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The rarity of a blowout conference loss could end when Utah moves to P-10

Remember how perplexed and emotionally wrecked many of us were when TCU rolled the Utes last November? I do

In fact, I'm not sure I am even over that loss yet. It was as humiliating as it was stunning. 

Stunning because it's just rare to experience that type of loss in conference play. It doesn't happen much for Utah. Never has in the Mountain West. That could change, though, when they move to the Pac-10. 

So as much as we tried to dissect the defeat and question whether the talent level between the Utes and Frogs really was 27 points, we probably should have just shrugged our shoulders and moved on to the next week. 

Because that's exactly what we'll probably be doing in the years to come. If there is one thing remarkably consistent about the Pac-10, it's its top teams completely laying down one or two times in conference play and getting absolutely dominated to the point of utter ridiculousness. 

Often it can't be explained. It was just a hiccup that happens and no team is immune to the prospects. You take your punches and move forward hoping to not repeat them against another opponent. 

But it's something every top Pac-10 team deals with. So we Ute fans better get used to those types of defeats - they will happen.

Case in point: Utah's largest conference defeats since the Mountain West formed were: 

1999 - 43-29 loss to Wyoming

2002 - 36-17 loss to San Diego State

2005 - 31-15 loss to Wyoming

2007 - 27-0 loss to UNLV

2009 - 55-28 loss to TCU

Those are the largest margins of defeat in conference play by the Utes (games exceeding more than two scores). 

In the whole history of the Mountain West, the Utes have been blown out only five times. They average a blowout once every two years. Sometimes even longer. 

Only a handful of those losses even approach total humiliation. The rest were bad, but hardly anything disastrous. 

Now compare that to the Pac-10 and its top programs.

We'll start with Cal after the jump...

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Since Jeff Tedford took over, the Golden Bears have been blown out in the following conference games: 

2003 - 35-21 loss to Oregon State

2005 - 35-10 loss to SC

2006 - 23-9 loss to SC

2007 - 37-23 loss to Washington

2008 - 42-27 loss to Arizona, 34-21 loss to Oregon St. 

2009 - 42-3 loss to Oregon, 30-3 loss to SC, 31-14 loss to Oregon St., 42-10 loss to Washington

As you can see, especially recently, Cal has had a great deal of blowout losses. This is only from 2003 and some seasons, specifically 2008 and 2009, they were blown out multiple times. 

But it isn't just Cal, either.

Oregon over the same period has had some conference doozies: 

2003 - 55-16 loss to Washington State, 59-14 loss to Arizona State, 42-10 loss to Washington

2004 - 50-21 loss to Oregon St.

2005 - 45-13 loss to SC

2006 - 45-24 loss to Cal, 35-10 loss to SC, 37-10 loss to Arizona,

2007 - 16-0 loss to UCLA

2008 - 44-10 loss to SC

Like Cal, Oregon has produced a blowout loss once every season since 2003 (except for 2009). Also like the Golden Bears, they've had a few seasons where they got abused more than once. 

Some of those losses had to hurt (16-0 loss to UCLA? 50-21 loss to their rival?).

And what about their rival? 

Oregon St. over the same time frame: 

2003 - 38-17 loss to Washington State, 34-20 loss to Oregon, 52-28 loss to SC

2004 - 49-7 loss to Cal

2005 - 42-24 loss to Arizona State, 51-28 loss to UCLA, 56-14 loss to Oregon

2006 - 41-13 loss to Cal, 25-7 loss to UCLA 

2007 - 40-14 loss to UCLA, 24-3 loss to SC

2008 - 65-38 loss to Oregon

Oregon St. has followed a similar path as Cal and Oregon.

Imagine losing to BYU 65-38 or 56-14. The pain! The horror! 

Of course, a great deal of the above losses came against the SC Trojans when they were owning the Pac-10. They come out of this looking pretty good. Of their few conference losses from 2003 to 2009, only two could be considered blowouts and they came last season (47-20 loss to Oregon, 55-21 loss to Stanford) - that was when the Trojans were limping into the end of the Pete Carroll era. 

This list doesn't include teams that have shown mild signs of success over the same span (basically the rest of the conference) and only goes back to 2003, when I arbitrarily picked a year to coincide with Jeff Tedford's arrival in Berkeley. 

But it gives you an idea of what to expect. Good Pac-10 teams were worked fairly easily by other conference opponents. The type of loss we saw against TCU could become a yearly thing for the Utes once they join the Pac-10 - regardless of how great they are. In fact, based on what has happened to other elite Pac-10 teams recently, expect it and get used to it. 

Will it hurt? Sure. But it probably won't indicate any shifting dynamics for either team. No more than when the Utes were shutout by the Rebels. Utah's football program didn't implode that September day and certainly UNLV didn't surge in the wake of their huge upset. 

It's just those types of losses will become more and more common. So the next time Utah loses 55-28 to a conference foe, it probably won't usher in the pending apocalypse of the football program like a great deal of us (raises hand) thought when we went down like the Hindenburg against the Horned Frogs last year.

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I don't remember...

Ever losing to SDSU. It must have been so painful that I blocked it from my memory altogether.

I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by jim2 on Aug 2, 2010 8:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Personally

I wouldn’t call a two-touchdown loss a blowout, at least under most circumstances. But yeah, one of the things about the Pac-10 (not P-10, please, nobody calls it that) is that it’s strong top to bottom; WSU’s the weakest program overall (and particularly right now), and usually another program or two is shaky, but usually even the team at the bottom is strong enough to give you a solid beating if you don’t take them seriously. Like Sark said, you have to bring it week after week after week, or you’re going to lose some games. (That seems to be the problem with Tedford’s Golden Bears in recent years — they let down after a while.)

by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 2, 2010 9:47 AM MDT reply actions  

the worst loss was the unlv one for two reasons. we got skunked and unlv talk alot of smack about how utah

was not physical.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 2, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

I only called it the P-10 in the headline because I wanted to shorten it!

So there!

I took 2 touchdown as generally the lower end of a blowout. Obviously there were some other games in there that exceeded two scores.

by JazzyUte on Aug 2, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, WSU went to 2 Rose Bowls

in the last 13 years. That is more than 9 Pac 10 teams. (Guess which ones!!!!)

But yeah, we suck right now.

by spencer peaty on Aug 7, 2010 2:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I really thought you guys were established as a power—a lesson for every team that thinks they have arrived as a perennial player.

by Aardvark on Aug 7, 2010 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am looking forward to seeing Utah join the conference because I do believe they are a good team. However, I think the Ute fans need to be prepared to lose an average of 3-5 games a year starting in 2011 because they typically play what, 2-3 good teams a year. When they join the new PAC-12 they will be playing around 5 good teams a year in conference games alone. I do think they will eventually raise the level to compete though, which is why I am excited to see them come. Welcome Utes!

by UOGangGreen on Aug 2, 2010 11:23 AM MDT reply actions  

I won’t be surprised to see Utah dishing out some blowouts, either. Majority of Pac-10 teams running at 100% can crush just about anyone who isn’t bring the same.

by GBB4188 on Aug 2, 2010 4:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Utes getting blown out

It’s rare because I think Utah has a never say die attitude, that’s what I’ve seen during Whittingham’s tenure as head coach. Just because we are in a new conference I don’t think that attitude will change and we won’t be blown out very often… What happened at TCU last season was just the perfect set up for a TCU blow out if you think about it.

by utahmanami on Aug 2, 2010 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

every team gets blown out once in awhile and every team has that one team that is not that good but gives the good team problems.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 3, 2010 1:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

another thing that will help us out is we run a spread offense. the pac-ten is mostly a pro style offensive league

i think we will see more games like the one vs cal in the bowl game. last year usc did get blown out twice. i expect that trend to continue with the sanctions and with them picking a coach that won’t last more than three years.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 3, 2010 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

We'll see

next year,

‎"You can't sanction heart, and you can't sanction the will to win" - USC QB, Matt Barkley

by WE ARE SC on Aug 6, 2010 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

A blow out loss

will mean we go to the Holiday Bowl instead of the Rose Bowl.

I can live with that.

BCS Evolution -- Punctuating the Equilibrium - twitter

by utesfan100 on Aug 3, 2010 10:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Exactly

It is college football, in an academically superior league. You win some, you lose some. Cheer em on and who cares about the one or two losses, it’s the excitment of each season, the ups and downs that keeps us coming back to check on them.

When your life becomes your football team’s fate and a desire ot explain everthing about it? You’re a pathetic BSU fan.

by Aardvark on Aug 3, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

holiday pays much better than las vegas bowl and i think we play a former big 12 team?

it was arizona vs nebvraska last year?

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 3, 2010 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Holiday Bowl is being dropped down a notch this coming season. Used to be Pac-10 #2 vs BigXI #3. Now it’s Pac-10 #3 vs. BigXII #5, payout is still $2.4m, though. The Alamo Bowl is basically becoming the old Holiday Bowl, with a larger payout.

by GBB4188 on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

i don't know if the vegas bowl even payed out 1 million.

it might be 750,000? someone here knows the payout for the vegas bowl.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 4, 2010 6:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the MWC #1 would be better than the Big 12 #5

It is a real shame that has not happened yet.

BCS Evolution -- Punctuating the Equilibrium - twitter

by utesfan100 on Aug 4, 2010 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

2007 Oregon loss UCLA

That game was the worse because UCLA wasn’t any good. We lost Dixon, but still had J-Stew.

by bradLL99 on Aug 3, 2010 12:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Probably similar to our loss to UNLV...

Of course, since our shutout loss to UNLV, the Utes have gone 31-4. So…

by JazzyUte on Aug 3, 2010 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

after that game that i pointed out was the most embarrassing a rb for unlv who i think was named frank strong(something like that)

said utah was not a physical team and was easy to run on. like you pointed out we have gone 31-4 since. lesson learned.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 3, 2010 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

About Utah's defense...

What Utah really needs to do next year is defend the outside run better. Because that’s really what killed Utah when they played TCU.

by CRIMSONandWHITE on Aug 4, 2010 3:07 PM MDT reply actions  

That was

The flattest we’ve seen that team since UNLV smoked them.

That is alos the most pumped up TCU has been in Patterson tenure as head coach.

by Aardvark on Aug 4, 2010 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we really need a win against TCU this year

because that loss left a bitter, bitter taste in my mouth and we likely won’t have a chance to play them again for a while. In fact, I could go for a surprising blowout in Utah’s favor. Someone tell the coaches to dial that up this year – blowout TCU, thanks.

by CrimsonUte on Aug 4, 2010 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

i'll take a joe phillips last second fg. a close loss can be more emotionally devastating then a big blowout

you get players crying and rethinking that one play might have made the diferrence.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 4, 2010 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll take a FG win too

but I think those nail-biters in ‘08 shortened my heart’s lifespan by at least a couple of years.

by CrimsonUte on Aug 5, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

But it made the final result in New Orleans so amazing!

The real problem with those nail biters? It showed we had a tough schedule whereas had we blown them all out by 30 the east coast weiner press may have noticed.

by Aardvark on Aug 5, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

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