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Utah football midway through season

If, prior to the season started, I had said Utah would be 3-3 and coming off a win over Pitt on the road to end the first-half of the season, I'm sure most fans here would take it. 

In fact, the general consensus, though there were some optimistic holdouts, had the Utes pegged at anywhere from six to potentially nine regular season wins. Utah is on pace for just that. 

But if, prior to the season, I had said Utah would be 0-3 in Pac-12 play and without quarterback Jordan Wynn, who went down midway through the fourth game with a season-ending injury, I doubt the feeling would be as optimistic or hopeful for a late-season surge to bowl eligibility. 

Yet the latter point is exactly what the Utes are facing as they enter their final six games, which starts this Saturday against an equally struggling Cal. 

These next few weeks are going to be in stark contrast to the first few. The schedule, which had rated as one of the hardest in the country, lightens up considerably, with none of the remaining teams on it currently having an above .500 record. The first six Utah opponents? All but Pitt are well above the winning line - including 5-1 Washington, 5-1 SC, 5-2 ASU and, surprisingly, 6-1 Montana State, who ranks 3rd nationally in the FCS. 

Can the Utes take advantage of that weakened schedule and push toward bowl eligibility and a strong finish in their inaugural Pac-12 season?

What record, knowing the overall record of Utah's next six opponents (12-25, if you were wondering), would be tolerable? 

Should Utah fans expect a winning season, or at least a bowl berth, even with their so-so start and injury at quarterback?

I think so. There really is no excuse, with this schedule, to not find three more wins, especially with home games against Oregon State, UCLA and Colorado. 

But then again, maybe I'm overselling Utah (wouldn't be the first time). It's entirely possible, without Wynn, this team is no better than the Beavers and only slightly better than the Buffaloes. If that's the case, we shouldn't expect three wins and this team will probably falter badly, even against weakened competition. 

I'm hopeful that isn't the case and I think we'll get a better idea after the Cal game. 

But what about you? How do you see the next half of the season going for the Utes? 

Poll
How many wins will Utah see in the second half of the season?
6-0 - I BELIEVE!
135 votes
5-1 - I GOT THAT WINNIN' FEELIN!
174 votes
4-2 - Woohoo! SEVEN WINS!
134 votes
3-3 - HELLO NEW MEXICO BOWL!
44 votes
2-4 - WELL AIN'T THIS A PICKLE
19 votes
1-5 - #%@&!
7 votes
0-6 - OH HELL NO!
11 votes

524 votes | Poll has closed

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After my meltdown at the UW game in front of my GF and friends, I now have no, few, limited, reasonable expectations.

No turnovers, no bone-head penalties, no ST defense time on field saving schemes, maybe only 1 batted down pass per game, Conroy Black not getting beat and for a change some decent blocking for an entire game, would be nice. That should be good for about 6 wins.

by Utah-UCLA alum on Oct 19, 2011 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

I think the only expectation I have is getting to a bowl game...

This team should at least eek out three more wins with this schedule. If they can’t, well screw it all to hell.

by JazzyUte on Oct 19, 2011 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Without Jordan, I don't know how many more wins I can expect.

As evidenced from the Pitt game, if we do many things right, despite not having a very good passing game, we can still pull out a victory. I just pray that Jon Hays somehow pulls an Earl Morrall.

by Utah-UCLA alum on Oct 19, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

A distinction without much of a difference

It’s still a D-1AA, nothing to be proud of having on the schedule let alone beating. That said it’s a nice article and I too think Utah will do well on the backside of the schedule.

by ev on Oct 19, 2011 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha

I just pointed out that all of Utah’s opponents in the first-half of the schedule had winning records. That’s it. Nothing more. I didn’t call MSU an impressive win or that I was proud we beat them. I just said they had were 6-1, clumping them with other Utah games because, you know, the Utes played them.

Nothing more, nothing less.

by JazzyUte on Oct 19, 2011 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

MSU wasn't an impressive win

But they were a very impressive team. It was instantly clear that they would be able to contend for the championship in their division.

by Joseph Silverzweig on Oct 19, 2011 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

app state, villanova and EWU

Didn’t App State finish just 2 places behind Utah in the final 2007 AP rankings after winning the FCS title? I know Eastern Washington and Villanova have received votes in 09 and 10 respectively for winning the FCS championship. Not saying its a big win, but if they win the FCS, its a better win than Oregon State, Arizona or Colorado would be. Montana State even beat Colorado a few years ago, if I remember correctly. I think it is worth mentioning that MSU is 6-1. Other teams (like UW, who is ranked) had closer games with worse FCS opponents this season.

by uteswim1988 on Oct 20, 2011 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's arguable that MT St is a better win than TDS

Just saying . . .

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 19, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Montana State would be an average Div 1-A Team.

Heck they are sure tougher than at least a quarter of the TDS schedule.

by UnHoly Ram on Oct 19, 2011 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

They certainly have the better QB

Actually, I wouldn’t mind if Utah had MT St’s QB.

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 19, 2011 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just be glad

That Montana State wasn’t deeper in your schedule, they are on a roll right now.
last weeks game vs NAU. 543yrds of total offense.
leaders:
passing
QB – D. McGhee 18/22 247yrds 3TDs 1int
rushing
RB Cody Kirk 24 CAR 142 YDS 1 TD
RB Tray Robinson 14 CAR 107 YDS 1 TD
receiving
Tanner Bleskin 3 REC 76yrds 1TD
Elvis Akpla 6 REC 73yrds 2TD
If I was a Ute, I wouldn’t want to play MTST atm.

by BozoCats on Oct 19, 2011 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

There are many snide things I could say to this, but I don't have anything against Montana State or their fans.

I’ll simply say that the game has already been played, and that is what’s special about college football. Teams get one chance (usually) to prove they are the better team.

by Ute in DC on Oct 19, 2011 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Which is why is said that is usually the way it works. What part of that statement confused you?

by Ute in DC on Oct 20, 2011 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sagarin has Montana St. @77, Massey @91...

…higher than AQ Conference schools like Northwestern, Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, and our own Oregon St. & Colorado.

Not that I think any of the above FBS teams are “tough” either.

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm?loc=interstitialskip

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Las Vegas has the teams as even for Sat.

Looked up the latest line and Cal is the 3 point fav. Which has to totally be home field advantage. So the ‘experts’ with money on the line think the two teams are even.

Now if we can keep the turnovers in the near vicinity of the Pitt game and just get a little better at throwing the ball, I think we can pull out a squeaker here.

But, I am not gonna put my money on either team. Just watch with fingers crossed.

by U of Uman on Oct 19, 2011 3:31 PM MDT reply actions  

We have homefield advantage at AT&T. At a place where our incompetent marketing and athletic department gave prime 50yd seats to USC fans? Wow.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 19, 2011 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn it :(

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 19, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

MUSS Bus is going down...

A lot of alumni in that area too. I don’t know if we’ll get the numbers we saw at the SC game (10,000-plus), but I think it’ll be well attended.

by JazzyUte on Oct 19, 2011 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

So outside of the USC Debacle

How has homefield changed at ATT Park compared to Memorial?

by UnHoly Ram on Oct 20, 2011 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can't tell

Our first game was against Presbyterian and no one bothered to show up. If anything, it appears we have less of an advantage at AT&T. At least the field is all grass now…

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 20, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

We’ve had two games. One is against Presbyterian so who cares. Against USC it seems like we had the crowd (it was a sellout) and there was noise that I picked up on TV (Didn’t go to the game). And SC committed some false starts next to the student section even. But at the same time it wasn’t as concentrated noise as we used to get in Memorial.

We’ll see next week

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 20, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I came to terms with a so so season as soon as the Utes joined the pac 12. I figured it would take a couple years to get some recruits in here. I figured we could compete with the pac 12 teams and be “ok”. A “successful” season for me will be seeing our Utes in a bowl game

by aUtahMan on Oct 19, 2011 4:00 PM MDT reply actions  

We've got a confident/optimistic group here on BlockU...

I know the back-end is easier than what we’ve faced so far, but it’s interesting to see that 67% of those who’ve voted so far think we’ll go 5-1 or better down the stretch, 95% think we’ll do no worse than 4-2!

I guess this is why the rest of the Pac-12 thinks our fans are not prepared for “The Grind”. Hopefully we can prove it to be a myth.

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 4:28 PM MDT reply actions  

I thought I was a little optimistic for choosing 3-3.

Ha ha.

Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."

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by CrimsonUte on Oct 19, 2011 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was a little more optimistic...4-2 for me.

I’m concerned about the fact that Cal under Tedford have never lost 4 straight.

UCLA & Wash St. also look dangerous…and Arizona is the wildcard. I don’t like any team with a QB like Foles vs. our secondary. If we can get a 2-2 split out of those 4, I think we should be able to handle Oregon St. & Colorado.

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

On the other hand...

I’m concerned about the fact that Cal under Tedford have never lost 4 straight.

And Utah under Whitt had never lost after a bye week, either . . .

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 19, 2011 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Utah's competition after a bye week was pretty average.

…but I don’t think anyone wins after the bye week when you turn the ball over 5 times.

So if we get Cal to commit 5 turnovers…

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

We're fans, we're supposed to be optimistic!

3-3 will happen if Utah simply wins their home games, two of which are against the current worst teams in the PAC. Not saying they’re gimmes, but unless CU and OSU really step up their game, and Utah doesn’t majorly screw up, things will be fine. UCLA, well, who knows how they’ll play at altitude in the snow? And two of their wins were over SJSU and OSU, not exactly marquee victories. UA on the road may be a trap game, especially if Foles decides to shred Utah’s secondary. But at this point, I’m not too worried about it. Or maybe that’s just the apathy creeping in.

WSU and Cal are the only really tight games that I won’t be surprised if they go either way. So even if you want to mark those as losses, I’m still looking at 7-5 as quite reasonable with 8-4 almost as likely.

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 19, 2011 5:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm just shocked that 2/3 of our fan base thinks we'll only have 1 loss at worst...

Nothing wrong with being optimistic…just interesting that so many think we’re good enough to pull that off.

I’m thinking 4-2, and I tend to be pessimistic, so I guess we’re all somewhat confident going forward.

9-4 should get us ranked, if we can pull it off (assuming we win whatever bowl we qualify for). That would be above my initial season expectations.

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well 61% have us going 5-1 or 4-2, Which I think is reasonable...

Cal might be the only game Utah is not favored in the remainder of the season (depending on how things go, of course).

by JazzyUte on Oct 19, 2011 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Block U are the outliers

We are the vocal minority. I guarantee a poll of our actual fanbase would be in the 4-2/3-3 range.

by UnHoly Ram on Oct 20, 2011 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Actually, you'd have to delve deeper into it...

I bet it would be different based on age!

65-plus: 3-3 because, for most their adult life, Utah football sucked. They do remember the good years of the 50s and 60s, though, which gives them hope for .500 play.

35-64: 2-4 because they grew up on horrid, awful Utah football. Tom Lovat still haunts their nightmares.

21-34: 4-2 because most only remember Utah being a ‘good’ or ‘great’ football program. They don’t really recall much of the pre-McBride days, so it’s hard for them to fathom anything but a winning regular season.

15-20: 6-0 because, well, Utah football has kicked ass for every moment of their existence. There is no possible way that doesn’t continue this season, right?!?

by JazzyUte on Oct 20, 2011 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bucking the trend

21-34 and I predicted 3-3. 2005-2007 is too fresh in my memory.

Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."

Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com

by CrimsonUte on Oct 20, 2011 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

2007 Doesn't fit with your 3-3 prediction.

If anything 2007 should line up more with 4-2, or 5-1

by UnHoly Ram on Oct 21, 2011 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Memories of losing to Air Force & the UNLV debacle.

…plus there aren’t a group of cupcakes lined up for us. As we saw last night…anybody can rise up and kick your ass on any given day.

by Middy_U on Oct 21, 2011 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."

Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com

by CrimsonUte on Oct 21, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Still doesn't jive, IMO...

Considering Utah tended to play up to their competition back then (beating TCU in Fort Worth).

Maybe you meant 1995-‘97? Then I’d agree.

by JazzyUte on Oct 21, 2011 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree completely

Despite losses to AFA and the UNLV Debacle, if you are using 2007 it points to a 4-2, or 5-1 run.

1-3 after the UNLV debacle. Winless in conference. Season saved with a trip to big east country.

We went 7-1 the rest of the way. Granted the copmetition was different in the MWC, But don’t forget TCU was 8-5, and we won in Fort Worth, and UNM was 9-4.

2007 definitely does not belong in the 2005-2006 category.

by UnHoly Ram on Oct 21, 2011 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll grant you the second half of 2007

But as you guys have said, the second half of competition was not the same. And the first half of the year was another reminder of how bad Utah can suck when they want to.

But turning to this year, I don’t see any reason to believe Utah will go 5-1 from here. The offense has been sketchy all year, even with Wynn. Yes, the defense is good, but I don’t believe they’re good enough to win more than 50% of the games basically on their own. Even last week against Pitt the offense and special teams were so poor that Pitt had a reasonable chance to win midway through the fourth quarter.

Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."

Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com

by CrimsonUte on Oct 22, 2011 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

I voted for 1 loss

not that I actually believe it’ll happen but that’s what I’m hoping for and feel like our ceiling is. Realistically I think we’ll go anywhere from 4-2 to 2-4.

by gloo2 on Oct 19, 2011 4:47 PM MDT reply actions  

Not far off my initial expectations

ASU was touted as OK, but it was at RES and I thought ASU would disappoint their expectations yet again. And I don’t think anyone reasonably thought UW would be as good as they are, but again it was at home and I thought Utah would pull out a close win. By this point I was hoping Utah would be 5-1 ( loss to USC only, ) but figured 4-2 would be realistic. Granted I thought 4-2 would happen without all the injuries that have happened.

There’s no reason Utah can’t go 6-0 the rest of the season. No game presents that “ouch” factor where a win requires Utah to get a few lucky breaks. Cal has just as many problems as Utah does so it’s a dead heat at best ( worst. ) WSU is the next hardest game, and though they started hot, they seem to have developed their own consistency issues, so another fairly even match. The other four Utah should be favored in and will likely win so long as they keep the stupid mistakes to a minimum.

So:

  • 9-3 = Ecstatic. Utah pulls it together for the hard road games and doesn’t let up in trap games.
  • 8-4 = Good. Utah splits the two tough road games while playing solid in games they should win. Alternatively they pick up both Cal and WSU but lose focus in a trap game. I think the latter would be more disheartening to the fans because that means they still lack consistency.
  • 7-5 = Adequate. Likely from dropping both Cal and WSU. It would take a rare feat of stupidity for Utah to win @ Cal or WSU and yet lose to CU, UCLA, UA, or OSU. But weirder things have happened.
  • 6-6 = Mildly disappointing, mainly because that means they’d lose another game they really shouldn’t have.

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 19, 2011 5:04 PM MDT reply actions  

I think you're not giving UCLA enough credit...

Currently they’re ranked higher on most of the BCS computer polls than any other future opponent (and us, for that matter).

I know we think that Norm Chow will have the revenge factor going, but don’t forget that UCLA could be playing for a Pac-12 South berth (they are currently 2-1 and should get to 3-1 after playing Arizona tomorrow). Neuheisel has his job on the line as well.

That’s the toughest game remaining on the schedule, IMO.

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have UCLA right behind Cal and WSU

Of course it’s not a cakewalk. I see UCLA and Utah as fairly similar right now. But UCLA got blown out at home by a recovering Texas team and also let SJSU and OSU take them deep into the fourth quarter. I think they would lose to WSU on the road ( and that very game may get replayed on 19 Nov, but I hope not. )

We’ll know more after the game tonight, but right now I file this in the “probable win” category.

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 20, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Speaking of UCLA

Last night made things . . . interesting.

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 21, 2011 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I definitely overestimated them.

I can understand that Arizona came out fired up, having some difficulties due to that & not knowing what to prepare for with a new HC.

…but UCLA giving up 42 points in the first half? Letting them score (a TD no less) on every possession in the first half? Maybe Neuheisel won’t even be around by the time we play them. They’re obviously going to struggle with Cal next week…and no way they beat ASU. If they lose to us they won’t be bowl eligible, and he’ll surely get canned…so that game just got an extra element of difficulty to it.

…and I thought they might have an outside shot at competing for the South Division…

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On the subject of Arizona…I’m afraid that Foles & Criner are going to give us fits. I thought that might be a loss before the season started, & I’m concerned about it again. Hopefully we get enough of an idea what this new coach’s gameplan is in the next week & can prepare accordingly.

Wild game.

by Middy_U on Oct 21, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Balance Scales Swing

So now UCLA goes down and AZ comes up. Kinda makes me more apprehensive about the AZ road game. Great . . .

If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!

by RedJaron on Oct 21, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah...I felt the same way.

…although to some extent, I felt like both games just got a little more dangerous, even though UCLA doesn’t look to be as tough as I initially thought.

On one hand, you have an Arizona team who obviously has an explosive offense, and possibly motivation now. Finish the season 4-1…which isn’t outside of the realm of possibility…and they’re bowl eligible. Colorado & Louisiana-Lafayette are wins, ASU is the rivalry game, so you never know there…but if they want to get eligible, they absolutely have to beat us.

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…and on the other hand, you have UCLA who will either have a new coach the week they play us (which makes it difficult to gameplan for), or a coach who is playing for his job, & probably a bowl game.

Where are Mike Locksley’s Lobos when you need them :-)

by Middy_U on Oct 21, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Lobos

Are long gone, and thank God!

I’ll take 7-5 over 10-2 every year.

by Joseph Silverzweig on Oct 21, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Anything over .500 is gravy.

I was back and forth between 6-6 and 7-5 before the season started. I’ll be satisfied making a bowl regardless of the record. I will be happy if we win a bowl game. I still think 2-4 to 4-2 are realistic. I think we can beat CU and OSU without them in anyway beating themselves. I think Cal, UCLA, WSU, and UofA will require that we either play better than usual or they make a few mistakes.

by jrj84105 on Oct 19, 2011 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Utah makes a bowl game at 6-6, they had better win.

Losing to Army (if bowl eligible) in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl or to the MWC #4 team in the New Mexico Bowl is unacceptable. Since the opponent is most likely going to be 6-6 also, just getting to the bowl game is not enough.

by Ute in DC on Oct 19, 2011 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Initially I had us at 3-3

But after thinking about it I’m expecting (hoping) for 4-2 with losses at Cal and Wazzu. And then we either get throttled by TCU in the Vegas or we meet one of our MWC buddies in New Mexico.

by kadoogan on Oct 19, 2011 5:05 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

If we go 4-2, I think we can beat TCU.

They’re average this year; it would be nice to get some revenge for last year’s embarrassment.

Plus that’s a better bowl game than the Sun Bowl. Not all that interested in driving to El Paso to see Utah beat up on another mediocre East Coast school.

by Middy_U on Oct 19, 2011 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed. TCU is nowhere near as good as last year.

Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 20, 2011 4:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Start of the year

When the schedule originally came out I thought we would be 3-3 at this point with losses to USC, ASU, and splitting Pitt and BYU. Washington came as a surprise, being a home game after a bye. I thought Utah could load the box on Polk because they would lose production at QB with Locker being a top 10 NFL pick. Turned out the new QB might be more efficient at running the Huskies.

I originally thought we would go 5-1 in the second half, with a loss most likely at Cal, finishing at 8-4 overall. But now at midpoint, with the way the offense is struggling to score TDs, it wouldn’t surprise me to lose to UCLA, or Washington State, or Arizona. Assuming we beat struggling OSU and Colorado and split the rest, that would put the second half at 4-2 and in a bowl game.

 

by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 19, 2011 5:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Not worried.

With Jordan Wynn, these last games were all but gift-wrapped.
Without him, my feelings went from “gift-wrapped” to merely “winnable”.
After watching the D at Pitt, especially given they had to be on the field all game.. I’m now feeling “winnable +1” haha. Hays is getting better with each snap, I think our Offense will look better with each of these games.
GO UTES!

by Pac12UoU on Oct 19, 2011 6:15 PM MDT reply actions  

6 and 0... And here's why...

Were Utes and we’ve got nothing to lose… What fun is there in expecting losses? So long as you’relevel headed if a loss should occur… Might as well “go big”… You realist guys are no fun… Who cares if you’re right?

by isnow1 on Oct 19, 2011 8:19 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Bears are talking about their 1920 63-0 beatdown of Utah

and how that was the best Utah Cal game ever. Enlighten those hippies men.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman

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by Aardvark on Oct 20, 2011 6:13 AM MDT reply actions  

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