GO FOR IT!!! But they didn’t hear me. My wife tells me they can’t hear me when I yell at the TV. That came as a complete surprise to me.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nothing to lose

If they make the 1st down in that situation you show confidence in your offense. I think Whit just felt it would be too much of a risk there, and any chance they had to turn it around would go out the window.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

LMFAO

My wife was saying the same thing when I threw my hat at the TV, then my sweatshirt, followed closely by many, many expletives.

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by uteowl on Nov 6, 2010 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

What about A-Rod?

Don’t forget that Aaron Roderick is also very involved with the offensive play calling, but I agree that they didn’t run much (if at all) on first down. I have a feeling it might not have made much difference since TCU is the #1 run defense in the nation too. They should’ve tried though.

I was totally disgusted about this game. I saw at least 3 pass interference calls where the refs just pushed the penalty flags deeper into their pants. I don’t know if that would’ve made a difference, but maybe our receivers would’ve been more open. There was just too much inconsistency all over the place.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, my bad forgot to throw A. Rod in there

Even if that is the best run defense, you have to at least try. The best player on our squad this year is matt asiata and WE took him out of the game. didn’t even give him a chance…

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by smacktalk801 on Nov 6, 2010 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

Ball control & clock management.

We forced Jordan to do too much.

by Middy_U on Nov 6, 2010 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Should've seen this coming

All the turnovers the Utes have had this season you just had to know it would eventually come back to bite them in the @$$.

It sucks to lose like that and have our big dreams disappear in the span of a couple hours, but there’s nothing else to do but to learn and move on.

The Utes need to crush everyone else remaining on the schedule, and then kick the crap out of whatever PAC-10 team we draw in the Vegas bowl.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Next up a limping Notre Dame

We have one shot at national redemption, unfortunately this will come against a less than stellar ND and this game may just give them hope. I think the rest of our schedule will be like sharks…there’s blood in the water boys.

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by uteowl on Nov 6, 2010 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Open up the playbook?

Whittingham said he would open up the playbook for the offense today. Did he show it to Gary Patterson as well?

I’m being sarcastic of course, but it sure looked like it at times.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:23 PM MDT reply actions  

+1

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by uteowl on Nov 6, 2010 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Saw a lot of 1st in this football game:

Woman taking off her shirt and bra only to be kicked out

Fans calling for the back up QB because there was nothing else to cheer.

Overall nice stadium and experience .

by Chris Coleman on Nov 6, 2010 6:26 PM MDT reply actions  

That needs to change… esp moving to the Pac 12

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by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

100% agree

Woman taking off her shirt and bra only to be kicked out needs to change… You don’t kick her out! :-p

by scotty256 on Nov 7, 2010 2:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well I'm glad you liked the experience...

Hopefully we weren’t too drunk and annoying.

by JazzyUte on Nov 7, 2010 2:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Shouldn’t kick women out for taking their tops off at the game.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Further ahead

I think we were looking ahead to the Rose Bowl or BCS title game. There was a lot of talk about those possibilities this week in the media. I wonder if the players were thinking that too.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

I wonder how Utah will respond next weekend. Will this piss them off and motivate them…or was the defeat so complete that they won’t be able get themselves up for the Irish (which is what I think happened to Va Tech when they lost to Boise St and then came out flat against JMU)

by kadoogan on Nov 6, 2010 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

PO'd

Whit’s a fiery guy. I think he’ll use it as motivation just like that debacle a few years ago against UNLV. I think somebody already alluded to that earlier in these comments.

by kailuakid9er on Nov 6, 2010 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

I dont see them coming out flat next week

Witt is just the coach I want coaching this week leading up to next saturday. He’ll have em ready

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by smacktalk801 on Nov 6, 2010 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Expect Utah to...

.. lay down some MAJOR hurt these last few games. No shame in losing to TCU, just in the way we lost. It won’t kill our confidence. I expect the Utes to play hard to mend their wounded pride.

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by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope so.

I think we still do have the potential.

by daedalus17 on Nov 6, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Its kinda hard to get excited about going to the Las Vegas bowl if you win out…..

by Chris Coleman on Nov 6, 2010 6:40 PM MDT reply actions  

And playing a team that you may see every year from now on.

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by uteowl on Nov 6, 2010 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Boise loses to Nevada...

We could get the Rose Bowl if Oregon & TCU go to the BCS Title… but doubtful of Stanford wins out.

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

No, not possible

A highly memorable 40 point loss is too much to overcome, even if Pitt wins out the Big East (which looks likely right now). It’ll be another SEC, Pac-10 or Big 10 team if Boise State drops the ball. Heck, I’m not even sure if we’ll make it above the crucial #12 spot even if we do go 11-1.

I look forward to beating one of our new rivals in Las Vegas though.

by SLC-NewEngland on Nov 6, 2010 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m really disappointed the series between our universities is ending on a game like this, because it’s always been a tooth-and-nail, throw your guts up at the end series, and there’s no MWC game I’m ever more nervous about than when it’s Ute time. I can only imagine that you’ll pay back our poor basketball team in spades for today.

Best of luck in the Pac-12, Utes. I’ll be rooting for you every game from next year on.

by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 6, 2010 7:19 PM MDT reply actions  

If BYU fails as an indepenent...

.. which I think likely, AD Chris Hill may try to schedule TCU in the Pac-10 tradition of scheduling quality opponents once BYU’s contract is up in 2013.

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see it, because as bad as it’s been the last two years you guys still own the lifetime series with us on your way out the door.

It must be weird to go from hunting for BCS team scalps to being one, though.

by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 6, 2010 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just think of us as the “what if they had to play in a BCS conference week in and week out” statement… we should be every non-AQ’s favorite AQ.

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Louisville used to be, since we kicked their tails just about every year we were in CUSA together, but you guys are much nicer than Louisville fans.

by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 6, 2010 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

And more consistent year to year in this e past decade…

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't count on it.

We’ll continue to play the TDS until the second coming.

"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson

by uteowl on Nov 6, 2010 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not if its too lopsided...

Thats the reason Chris Hill only signed a 2 year contract

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Hawk, you're all class.

I’ve always thought Frog fans were some of the classiest around. Thanks for showing that again.

by NC Ute on Nov 7, 2010 6:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's...gonna leave a mark.

Congrats to the Horned Frogs. I hope y’all do the same in all your remaining games, and that the last of ‘em is the national championship. It’ll make this one hurt a little less.

Just a little.

I hope.

by Neuromancer on Nov 6, 2010 8:07 PM MDT reply actions  

It happens

That sucks, guys, but you pick up and move on. Clearly a bad game since you guys are better than other Horned Frog opponents that lost by similar margins. Just finish out the year, win the bowl game, and start building up the program even more with money and recruits from the Pac-12 :-)

by scotty256 on Nov 6, 2010 8:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks scotty..

… will suck if we drop below ’Bama

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gotta echo most of the comments...

1. We all knew TCU was a great team. We just didn’t think Utah would play so flat.

2. I agree with Witt’s decision to make Wynn play the entire game. Hopefully, Wynn will never forget it and do whatever it takes to not repeat it.

3. The fans have got to get behind the team. We lost to TCU…not UNLV. No reason to boo any player on an 8-1 team, even when they are not playing well.

4. Fans have got to get it together. Chick going topless was WAY out of line. Worse yet, the fans in the same section that was booing the security group that was hauling her out. Along the same line, if you choose to drink, keep it under control. I saw enough puke to last until next season.

by W13Ute on Nov 6, 2010 9:08 PM MDT reply actions  

My hope is that we didn't just lay a turd...

In our season’s punch bowl.

"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson

by uteowl on Nov 6, 2010 9:16 PM MDT reply actions  

We were beaten by Texas size speed!

Utah was just OUTPLAYED, period! TCU has a fast swarming defense, Utah has slow receivers and two slow backs. It is the truth…why I say? Did you pay attention to Jeremy Kerley and Ed Wesley…those dudes are athletically speedy! 5’8" or 5’9" and speedy! Same with the receivers, they are speedy fast! Wide and Asiata are not speedy fast, they are slow fast. There is a difference, how you say? When they ran the ball, would pick up 1 or 2 yards tops. When Kerley and Ed Wesley ran, it was 8 yards plus. With Dalton’s gun of an arm and TCU’s big speedy receivers, our secondary got burned. I’ve never seen our safeties run so much in a game. Kyle’s #1 goal at the end of the season, forget Utah and California, take all the coaches and jump on a plane and fly to Texas and recruit heavy in TEXAS!

by NMUte on Nov 6, 2010 9:23 PM MDT reply actions  

At least...

And this is stretching, because it is tough to find anything positive about the game… at least we don’t think we are the shiz anymore. Utah will hopefully go into their next 3 games with a critical outlook of their own skill. They maybe thought, before TCU, that they were a top 5 team.

TCU was good. I think if anyone can beat Oregon, it is them.

by jim2 on Nov 6, 2010 9:29 PM MDT reply actions  

"TCU was good. I think if anyone can beat Oregon, it is them."

This is something I’d agree with, and I’d be fine with it. They’ve got a great QB, and a rock-solid defense. It’s much nicer to hear that they’re our competition instead of fBSU, who just post high, flashy points on hapless opponents because they can.

BCS stands for Boise Can Suck it. I am naturally a proud supporter of the current BCS system.

by Brass-billed on Nov 6, 2010 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Recruiting

What does this game do to our recruiting. I’m guessing Utah had some potential recruits watching our biggest game of the year. Since our team looked like absolute crap, do they now think twice about committing? Jordan Wynn said the ‘08 TCU game made him switch from Colorado to us, can this year’s game have the opposite effect for recruits?
Also, I do think our team was overmatched athletically, but it was magnified by the fact that we couldn’t execute on either side of the ball. I basically started expecting our receivers to drop every pass and our tacklers to miss every tackle. What happened?

by Ute_in_Austin on Nov 6, 2010 9:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Doubt it...

Wynn didn’t switch from TCU to Utah it was from Colorado…

Utah still should finish 12-1

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right just pointing out CU has sucked for years..

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying

that if I was a recruit and I was there on the sidelines watching a team I may want to play for get massacred and then booed by their own fans, it would make me think twice about it. Hopefully we didn’t have many potential recruits on the sidelines for this one.
With that said, it seriously pisses me off when fans boo their own players. It basically turns your home field advantage into a disadvantage. Jordan was obviously struggling with his confidence out there and having his own fans turn on him like that only made it worse I’m sure. In the PAC 12, we’re going to have some growing pains, so hopefully the fans learn to be better fans too.

by Ute_in_Austin on Nov 6, 2010 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree 100% that our fans are a problem..

Yeah they definitely give us a poor appearance. Its the fans that will lose us recruits more than the loss though… You could even attribute the blowout to our fans.

Not saying we wouldn’t have lost..but its worse than playing on the road when your fans are as fickle as a pregnant woman’s food cravings.

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 10:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm worried about this

I hope our first season in the Pac-10 is a good one. Otherwise, I wonder if recruits will dry up and powerful Utah football will go down in history as a phase the team went through in the 00s before leveraging up the the Pac-10.

Given the poor crowd, I wonder if we’re much better than fair weather fans on a temporary run.

by SLC-NewEngland on Nov 6, 2010 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

We have alot of Fair Weather fans...

Which is pretty sad, as much as Utah brags up the MUSS…

I can’t believe fans were leaving by halftime!! Truly pathetic..

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 6, 2010 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I Agree

I hate watching the students pour down the Isles as I try to stay positive about our team. It’s the same story every game though. They leave when we’re winning by a lot, they leave when we’re losing by a lot, they leave when it’s too hot, they leave when it’s too cold, they leave when it’s too wet, and they leave because they just don’t ‘feel’ like being there. I’m getting really sick of all of these kids I go to school with talking about how big of fans they are, and then peacing out halfway through the game. If we are going to stay strong in the Pac-12 we need a strong loyal fan-base

by MechEUte on Nov 6, 2010 11:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wrote a Fanpost about it.

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"If going undefeated in a non-AQ conference is so easy why aren't more teams doing it???" --Andrea Adelson, ESPN?!?

by Ravenous Ute on Nov 7, 2010 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Eh...obviously not in the same class as TCU...

but I’d still put you up there with Boise. They play creampuffs, you play creampuffs. At least you’re joining a reputable conference next year, and have a shot at bettering yourselves through challenge and competition. Boise’s gonna be stuck right where they are, forever, because no conference wants to be associated with them and their freakish smurf turf.

On that note, welcome to the Pac-12! Pity about TCU, but, hell, they’re #3.

BCS stands for Boise Can Suck it. I am naturally a proud supporter of the current BCS system.

by Brass-billed on Nov 6, 2010 10:43 PM MDT reply actions  

TCU is really good..Utah, not so much

Unfortunately the Utes team that built most of it’s hype by blowing out bottom feeders in the MWC (which appears the bottom feeders are even weaker this year – new mexico, unlv, colorado state..these teams are god awful) got exposed by a worthy BCS title contender in TCU. Last week vs. Air Force the fact we had a chance to put the game away and failed should have raised some red flags. I realize AF plays us tough but that seems like too easy of an excuse for keeping the falcons in the game and almost blowing it. This team isn’t as good as we thought they were, this isn’t a BCS busting team, not even close.

by utahmanami on Nov 6, 2010 11:32 PM MDT reply actions  

two things surprised me most...

1. our defensive spacing on TCU’s WR. Was it is just me or were our guys not covering anybody. no wonder tim jefferson passed for a career high against us. that game at san diego st. now has to cause a lot of worries for utah fans, our secondary made dalton look like peyton manning. they need to figure it out and fast.

2. dropped passes. i’m sure these probably drove whitt nutty. there is no excuse for them, we already have a young QB in wynn and we aren’t helping him out by dropping passes against a really tough defense. utes receivers looked out of it for the majority of the game and you can’t say it was all tcu, no we had some blame ourselves.

by utahmanami on Nov 6, 2010 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Speed Kills...

Now I know how New Mexico feels every week!!!!

"Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
- William Jennings Bryan

by Gilwhooley on Nov 7, 2010 1:15 AM MDT reply actions  

Of course...

the lobos only win comes in conference vs. Wyoming… i can’t wait to leave this crappy, top heavy conference. Have fun trying to get respect in the MWC Boise!

by utahmanami on Nov 7, 2010 1:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

very disspointing and shocked TCU just destory Utah Utes!

Jordan Wynn is very awful QB and weak boy! Come on! Man! Jordan let Utah Utes, Fans, and Coach down. He didn’t know what to do with pass and let TCU eat you alive!! Just the fucking throw Pass! Don’t be pussy!

Jordan need to learn his lesson! He need help them to win at ND, at SD, and BYU before move to Pac-12 and Utah Utes could be top 10 next year.

by VenomLugz on Nov 7, 2010 1:53 AM MDT reply actions  

I was surprised Wynn wasn't pulled..

It seems like Whitt has given up on T-Cain. Wynn clearly wasn’t getting it done. Put the senior in and see if he can provide a spark. But it never was done.

by utahmanami on Nov 7, 2010 1:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

It felt the game was pretty much lost at that point...

So pulling Wynn would’ve probably done no good. What do you do, start Cain the last four games knowing he’s done after this year? That could royally fuck up Wynn’s confidence.

Let Wynn play through it.

With that said, I think Whitt f’d up by not going for it at the end of the 2nd quarter. Once he punted, I knew he was conceding and just trying to finish the game as quickly as possible.

by JazzyUte on Nov 7, 2010 1:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

If Wynn's confident after being molested and inconsistent?

Then I don’t know, could we do worse to start Cain? You want a kid who never improves after being destroyed because that kid is not much better than the kid who lost the BYU game with poor throws.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 7:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d have thought Cain might start the second half. Down 23-0, you have a chance. But at some point your Defense caves, they have ot see the O will score.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 7:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wynn was bad...

But I really think that our receiving made it a lot worst than it seemed. Wynn made some beautiful passes for them to get dropped by our leading receiver. Then when they would finally catch one, they’d fumble it into TCU’s arms. That has to be a killer for Wynn’s confidence. You can’t throw the ball well thinking that if you hit an open receiver in the numbers they’ll drop it.

by MechEUte on Nov 7, 2010 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm pretty disappointed in our team.

Given how the Frogs played, we probably would have lost in any case. But the fact that we did everything possible to help them along, and showed no guts angers me. From dropped passed, poor tackling, the fact that they quite out there, Jordan Wynn regressing, I could go on but I won’t.

I tried not to drink the cool aid all year knowing that this was supposed to be a building year with hopefully a strong team next year. But I got caught up. It’s the crashing down that’s painful. At the beginning of the year, most of us would have probably thought that an 11-2 season would be a success. Now we need to get over our disappointment and realize that this can still be a good season. True, our chances at something great were dashed. That’s life, pick yourself up and keep going. I just hope that the team doesn’t quite on the season like they quite on the game in the 3rd quarter.

As for the booing of Wynn and walking out early, I can’t really blame the fans. That was a painful game to watch. Wynn was playing terribly, it was obvious by early in the second quarter that he was not going to recover. IMO you can’t give up a game like this to save a lower classmans confidence. When it’s all on the line you have to go for the W no matter what. Cain gave us the better chance to win the 2nd half if for no other reason than Wynn’s confidence was shattered. Whittingham should have pulled him to SAVE his confidence.

With all this going on, you can’t blame the fans for getting down. Not all fans are created equally and that’s as true in SEC/ACC country as it is in Utah. I’m glad we don’t have to play TCU again, as much as I want to repay them for this attrocity (on our part not on theirs) I think they are in Wynn’s head from last year and this year made it worse. I really wonder if he could beat a highschool team if they wore TCU jerseys at this point. I hope he continues to mature and turns into the quarterback that he has the potential to be. The way that Andy Dalton did after the 2008 loss to Utah.

As I look to the future I am now very nervous about next year. A 7-5 season is very possible in the tougher Pac and I have serious questions about our ability to contend for a conference title. I also think that our window of opportunity for a National Championship was just slammed in our faces for the forseable future. It could be years or decades before we are in as good a position to contend for one as we were this year. x/ But even if we go 3-10, I’ll still be watching and cheering for the Utes and hoping they get better. That’s what fans do.

by NC Ute on Nov 7, 2010 6:55 AM MDT reply actions  

A 5-7 season...

gets at least the same result: Las Vegas bowl.

I would be ok to be above-average in the Pac-10; I just hope our fans are as positive about it as you are.

by SLC-NewEngland on Nov 7, 2010 8:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Ouch

Well, bowling every year is still a great thing.

Maybe we do go 5-7, 7-5 or some such. Maybe we go 10-2 and are ranked all year? Like I told teh Alabama fans prior to the Sugar Bowl: “Oh, I know y’all have an awesome team and all, but we’ll show up and ply the game anyway, just because that’s who we are.”

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Worst thing for me?

O and D line play—that’s where we excelled recently, that’s where we got shoved all over the field.

I have ot think we were somehow simply unprepared because bergstrom, one of our finest players, was manhandled yesterday. Either they are all on steroids or something is up.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 7:29 AM MDT reply actions  

Really???

Is “they are all on steroids” the best you can come up with?

by 1980 Horned Frog on Nov 7, 2010 8:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Dude

I’m joking, if you knew me at all you’d know that. If I say “maybe they’re lal on roids” it means I am at a loss to describe how ill prepared we were, and the clear difference in level of ability between the two teams. It’s not serious, if it offends you I apologize. Reda my congratultory fan post and you’ll know what kind of fan I am.

Congrats, fairly beaten and again I apologize if you htought I was serious. The O and D line comment was serious.

Cheers mate

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Fan Support???

Just a couple of thoughts for the “MUSS.” Never leave a game before it’s over. It’s disrespectful to the players and coaches who sweat and bleed for your entertainment. NEVER, NEVER boo your own team. This should require no explanation.

by 1980 Horned Frog on Nov 7, 2010 8:26 AM MST reply actions  

If you've read this thread

You’ll know most of us agree with you on that. Most of the booing fans were the same people that left at halftime against CSU SJSU and UNLV. The people that didn’t even think about the Air Force game and don’t care about any game not played at home. They’re not football fan’s, they’re just in the MUSS because it’s the “cool thing to do” when you enroll at the U. They say it right out at freshman orientation, “Join the MUSS because it’s awesome and everyone is going to”

by MechEUte on Nov 7, 2010 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Tip of the hat to TCU

Not much else to add that hasn’t been said above, but as disappointed as I am with the Utes, I am just as impressed with the way TCU plays. Haven’t had a chance to see them play this year and damn, they are the real thing. We weren’t.

Still a lot of football to play, folks. Seems like some Utes fans have become spoiled with the undefeated seasons in the past, but finishing the year with one loss is still a huge success (as all of us here clearly realize), and within reach.

Last word: flush the toilet and move on. Looking forward to watching the Utes go to South Bend next week.

by Big Easy Halofan on Nov 7, 2010 8:54 AM MST reply actions  

I would say Utah has...

Been exposed 3 of the last 4 years starting with bsu giving you your second worst home loss ever back in 06 when bsu molly whopped utah 30-6 then last year to tcu in fort worth and this year tcu giving you your worst home loss ever wow i agree with this guys article 100 percent.

Funny how boise state is 4-1 all time vs tcu, 4-0 all time against utah (with utah losing to bsu twice when bsu was in the big sky which is the fcs conference when utah was in division 1 lol), and no other team in the mwc has ever beaten bsu except for tcu in the 08 poinsettia bowl. The mwc is just another wac.

by neek on Nov 7, 2010 12:56 PM MST reply actions  

Well you obviously must think really highly of Utah football...

I mean, I’ve lost count how many times a Bronco fan has thrown that 2006 game in our faces.

We were 8-5. We also got blown out by Wyoming and UCLA! We lost to freakin’ New Mexico that year. The difference? I don’t hear Bruin, Cowboy or Lobo fans revisiting that game. Ever. Even though it was the last time all three teams beat the Utes!

Yet Boise State continues to remind us about their great win over a pretty average Utah team some four years ago. The way you talk about that game, you’d think it was the greatest win in your program’s history.

So I don’t know what’s more pathetic – the performance the Utes put up that day or the fact after all these years, BSU fans still feel the need to mention it every freakin’ time.

You beat an 8-5 team. Four other programs did the same thing. Get over yourselves.

by JazzyUte on Nov 7, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

like i said the past 3-4 years you were exposed we were underdogs in that game and utah was supposed to kill bsu but of course they did not im sorry bsu would have had no problem with the mwc next year even with utah and tcu. Tcu would be the only team to actually give us a fun for our money each year. Utah also has not beat anybody this year as well, and if you think pitt was a quality win think again. Also have fun being a middle of the pack to even a bottom of the pack pac 12 team every year when you join the pac 12.

by neek on Nov 7, 2010 3:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Like we said

If you guys played a real schedule, you’d be more highly considered.

You don’t, you aren’t, and you’re always crying about it. It aint our fault, bye.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Like I said...

Utah went 8-5 that season. They got blown out against UCLA, BSU and Wyoming. What you did in 2006 is nothing to crow about. Unless you consider your program on the level of Wyoming.

In 2007, the Utes were probably better than BSU. We didn’t play, though, so I won’t say for sure.

I’d also say we were better in 2008, with the only evidence being that we beat TCU and you didn’t.

I’ll readily admit we aren’t up to snuff the past two years. But on paper, TCU and BSU are both vastly more experienced teams than the Utes.

Now enjoy playing in the MWC. We’ll enjoy playing in the Pac-12.

by JazzyUte on Nov 7, 2010 4:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Boise State

Will never be in the PAC-12, and plays far more losers than any ranked program, period.

The fact that you have to puff yourself up tihs way indicates you’re pretty pathetic mate.

You guys have a chip on your shoulder, we don’t.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

by Aardvark on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I love how some people call us...

fair weather fans for booing our own team. Well Sir, I guess that I am one of those “fair weather” fans from your point of view. Except that I have been going to Utah Football and Basketball games my entire life and that I follow the Utes religiously. I really pisses me off when my team does not go out and compete. I can handle losing, when you play your ass off. Utah clearly did not. I have been calling for the switch back to Terrance Cain since he played against New Mexico. Jordan Wynn simply is not the type of quarterback who can lead a spread-type offense. Sure, he got by in the first few games. I credit that to Utah simply having superior athletic ability as compared to their competition. I see what happened yesterday as a double standard. When Terrance Cain was struggling last season, he was replaced by Jordan Wynn against Wyoming. Why didn’t that same thing happen yesterday? To be effective in spread-type offenses against fast and athletic defenses, you need a quarterback that is mobile. Case in point: Brian Johnson and Alex Smith. The problem that Wynn has is that he is completely immobile. The thing that Smith and Johnson gave Utah that Wynn doesn’t is the ability to improvise when things don’t go the way that you planned. Mobile quarterbacks make the spread effective because they can run for big gains when no one is open on passing plays. They can also run the option, which makes a team’s running game more dynamic and difficult to cover because the defense does not which player in the backfield is going to run. I could have been TCU’s defensive coordinator yesterday. Jordan Wynn is so entirely predictable. All he can do is pass and hand the ball off. Which gives the defense a huge advantage. The Horned Frogs knew that we were going to be passing when we lined up in the shotgun, five wide receiver set. They also knew that Wynn is not a threat at all to run. Because of this, they could drop another man into coverage, which makes it very difficult for receivers to get open. When we lined up with a running back in the backfield, they knew that we were going to run. Again, because Wynn is not a threat to run, TCU could simply load the box and completely shut down our running attack. The rest I say is history.

by pappyman on Nov 7, 2010 5:07 PM MST reply actions  

I actually thought the defense was decent...

TCU rattled the hell out of Jordan Wynn. They stole the momentum and took out the crowd early…which was their plan. I think Jordan tried to do everything at the same time. He wasn’t playing like himself. Inaccurate passes, passes he shouldn’t have thrown. Initially he was doing fine….right up until the point where TCU stripped the football and went up 21-0. Very unfortunate. I think Utah showed up and could have been in this game but I think TCU made a couple plays, stole the momentum, and so the players, particularly Jordan, never recovered from that.

by CRIMSONandWHITE on Nov 7, 2010 6:16 PM MST reply actions  

Finish the Season

We need to regroup. I agree we did not play at all. Utah is a good football team, a top 20 team at that. Whittingham said we would up the playbook. Nothing new, tried to pass a lot and not run the ball. Through a trick play in there to figure something out. But hey the season isnt over. We can finish strong and I believe finish in the top 10. Right now we are still eligible for a BCS Bowl. We do need 1 more win but let’s finish strong. If we finish 11-1 heading into a bowl. What a great season for how young we are. We need to rally UTE fans! We can do this! New Season. Notre Dame game 1! National TV! Let’s go! Show the country how good we are on TV and let them know everyone has bad games! GO UTES!

by westvirginiautefan on Nov 7, 2010 10:03 PM MST reply actions  

I Wouldn't Call It "Exposed"

I’m not saying we didn’t get smacked up one side and down the other. We got thoroughly whipped. Let’s not say Utah football is a sham, that they’re poseurs, or anything like that. It takes away from TCU’s win. TCU is a very good team and they did just about everything right on Saturday.

All teams have bad days and bad games. Great teams still find ways to win when having a bad game, kind of like how Utah pulled out the win against Pitt despite multiple turnovers and a few blown plays. However, great teams DON’T get pummeled. So I think Utah still is a good team, though not a great one this year.

Wynn had one of his worst day ever. His passing accuracy was horrible, with many being too high or too low. He still had a few that were right on target, only to be dropped by the receivers. The O-line was only adequate on pass defense and they didn’t seem to do much on rush blocking and the running game never went anywhere. The three PI no-calls may have resulted in a few scores, but I don’t think it would have been enough to swing the game.

Our D-line didn’t get anywhere close to Dalton, despite the altitude and rotating fresh legs. Our secondary has been a little suspect all season and it was extremely exploited on Saturday. Our CBs and safeties have always been good hitters, but wrapping and tackling is not one of their strengths.

I think anyone who has watched the Utes play all season will agree that Saturday was NOT typical of how they have played this season. It seemed like everything was out of sync, with the exception of special teams. TCU is the better team this year, but I don’t think thy’re 40 points better. If this game is played again with Utah playing the way they did against CSU or ISU, I say that’s enough for a four TD swing. It wouldn’t be enough to win, but losing 33 – 21 is a whole lot better. I don’t say this as an excuse, because Utah got completely thrashed. But Utah didn’t get “unmasked,” they just got soundly beat while having a bad game.

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Nov 8, 2010 10:04 AM MST reply actions  

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