TCU to the Big East?
by CrimsonUte on Sep 28, 2010 5:07 PM MDT
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PrintApparently the Big East is considering it, says the New York Post. Yeah, Texas is nowhere near the rest of the conference, but this could be a brilliant move in the battle for BCS relevance.
I can't help but think of the Mountain West mortally wounding it's main rival, the WAC, by stealing it's best teams in order to stay in the hunt for BCS-AQ status. If there's a conference in danger of losing it's automatic-qualifying status, it's the Big East, and by stealing one of the Mountain West's best football programs they could simultaneously beef up their own conference and weaken the nearest up-and-comer. It would also give the Big East a foothold for recruiting in Texas, a state that seems to be overflowing with football talent.
Will it happen? It's hard to say, but as we have seen this summer as teams have jumped conferences seemingly at the drop of a hat, it is really hard to turn down money in college athletics these days.
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i can't blame tcu though. they were jumped by oregon for really no reason. oregon stuggled with a pac-ten team that will probably finish 7th or 8th
if i was tcu i would go. i feel bad for the mwc but thompson should have invited otheres like houston , tulsa, utep and smu when he had the chance.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 30, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I vote for yes
But they should not go to the Big East. That would be a step down in the conference that they are in, not to mention the travel costs would outweigh the inclusion to the conference. Look for a Nevada/TCU to join a conference like the Big12-2, which will be looking to regain its championship game.
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I don't like the Big East idea
Other than the fact that I hate the Big LEast, it would be horrible for their travel. Not just the team, TCU fans aren’t really known for traveling to away games. And I’m almost certain that when the Big12 looks to expand back to 12 TCU will be on the top of that list of schools to invite. And I base this, on absolutely nothing.
by Riddy on Sep 28, 2010 7:48 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
look at it this way. tcu could dominate the league and get a bcs birth just about every year.
trust me, coach patterson would want it.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 30, 2010 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmm, poll should have said "Move to the Big East"
That’s what I meant anyway. I think it was implied.
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Great move!
Besides geography I think this is a great move for them. For that matter I don’t think the geography is that big of a deal now that they will be traveling to Boise.
They will be amongst many other schools that are similar academically and religiously – Villanova, St. Johns, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence and for the time being Notre Dame. Not to mention it would be huge boost financially and for basketball.
The absolute best part though is that BYU is yet again left out!!
No Brainer if you are TCU IMO
go to an auto qualifier and make more money, and arguably receive more exposure. The Big East isn’t very good in football right now but TCU will get more nat’l respect in games vs WV, Pitt, etc. Once Utah and BYU are gone – there is not much to get a lot of nat’l hype for past Boise St (fair or not).
If an invite is offered – they would need to accept, or every member of leadership should be fired because they will never get one to the UTen, Pac, or SEC. Big East is their only real option in BCS land.
The Mtn West basically turns back into a version of the original WAC without its best teams and an auto bid is dead (if it isn’t dead already – if there was ever a real chance to begin with).
I should be working right now...
I think it depends on whether they get the full invite.
The Big East has 16 basketball schools. I’m a little skeptical that they would add a 17th. So this could be a football only invite. If that’s the case, TCU should say “no” and not think twice about it.
If the Big East expands for football
And it’s not by an existing non-football member joining for football (i.e. Villanova moving up from FCS or the earth cracking open Notre Dame joining for football), then the conference would almost certainly split along football members / non-football members lines and any new schools would be all-sports members of the conference formed from the Big East football members (probably the non-football members would get to keep the Big East name). Previous football-only members really didn’t work out well (only WVU managed to transition to an all-sports member and stick around past the ACC raid); I don’t think the Big East wants to go there again.
This is why I am skeptical of the TCU story
I just can’t see schools like Pitt, UConn, and Syracuse voluntarily leaving the Big East and forming a new football conference. Those are basketball schools that have a casual interest in football. They don’t want to take a step down in basketball so that their football conference would be a little better.
Umm...
I’m skeptical because Big East expansion rumors are pretty much a constant feature of college football (though they’re usually from Memphis, Orlando, or Greenville). But it’s not like a conference with SU, UConn, Louisville, Pitt, WVU, and Cinci would ever be anything but an elite basketball conference; you could put the six worst basketball teams from FBS schools in the conference and it would still be very good. And pretty much the only reason a split hasn’t happened already is sentimental attachment to the old non-football members.
I’d dispute that Pitt and SU are basketball schools with a casual interest in football. Pitt’s success in basketball is about as recent as Utah’s in football; they were definitely football-first before that. And as much as people tend to forget it, SU was a pretty good football team in the 1980s and 1990s (let alone back in the Jim Brown and Ernie Davis era).
I think TCU is an option...
But there are other options, as well.
UCF, Memphis, ECU are probably more likely because of their regional connection to other Big East schools.
It doesn't make sense
I mean TCU in Big East? That just doesn’t sound right. what if Big East lost their BCS elgibility? I mean they really should have lost already.
Rumors have it...
The South West Conference is about to be reborn. TCU doesn’t care about the MWC anymore when Utah leaves, and don’t kid yourselves, Texas IS about Texas and the SouthWest. There is no way in hell they would move to the Big East!!!
With all of the chaos surrounding conference reallignment there is ANOTHER OPTION. If you don’t like the party you are invited to or not invited to, plan your own party. BYU will party with themselves and UT will probably follow suit on the independent route. Only longhornute can confirm.
CUSA and the MWC Conference have talked about a game between their respective champions, but what else did they talk about? Maybe protecting themselves from the chaos that ensued with the MWC/WAC saga? And what will TCU do? How much leverage do they have? What will the MWC and CUSA do to protect themselves?
I believe TCU will headline a reborn SWC created with Western Division CUSA teams.
The new SWC will have a Texas flavor and include:
TCU
Houston
SMU
Rice
UTEP
Tulsa
Tulane
1 at large – perhaps Baylor – UT calls the shots in the Big 12/10 and Baylor will probably be on the outside looking in when the conference realligns.
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