Predictions, predictions, predictions (for Pitt)...
Okay - so I thought, you know, it'd be best to start focusing on the Pittsburgh Panthers. I know it seems kind of crazy and all with the endless expansion chatter we've heard over the last week. But it is kind of an important game. Maybe the most important opener since Texas A&M. Could even be more important because, unlike the Aggies, the Panthers are expected to be good.
So as we inch closer and closer to the 2010 opener, what are your thoughts? In fact, why not sit down and open up to me a bit about the game. You have any fears? Hopes? Dreams?
Lay 'em all out. Let's get emotional. Let's relive all the bad times when our preseason hopes were dashed in a manner of one game. I'm thinking UCLA in 2006 and Oregon State in 2007. Remember those games? Remember the expectations and hope and buzz surrounding Utah's program before they went out into Pac-10 country and were humbled by a couple of non-coastal powers?
Yeah, me too.
Then there are pleasant surprises - like the opener in 2004. It's not that I was surprised by the win, rather surprised at how thoroughly dominant Utah looked. It quickly foretold the success of that 2004 team.
On the other end of the winning spectrum, there is a game like Michigan. It was a good win at the time (though as it played out, the Wolverines looked worse and worse), but it wasn't a good performance by the Utes. At least not in the second half when they let Michigan back into it.
After that game, we felt the Utes could be good - but were unsure of how good. In fact, for most of that season, we never really got that answer until they beat TCU. That's just how crazy it was in 2008.
Will this year's opener follow the same path? Should we expect a solid effort by Utah and not a game where they play just well enough to win? It is at home, after all, and that Michigan game came on the road. In the opener against a team hungry to prove themselves (they had lost in the '07 opener to... Appalachian State).
So should we expect an opener similar to 2004, 2006 or 2008? Hopefully not 2006 - but if it's similar to 2008, will you be more discouraged about their outlook or more excited?
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Refreshing
This comes as a refresher, as I am sick of Utah fans talking endlessly of BYU.
Pitt is an interesting team. They do not receive as much attention even though they have won 19 games in the past two years and come into the game ranked 15th. They also have the Big East’s co-defensive player of the year, and the offensive player of the year returning. That’s quite the mountain to climb.
Initially, I think the Utes will struggle to contain Greg Romeus as Whit will most likely stick Cullen on him (talk about baptism by fire!). Until Cullen and Pease figure out how to contain Romeus, Wynn will probably be handing off to Wide/Asiata, or throwing real quick passes which works to the U’s advantage.
I’m mostly worried about the defense’s response to Dion Lewis. The Utes have a solid two-deep front four, but the linebackers are still a huge question. The LBs might be burned consistently if they don’t step up early on. I think that is where the U wins or loses the game.
I think the game stays uncomfortably close for two to three quarters, but Sitake, the LBs and the D-line will contain Lewis, and have their way with the inexperienced QB, and the U wins it by 7-10 points.
by UtahCrimson on Aug 23, 2010 11:33 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I expect a good game
Like what bbmagic was saying Utah has plenty of motivation being left out of the AP top 25 so they jump out early to prove a point. But Pitt is a good enough team to get it right back and they will. I see a neck and neck battle. Special teams will play a huge role, I hope our guys are up to the task.
and...
if the utes win I want Pitt Homer/ESPN CF Analyst Mark May to give Utah nothing but props.
we all know holtz we give us the score while mark may is at the buffet in bristol.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 10 days till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 24, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Lots of Unknowns
Can Utah stop the run? Defend an All American receiver? Protect Wynn? Catch the ball?
Can Pitt throw the ball? Defend the pass? Stop Utah’s interior D? Be conditioned for a 4th quarter at altitude? Keep rookie mistakes down?
Should be a great game. I am still concerned about the defense. I know the line will be great, and that Pitt has three new interior linemen which plays well into Utah’s hands. Still, all new linebackers worry me. Replacing four NFL draft picks from last year’s D won’t be easy either.
And I can’t help but have images of Utah State’s Robert Turbin breaking off a 95 yard run, right up the middle, in the first game of last year. Dion Lewis is a whole lot better, on every All-American list I’ve seen. Last year, it seemed Utah played better against big bruising backs, than smaller quick ones. Sounds like the D is improving, but how much of that can be attributed to them actually knowing the offenses plays? We shall see.
Star Lotulelei is going to be a great addition. Big guy, maybe like Cody from Alabama. But I’m not too sure what to make of Aiono getting moved around so much and still not cracking the starting line up. I heard he wasn’t in the best shape earlier in camp. I had been really excited to see what he could do and figured he’d be an immediate star. He’ll probably been fine though.
Pitt has a new QB and center. To me that equals a few false starts and maybe a bad exchange or two. We don’t know if he can pass either. Baldwin is supposed to be All-American caliber WR, but it won’t matter if he doesn’t get the ball thrown near him. He’s about nine inches taller than both of the Utes starting corners so that isn’t an ideal matchup for Utah fans . Hopefully the line can get into the backfield on pass plays and rattle Sunsuri. Don’t know how much he’ll be called upon in his first game though.
Offense sounds great. I think the Utes have a lot of weapons and balance behind a solid line. Cullen does have a whale of an assignment in his first D1 game, going against All American caliber Romeus. And although Pitt lead the nation in sacks last year, they replace a Co-Big East Defensive Player of the year in DT Mick Williams. Utah may be able to exploit the middle. I’ve heard Pitt’s replacements are pretty good though. We’ll see if Wynn gets a lot of pressure early from what could be the best DE tandem in the nation.
If he doesn’t, the Utes should be able to pick apart the outside on Pitt’s new CB’s. 4,700 feet above sea level is not where you want to begin your college career as a cornerback, against a good passing team. Asiata and Wide should help take some early pressure away from the backfield, along with some quick slants and screens. Utah’s receivers are largely untested, but I’m not worried too much.
One player I think is getting frequently over looked is Joe Phillips. The guy hit over 90% of his FG attempts last year. He may be the difference in a tight game. Remember in 2008, King Louie kicked 4 or 5 FG’s against Michigan, and a game winner against Oregon State. While TCU’s kicker missed two, within 30, when Utah beat them. Can’t put a price tag on a high percentage kicker. The betting line opened at 3, the price of a Utah FG.
Overall, I think the Utes need to score early and often and make Pitt uncomfortable, off their game plan, and play from behind through the air. Not a good situation for a new QB in his first game. Rookies make mistakes under pressure. Tire them out by the fourth quarter and get another score. Somewhere in the neighborhood of Utah 31 Pitt 21.
nice post
Phillips did hit 90% but of course those numbers mean nothing when the game is on the line and he’s kicking under pressure, I do believe the game could be won/lost on his leg.
I find myself becoming
less and less optimistic about this game as it draws nearer. Dion Lewis may be the best back in the nation, and Pitt has two talented WR’s that present a big size mismatch. I’m concerned that our safeties will get exposed. And biggest of all, I worry about the expectations for Wynn considering he’ll start the 6th game of his collegiate career.
I’d probably still say Utah will win, but it’s with a steadily decreasing level of confidence.
Tough game
To be sure. Regardless of the outcome? It’s the marquee game Thursday, the first real college game of any interest or consequence. Consequently, we have to play hard and look good, If Pitt happens ot be a superior team and wins a close game? OK. If we get blown out at home, ouch.
If it’s sloppy and we win that way, people will say “meh, who cares.”
But if both teams look sharp and we pull away to win?
That’s good, because a lot of people will be watching to see how good Pitt is, especially on the east coast.
i don't care if we win by a blotched point after. a win is a win.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 10 days till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 24, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions
More of a Team-Homer than a Conference-Homer
I channel my good vibes to the Utes, notso much the MWC; until maybe it gains AQ status. I’ve been drinking the red kool-aid since my second graduate-school finish in ‘02, so i’ve been enjoying the dominance of the Utes in the MWC and BCS areanas on broadcasts as well as in person…well, when they come close to or in TX.
In answer to the question of want i want for ‘Christmas’ (= “this season”)…more Sugga-Bowl stuff!!! In standing amidst a sea of red-tide pachyderms in the far end-zone at the Superdome, i was soooo happy to be able to stand up and (keep) asking…“HOW ’BOUT THEM UTES???” that was realllllly fuuun :)
In comparison, i attended the pukin-purple-bowl (fourth time) last season at Amon G. Carter stadium…notso fun :(
The loud-mouthed tadpole behind me who kept softly taunting with “suger booooowl, hey mr. suger boooowl”…well, if 1) the other fans around me had not been so magnanimous and gracious, 2) live video cameras and law enforcement officials had not been present, and 3) my spouse had elected to stay at the house and have a great time with the grandbaby…THEN I WUDDA SAID,
“DO YOU NOT LIKE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THE UTES HAVE BROUGHT TO YOUR CRUMMY STADUIUM AND YOUR OVERRATED TEAM??? IF SO, THEN KINDLY DISENROLL YOURSELF AND GO APPLY AT THE STOCKYARDS AS A SWEEPER!!!”
alas…
So, i’m going public to say that i am soooo looking forward to the purple BEATDOWN to occur 6 november..after which, when the Utes go PAC-12, the money so ungraciously accepted by some frog-fans will be removed from their grasping webbed paws forever…then see how national media attention is dolled-out to the true bottom feeders in the scum of the south. Fear-the-frogs…really? really?? f*** the frogs!
To the right...my future brothers-in-law working hard on one of the trifecta of a Black & Gold birthright..."inebriation", yet before they acquired "nastiness" or "vandal-phrenia"
by NotsoSchizo on Aug 24, 2010 8:26 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Wynn...
BoylenOut…. I though you were MeanBob for a minute then I saw your Pic and noticed you were absent a Kilt (Just play-n M-BOB). Wynn is not just starting his 6th game… he’s also the MVP of last years Bowl Game! You have to believe that his baptism by fire last year was critical for his confidence and command of the the Offense. Last year the Utes had two new QB’s, so they had a limited use of our potential O. This year they both look bigger, faster. & stronger. Each, being conservative, can implement at least double the amount of options and reads they were able to last year. Each has been a Starter so…we are deep at QB! Our line is VERY solid and I’m not worried about our WR’s catching the ball. In the spread all they have to do is make their adjustments and be in their spots and that’s all about COACHING (we got that… in spades). Same is true for the Defense. Big runs happen because people are not in their spots… Thats coaching. And with a young D thats what you coach. Make your READS and BE IN POSITION. It’s not rocket science. It’s football… Blocking, Tackling, and Mental Toughness (Otherwise known as fighting the urge to leave your spot for shiny objects of distraction).
Next round’s on me!
i liked to rememeber the ucla game that utah was a dog by 16.5 points and we won
44-6 i think .we also started the downfall of one ben olsen in which our defense broke his jaw. utah 31 pitt. 24.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 10 days till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 24, 2010 9:31 AM MDT reply actions
my 2 cents...
I think that the game is going to be a shootout. I haven’t done much research on Pitt but it seems they have as many question marks going into the season as we do. I expect to see a tough physical match between 2 teams that want to establish the run game and play smash mouth football. FAMINE, FAMINE.. FEAST! (run, run, throw.. baby!) I sincerely doubt this game will be a repeat of the Fiesta Bowl game (or visa versa) and should be a balanced game, statistically speaking. I’m excited and think it’s going to be a great game!
Regarding my thoughts for the season, I think the Utes will surprise some people. I think we’ll end up with 1-loss season (likely TCU) and playing in the Vegas Bowl against one of our new Pac-12 foe’s. I think we’re going to beat Pitt, and I think we’re going to win big against byu (10+ points). I’m a bit concerned about Wynn’s consistancy but believe in our receivers ability to make plays. Wynn is a tough kid and think he’s going to do great things but he’s still raw, young and may not be able to endure an entire season of getting hit. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if T-Cain gets reps throughout the season. Based on stats (which can always be misleading), it seems that T-Cain had better numbers overall in practice and scrimmage. Just sayin’… I’m excited about our strong d-line, o-line, and running backs! Most of all, I’m excited to see who is going to have a break out season.
Last of all, for those of you living outside of Utah and don’t have the mtn channel… what are the online options outside of justin.tv and/or slingbox? Also, there are a few zoobie’s who have a byu justin.tv channel but i’ve yet to see a dedicated justin.tv utah channel on there. Thoughts?
Tried to get MTN in NYC
I tried to get the MTN in New York. They had no idea what I was talking about. After explaining what it was, which sports package, channel, etc. they said it’s not available in my area. There is nothing on the East Coast aside from the occasional broadcast by Versus. I know the Utah Alumni Association New York Chapter is getting together at a bar in midtown to watch the game against Pitt. Other than that NY is a pro sports and huge baseball town. They don’t care about college sports, and don’t even know about Utah one way or the other. It’s just like saying Delaware or North Dakota as far as they are concerned. I did happen to stumble upon justin.tv a couple of years ago.
Believe me it beats watching ESPN’s game tracker. The first few years I was out there, the only games I saw were live ones (Rice-Eccles/ Bowl Games) and a Thursday night game or two on ESPN. Then those disappeared. All I had left were ESPN’s dots and stats of who just ran passed or punted. Justin.tv has been the only other option and while sometimes spotty, I love being able to see the actual game once again. I’d love to know if there is something else I’m not aware of.
by UteinBrooklyn on Aug 24, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
You can get the MTN if you have directtv.
It’s available on any directtv system as long as you’re willing to pay for the upgrade. Obviously most cable networks out of area don’t carry it, but if you want to see it, directtv is your option.
CBS sports is on most cable networks and is available on both dish and directtv, although it may be an upgraded package.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Aug 24, 2010 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I did a quick check.
Direct TV in New York (10035) has the following options:
Choice Xtra (the 2nd tier plan) has CBS college and Versus. The sports pack has the MTN.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Aug 24, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions

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