Why the Vegas oddsmakers are wrong
It's no secret - the Utes are big dogs entering Wednesday's bowl game against the Boise St. Broncos. No one is giving them a chance to even make it a game, let alone win it.
That's just fine. Odds don't dictate the final outcome. They never have.
But they are a creation of the current feelings toward a certain match-up and in that regard, the Vegas odds are exactly right - the Broncos should win and win by a comfortable margin.
Of course, should is not the same as will and when it comes to Kyle Whittingham and his boys, especially in bowl games, it's never smart to bet against them.
So I won't. I'll never bet against the Utes in a bowl game. I didn't in 2009 as they prepared for their impending slaughter against Alabama and I'm not going to do it today.
I believe the Vegas oddsmakers are wrong and though I'll stop short of saying I think Utah will win, I do believe they will be in position to win late in the game.
Yes, some of that belief is rooted in the simple fact I am a Ute fan - but it goes deeper than that. I'm not a total homer. I've called losses before and I'll surely call them again. I don't know if Utah has what it takes to win this Wednesday, but I damn well know they have what it takes to make it a game.
That is rooted in history. That is rooted in what Kyle Whittingham has preached since arriving at Utah. There is a reason he's 5-0 in bowl games and the Utes haven't lost one since the 20th Century.
It's not just luck. You don't luck into that many wins. It's skill, preparation, commitment and belief.
Utah believes they can win. They believe they can win because no one on this team has suffered a defeat in a bowl game. They are perfect - from the sophomores who were just freshman last year against Cal to the seniors who cut their teeth against Navy in the 2007 Poinsettia Bowl. They have yet to taste the bitterness of defeat in a bowl game as a Ute.
The team they're ling up against Wednesday can't say that. Their seniors have suffered defeat in a bowl game. It happened the year Utah, against all odds, tossed around the Alabama Crimson Tide in the Sugar Bowl.
It explains why Christian Cox promised a win against the Broncos a couple weeks ago. I don't take that comment as overconfidence or reckless because I do believe everyone on this team is going to line up Wednesday expecting a win - promising each other a win.
It's not a guarantee, but more an assurance in what this program has built over the years.
They're proud of that streak and they believe in that streak. They believe in themselves. It's hard to bet against a team that has so much confidence and faith in its ability to prepare for a bowl game.
Vegas can't account for something like that.
As a fan, I can. It's what Utah has done over the years that makes me confident they'll show up Wednesday and leave it all on the field. I don't know if it will be enough to beat the Broncos, but it will give them a chance.
That's what I'm expecting Wednesday night. Even if the odds suggest otherwise.
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I'm not a betting man...
but if I were I’d take Boise and the points.
I’m sorry, I love my Utes and I know all about the success Whit has had in bowls, but I think this is just a really bad matchup for us. The way we finished the season, Wynn being out, and Boise being a very good team I think is going to equal disaster. I hope I’m wrong.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
That's why they play the game...
Only one thing you mention concerns me: the match-up. Boise State is a good team.
However, the rest doesn’t mean anything to me because they’re all interconnected. Wynn has been playing injured and therefore a reason why we’ve struggled down the stretch. I think Cain is a good quarterback and certainly better than an injured Wynn.
But where my confidence in this team comes from his the gameplanning of Kyle Whittingham. You didn’t mention that – but it’s equally, if not more important, than your first point and means everything in bowl games.
On paper, Alabama was a horrible match-up for the Utes in 2008. Their line alone gave me heartburn to the point where I knew it would take a near-flawless game from the Utes to pull out a victory.
But Whittingham had time to game plan for the Tide, their weaknesses and Utah’s strengths. Because of that, the Utes went no-huddle and pushed Alabama back on their heels for the entire first quarter. It worked, as they jetted out to a 21-0 point lead.
That put Alabama in a difficult spot because they were not a passing team. When a run-first team falls behind by three scores, it really puts the pressure on their defense to create turnovers to set up quick scores. Outside that one turnover by Johnson at the start of the second half – the Utes just didn’t allow that to happen.
You’d be surprised at how much time off game planning can quickly erase the talent & experience gap. That’s what I am banking on.
I wouldn't feel comfortable taking the points (for Boise St.)...
Here’s why:
Utah should have learned over the last 5 games of the season that an above average QB can pick apart the secondary. Moore is obviously above average. We need to keep the ball out of his hands.
Boise St. has struggled with the run over the past few games. Utah has 2 above average RB’s plus an offensive line that had 3 All MWC players, and 1 All American.
To me, this all translates to the coaching staff attempting to win the game through controlling the time of possession and hoping for a turnover and some key plays on special teams.
That should keep the score low & close enough that I think it will fall below the 17.5 line…although this game could go sideways quickly as well, so it’s not like I’m betting in favor of Utah either. I just don’t consider it a slam dunk amongst the bowl picks.
Look to any game featuring a Big-10 team for that…and beat heavy against them.
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Yes, Whittingham does have a history of winning bowl games and has been successful. The only problem with your analysis is that for the most part (expect for Alabama) Utah has not played quality bowl opponents. Going to the emerald bowl, poinsettia bowl, fiesta, and other bowls Utah was the superior team.
The Alabama game is different. Utah prepared well and it showed. Playing all SEC teams and really bad OOC game definitely was a disadvantage for Alabama. Alabama had never seen or prepared for a spread option team like Utah’s. Even Florida could not compare. Utah’s style of football kept them off-balance and they never really were able to figure it out. The defense played well and held the offense to 10 points.
Boise on the other hand plays very similar style of football to Utah, just much, much better. Look for Boise to feel slighted by the BC$, be fired up, and Donkey stomp our Utes.
You lost me with this...
or the most part (expect for Alabama) Utah has not played quality bowl opponents.
Georgia Tech, Navy and Cal were all quality opponents and on the level of the Utes the year Utah played them. In fact, I’d wager both Georgia Tech in 2005 and Cal in 2009 were more experienced and talented than Utah.
The lone dud opponent during Kyle Whittingham’s streak has been Tulsa and that year, they weren’t much worse than Utah (who entered the game 8-5).
What you’re failing to realize is that it’s all about context. Those years Utah won bowl games outside the BCS, they were not fantastic teams. They were good teams who beat good teams.
So I do think it points to Whittingham’s success that he’s been able to go 5-0 in bowl games. They might not all be Alabama, but compared to the Utah team they faced, they’re not really bad teams.
Was Utah really the superior team?
…in every bowl but the Sugar?
2009 – Cal was 8-4 in the Pac-10, had beaten a number of ranked teams and was ranked themselves at various points in the year. Utah was 9-3 in the MWC; most would consider going 8-4 in the Pac-10 better than 9-3 in the MWC.
2007 – Navy was 8-4 and had victories over Notre Dame & Pitt. Utah was 8-4 as well.
2006 – Tulsa was 8-4 but had a pretty awful schedule. Utah was only 7-5 that year.
2005 – Georgia Tech was 7-4 and had Calvin Johnson on their roster. Utah was only 6-5 going into that game.
…and dammit Jazzy, you beat me to all of this. Mine is better organized though :-p
by Middy_U on Dec 20, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
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For being more organized
I keep accidentally eating my pets. Maybe I should get something less appetizing, like a cat instead of a Twinkie.
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There I was, just typing along...
…and up pops this post saying everything I was organizing. Stole my thunder. Jerk!
First half is key
The Utes need to get off to a better start and limit boise’s success early to make it a game going into halftime. Nevada was able to give boise 4 full quarters of play for the first time since vatech. Boise’s D was completely worn down and Nevada ran plays right down their throat. Boise has struggled with their quality opponents this year. Why should this game be different?
I think the line is definitely a play on Boise State fan confidence
There are some pretty lopsided scores being predicted by the BSU faithful.
I keep accidentally eating my pets. Maybe I should get something less appetizing, like a cat instead of a Twinkie.
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