Carlon Brown & Chris Hines leaving the program
by JazzyUte on Mar 29, 2010 9:50 PM MDT
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Big news out of the basketball program tonight as both Carlon Brown and Chris Hines have announced they won't be returning next season. This brings the total of players who have bolted up to four - as Brown & Hines join Matt Read and Jordan Cyphers. There is also a rumor of another departure, though I won't comment on who I've heard because, well, it's a rumor.
Regardless, this is big news and is a potential blow to what could turn out to be a do-or-die year for Jim Boylen. With four players now gone (and another possibly leaving), what does this mean for the future of the program?
I'd like to think Boylen is purging the program of the players he does not feel fit his style. But it's not like the basketball team has experience to begin with. Brown would have been a senior this year. And both Hines, Read and Cyphers were recruited, in part, by Boylen (though only Read was his original class, the other two came when he was just getting under way at Utah).
Oh well. We'll see what happens. Hopefully the losses stop here.
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I'm worried.
Way worried. This is a huge off-season for Boylen
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Wow
to see a guy like Carlon Brown who’s been in the program a while just leave before his senior season is shocking. I would be worried that more players might leave.
I had a feeling...
Brown was going to leave. The problem here is you don’t just leave a program after being there for 3 years over a minor problem. Especially when you’re going to be their top returning player. There are some major red flags and concerns with this.
It’s not normal for 4 players to leave a school in a single season. And I don’t think we’ve seen the last of it either. I expect at least 1 or 2 more guys to leave as well. Rumors are rumors, but there is usually some truth hidden in them too.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
is boylen a good recruiter?
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 30, 2010 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions
The jury is still out on that imo...
I do know that 3 of the 4 players leaving are kids he recruited. So even if those kids were good D-1 players, which I don’t believe they are, he can’t even keep those kids.
I have a feeling he’s promising a lot of these kids the world to come here and then when he doesn’t deliver that they’re getting upset with him. I also think the offensive structure he has in place here isn’t really flying with a lot of these kids.
I’m still not ready to blame all this on Boylen or throw him under the bus though. I don’t think losing guys like Read, Cyphers, and Hines is the end of the world. Brown concerns me though. Is it just because he benched him? I think it’s pretty clear that there’s something about Boylen that is rubbing some of “his guys” the wrong way.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
that is almost half the team. utah's AD has to do something.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Ayyeuup
And before recruiting kicks into gear. I mean, the next coach now has a full blown five year rebuilding project. Also, the perception is we are now a football school. Too bad, two major sports with exposure good for Utah. Personally?
We need a new AD.
We most certainly do not need a new AD.
Chris Hill is an incredible AD. Giacoletti was a bad hire, but Boylen made sense at the time and we can’t fire him now (even with players leaving). He gets one more year. But Dr. Hill is a great AD and has done an incredible job with the athletic department. New A.D. . . (shakes head).
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by displacedute on Apr 5, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
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