Do you ever have deja vu, Mrs. Lancaster?

What in the hell was that? How could the Utes play the exact same game two weeks in a row? Am I freaking Bill Murray in Groundhog Day, forced to live the same pathetic and torturous college football Saturday over and over again?
Did Utah piss off some turnover god during their epic rout of BYU a few weeks ago? DO WE HAVE GREG BRADY'S HAWAIIAN TIKI SOMEWHERE ON THE SIDELINES?
I NEED ANSWERS, PEOPLE! Because seriously, this is just obscene. How can a team have so many awful, horrible turnovers in back-to-back weeks? How did we become the New Mexico Lobos of the Pac-12?
You know, this is like Thanksgiving as a kid and wanting to sit at the grown-ups table and finally getting the call up, only to blow it by telling a crude joke.
That's how I feel right now.
Yuck.
Can I have another one of these with some booze in it?
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It's like sitting at the grown up table and grabbing your wine glass by the bowl and not the stem.
Novice.
Just kidding. The turnovers will get cleaned up. Otherwise, you played them pretty even. You are good enough to take your share of the grind games
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
I don't think I've ever seen a team turn it over like this...
It’s unreal. They’ve played completely undisciplined the last two weeks.
Groundhog day was a good analogy
At halftime I looked at the scoreboard where it was 7-10 and had a creepy chill.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
I'm not sure where my ire should be directed...coaches or players...
So we’re turning the ball over at a rate the makes me wonder if the 80’s have returned…
Is Hays deciding to float the ball in double-coverage (although it’s not really “double”…the ball just hangs for so long the safety has time to close)…anyway, is that his decision or the coaches for calling the play that let’s him think that is an option?
Is the weak protection of the ball (Dunn) a matter of his poor play, or is that something that could be coached away?
This team looks as if it could hang with the 2nd tier of the Pac-12 (Wash, ASU, USC) if the TO margin was neutral. Can we fix this epidemic?
Players for sure
We have our good coaches, it just seems that our player do everything they can to make us loose.
Go utes!
by utahman13 on Oct 8, 2011 6:16 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree...and agree...
We have good coaches, no doubt. But they do shoulder some of the blame. The difference between a well coached team and a poor coached team often does come down to turnovers. The last two weeks, we’ve not been very well coached and that’s so unlike a Whittingham-led team.
I don’t know why, either, because we looked very well coached against SC and BYU for the most part.
I told BYU fans that Roscoe was to blame for the Utah loss...
…how can I not say the same for the Utah coaching staff?
Urban would have coached the TO’s out of this team. I love Whit, I think he is better than this…but he should shoulder the lion’s share of the responsibility for these mental errors. Turnovers & penalties are on the coaching staff, IMO…and that is costing us any chance we have.
We’d better get it straightened out by Cal.
You guys should be turning on Chow. He hasn't been what you think he is for quite some time
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
It has nothing to do with Chow...
Except outside the fact every coach deserves the blame. But I’m not going to put the lions share of blame on him. No way.
This team is a mess all around. We get way too many stupid penalties, the offense is turning the ball over, the defense is outmanned.
That’s not all on Chow.
Moronic post of the day?
Did you watch either of the last two games. Obviously not, or you would know that this is definitely not on Chow.
In Fact Chow has called some great games the last two weeks. The Utes were rolling against U-Dub before Wynn’s injury, and with a QB, who honestly should not be a Div. 1 QB, Chow called a brilliant gameplan that actually had the Utes leading 14-13 with the ball midway through the 3rd quarter.
Why I never bought into the whole "Hays will lead us to the promised land..."
I’m not going to give up on Hays just yet, but my expectations haven’t changed: there is a reason he wasn’t playing D1 ball and would have continued playing D1 ball had it not been for the program he was playing at folding.
He’s not a D1 quarterback and if we’re going to rely on him to be one, we better damn well hope our running game produces great results because, as you saw today, you just can’t trust him in the passing game.
I never bought into Hays either...
..But I did buy into the Offense using the run game, and the defense playing well enough that all Hays had to do was manage the game.
Everyone who though Wynn’s passes would float, need to watch Hays. And supposedly there is nothing wrong with Hays’ shoulders. He just doesn’t have the strength. His passes take FOREVER to get to the WR.
I still think we can win at Pitt or at Cal even with Hays, but not if we have to rely on Hays.
Agreed about it not being Chow...
He is not the QB coach. BJ needs to make sure Hays stops with the floating bombs into coverage. He isn’t experienced, and that can & will be coached/fixed. He will learn to throw the ball away given time.
Ball protection is on position coaches, which trickles down from the HC. Again, I love Whit…I don’t want him going anywhere…but because I respect him so much, I expect him to get this fixed.
Dunn is a great talent, but if he can’t protect the ball, bench him. Juan Blanco needs to learn to put both hands on the ball when he hits “the pile”, and only focus on ball control. If he can’t resolve it, bench him. Send a message. The game is won/lost on turnovers & special teams. YOU PLAY TO WIN THR GAME!!!
I have to disagree with Juan Blanco...
Juan Blanco gets a lot of extra yards putting a hand down and lunging forward. I didn’t view that fumble as careless ball handling. The dude straight ripped it out…
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
That doesn't make it all right for me...
That was a game-changer. There is something to be said for putting both arms on the ball & change your focus from extra yards to ball protection.
But his game IS extra yards...
That’s his bread and butter. He’s dodgy and he puts a hand down and gets those extra yards. He has been doing that all season and I think he secures the ball pretty well. He’s not going to run anybody over. That wasn’t a carless fumble (a-la Reggie Dunn or Jake Heaps), that was a pretty hard rip.
But I do agree that the fumble was a game changer.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
You are right...it was yanked away, a great play by their D.
…but we have to expect this. This is what good players do. Big strong, roided up Pac-12 players will take the ball from you unless you put both arms on it.
Coach that $#!* up!
The White Fumble hurt, but it wasn't the game changer.
The game changer was the Interception on our next play. Even with White’s fumble it was a 1 score game, and we had shown we could get down there. The interception after is what broke the camel’s back.
What about the ASU fumble that was recovered by the punter coming off the sideline?
I was really confused about that one. The ref came out and announced it was a fumble after Trevor Reilly hit Brock Osweiller. If they officially call it a fumble why did they not call anything for the sideline picking it up on the field?
I need to go watch it on my DVR because I am still very confused how that happened.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
Continuous action supercedes the whistle
But if the whistle is blown, and players react to it and stop playing, then the ball is dead. That’s my guess anyway.
by 100ThingsUtah on Oct 10, 2011 2:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I thought it was different...
When Utah came out and scored on their first possession of the third, I thought it would be different. As soon as IV had the ball ripped out of his hands and ASU marched down and scored, converting like 100 4th down conversions, I figured we were in trouble.
The curse of Lavell has hit us hard…
Utah needs to take the balls used and uni’s worn the last two weeks and burn them. They need to sacrifice something to the football gods or we are in trouble.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 6:04 PM MDT reply actions
every fuckin week
I’m sorry for going bobby knight every week but give me a fuckin break Utah. What the fuck are we pac 12 or pac shit. I’m sick and tired of turning into Utah state each week. Jesus calm me down
by aUTmanAMi on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
All that shit talk on Erickson at least he can win a fuckin game
by aUTmanAMi on Oct 8, 2011 6:12 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Last year...
I was telling everyone that Utah may not be in the top 3 teams of the PAC, but they were 4 or five. I felt the way they played USC justified my assertion. There have been times during the last two games I also felt I was justified. However, I don’t know what to think now.
I’m a grown man and I’m crying inside. Well, maybe a little on the outside, but certainly on the inside. Thank heaven the deer/elk hunt (rifle) opens this week…
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 6:13 PM MDT reply actions
Deja vu for real.
Once I saw the score at halftime, I knew that we were fucked.
Go utes!
by utahman13 on Oct 8, 2011 6:13 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I'm waiting...
to read or hear post game comments from Whit and the players. I want an explanation.
I DEMAND MY SATISFACTION!!!
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Win more games or A game?
I want our first PAC win…
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions
i'd say that's a conservative estimate for me
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
i was too busy wishing i had some liquor
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions
don't beat the children
beat the elderly
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Or an ASU player...
But I’m as far away from Vontaz as possible… Though he didn’t make as much noise as I thought he would.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
He seemed pretty cordial, actually...
We seemed to be targeting him with our blocks…he’d help the guy blocking him up after he knocked him over…
Reminded me of “Rudy”.
this piece of shit game
Almost cost me a night in jail. Asu fuckin punk
by aUTmanAMi on Oct 8, 2011 6:21 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Calm down man...no need to get thrown in jail over a loss.
This season sucks…but…well, that’s all I’ve got. haha
As the official attorney for BlockU commenters, I strongly advise you to break now laws and to leave the ASU fans in peace.
What are the details?
I might have punched someone after this game if they ran their mouth…I feel your pain.
meh
A little Duran Duran lifted my spirits
by aUTmanAMi on Oct 8, 2011 6:48 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Duran Duran picked up your spirits???
How the hell can that band get anyone over a dejavu experience. Take a few bars and repeat over and over and over and over….
What a weekend First the Phillies choke and then our Utes pull this boner of a game. Right about now I wish I weren’t LDS; at least you guys can drown your depression.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson
a view to a kill
Duran Duran followed by a chug of vodka. Happy to say I’m numb
by aUTmanAMi on Oct 8, 2011 6:52 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
well middy
Lets JUST say I don’t take a little sun devil saying “welcome to the pac 12 BITCH” very lightly. Push came to shove he ended up on the curb and me in cuffs
by aUTmanAMi on Oct 8, 2011 6:55 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I would be tempted to get into it as well...but I have a short temper.
Better to walk away every time. You end up in jail, or worse, like that SF Giants fan. (I’m not saying he mouthed off, BTW…just that you never know what the other guy is capable of)
It just seems like Utah’s offensive line are over matched. Maybe they don’t have the new blocking/running schemes down, or perhaps it’s physical. I think we dramatically underestimated the challenges the Utes would face switching from a spread to pro-style.
Hopefully Utah can get some solid recruits for the O-line cause it’s probably the biggest weakness – no pass protection, no run game = worn out tired defense who starts to give up in the second half of games.
Just talked to a friend who sat behind the ASU bench...
Apparently it isn’t just the fans who are douche bags. The ASU players AND coaches were throwing gatorade and other things at fans sitting behind their bench.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 7:06 PM MDT reply actions
Hmmm, I've walked the sidelines at ASU games...
I find this hard to believe. That said, nothing like a little mythos to spark a hated rivalry
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Come on, stay classy Salt Lake
We don’t want that type of rep. Ever. Come on people act like you’ve been there before. The good, the bad, the ugly. Schools like Stanford, Cal, and UCLA are never going to respect a bunch of thugs or rednecks. If what you said is true, then that is very embarrassing for the school, city, football team, and the Ute Nation in general. I hope they caught the punks, arrested them, and ban them forever.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 8, 2011 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Erickson coached teams are always unruly
At least you guys aren’t like UA fans who threw a fell water bottle at a UO cheerleader and gave her a concussion.
Have to keep composure
It’s usually the guy who retaliates, not initiates, that gets a personal foul penalty. People have to be smarter. If someone throws a line with a hook on it, don’t take the bait.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 10, 2011 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow. That's not a good sign.
Wait til you experience Autzen for the first time.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
We're waiting with bated breath for their hyper-exaggerated tales.
Just because the Whelps can’t handle a tap on the nose when they wet the floor doesn’t mean the Utes can’t.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 11, 2011 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Fan confrontation seemed pretty common today.
I had to break up a few fights between my friends from ASU and Ute fans. Regardless, fuck losing I want a PAC-12 win.
by mykneegrows on Oct 8, 2011 8:09 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Got along well with the ASU fans that were by us.
Other than a little condescension that I just ignored. “You guys will get it. Give it a few years.” Screw that, I want to see my team not suck starting now.
We had some good little chats about the game. No bitterness or rudeness.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
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No incidencts in my section,
But I agree with the sentiment that the ASU fans were the douchiest of the bunch so far.
You haven't played Arizona yet.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 9, 2011 11:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Time for some perspective again
Time to add some more insight to all panicking Ute fans.
Take it easy.
Breathe.
Let it roll off.
There will be more games.
There wil be more losses.
There will be more victories.
I’m a season ticket holder, so I personally see all the home games. Was this loss demoralizing? Yes. Did it feel a LOT like last week? Absolutely.
But, was it better than last week? Again, yes.
A loss is a loss, and losses suck! But this team IS moving forward. Utah is getting better, and will continue to get better. It’s hard to see the positive in losses like this, but it’s there if you look. Here’s a little…
We hung with the best team in the Pac 12 South… and held the lead with 5 minutes left in the 3rd. Held them to UNDER 75 yards rushing, too.
Maybe most importantly, we learned that Jon Hays can play. When Jordan went down, we all thought that would be it. But today, we proved that even with a backup QB we can compete. In fact, Jon Hays is good enough to take the starting QB slot. He can lead this team, I guarantee it.
Take away the turnovers, and both the Wash and ASU games are close to the end and we may even win them. No excuses, but my point is, Utah won’t be turning the ball over 4 and 5 times a game for the rest of the season… and the quality of our opponents is now going to start declining.
We are all used to Utah winning, but I think most Utah fans (including me) didn’t fully acknowledge the possibility that there would be growing pains in the Pac 12. Now, we can’t ignore that possibility. But there is some peace of mind in accepting that fact. We have only played 3 Pac 12 games. Of course it’s going to take some time to adjust to it.
I want all Utah fans to remember something… and remember it well. Utah may be a Pac 12 team, but we still have mid-major depth. It takes time to develop BCS-level depth on the roster, and it will take us 2 or 3 or 4 years to catch up to the rest of the Pac 12. More money and more exposure will get us there, but it will take time. We must be patient.
So for the next year or two, remember that we’re still a MWC-grade team playing in the Pac 12… and thus, it’s going to be an uphill battle. Colorado is NOT in the same boat. They surely ought to have BCS-level talent at this point, coming from the Big XII. So no comparisons should be made there. But in five years, when the Utes are fully Pac 12 in every regard… watch out.
This exciting/nerve-wracking/depressing roller coaster ride continues next week… when Utah defeats Pittsburgh.
False...
With no turnovers, I think we blow Washington out… Just saying…
Additionally, we won’t catch up talent wise if we don’t win ball games…
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions
your wrong there
You will get better talent just being labeled PAC 12. Its a lot easier to get better players to come play for you just knowing they will be playing against usc, ucla, ect…
Maybe...
But going back the last few years, Utah’s recruiting has been relatively similar to UAz and WSU. Utah is in the middle of those two programs, but similar. I chose those two schools because they seem similar in a way. Neither city is really what I would call a “destination” city. SLC is cold in the winter and isn’t as big of a city. Mesa, warm year round with EZ women. LA, nough said. Oregon, Nike U. Seattle, love that city. Stanford and Cal, lived in the bay area for a couple of years and loved it and SF is right there. I lived around Pullman for a couple of years and it’s not a big city and there isn’t much to do. Tucson, I don’t know much about, but I’ll just guess that size wise it’s similar. What it comes down to, is SLC, Pullman and for all I know Tucson are similar in that they don’t scream “come live here for four years” to a high school Senior. Maybe I’m wrong in that.
So, in that case, winning is very important is we want to distinguish ourselves. I hope I’m wrong, but I think I’m right.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 9, 2011 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions
ARE YOU NUTS??!!!
It’s not like you guys just gave those TO’s to UW. WE TOOK THEM. We EARNED them. Don’t be like that. This fan base is better than that. Give respect when its due.
I mean, how you feel if BYU and USC fans were saying the same thing about you this year? Get my drift…?
by Brandon N Kelly Boone on Oct 10, 2011 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
correct
You are right. Washington and ASU forced every turnover Utah had.
But there is also some lack of execution in those TOs. In other words, if Utah takes care of the ball better, I bet at least a quarter of those turnovers don’t happen.
All credit to UW and ASU for creating them, but Utah is not doing all it can to keep possession.
by TomahawkRed on Oct 10, 2011 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Calm down...
ASU forced those turnovers, but a great deal of ’em were because Utah failed to execute. They made stupid passes or decided to go for extra yards instead of being content with just getting a few.
Most turnovers aren’t unforced. Generally, the other team steps up and creates them unless you’re a completely incompetent team. That doesn’t mean you can’t control turnovers, though. Disciplined teams do not put themselves in position to make stupid plays that lead to teams forcing turnovers.
Good teams capitalize on mistakes
UW and ASU were good in capitalizing on Utah’s mistakes. Had Utah not made those mistakes (e.g. Dunn making a stupid dive to get an extra yard when he already had a first down… Christopher making an extra juke even though he just caught a 40 yard pass, and was otherwise dissatisfied with finishing on the 3 yard line instead of the 2 yard line…), then those wouldn’t have been turnovers, regardless of how good the defense was.
Yes, they were forced, but the opportunities were created by Utah’s lack of discipline as well. It’s usually a combination.
Schedule is front loaded
I feel everyone’s disappointment and pain. I’m still optimistic though. Looking at the last couple of seasons, Utah has lost to teams they were supposed to lose to and beaten teams they were supposed to beat. I thought we would be 3-3 at the midpoint anyway. I had USC, ASU, and Pitt as losses. If Utah beats Pitt, big if…then they’re still at 3-3 with a chance to do damage in the second half of the season.
I would argue that Utah has already played the three toughest teams they will face this year. The teams that have beaten Utah are a combined 13-3. The remaining schedule, while still tough, seems more manageable with only two teams having winning records. What follows:
@Pitt 3-3
@Cal 3-2
Oregon State 1-4
@Arizona 1-5
UCLA 2-3
@Wash St. 3-1
Colorado 1-5
Utah can't beat good teams anymore but...
We’ll see if they can beat the middle and bottom PAC12 teams. The combined record of teams they’ve already played is 21-6 and the remaining schedule is a combined 14-23. Here is who Utah has lost to the past two seasons. The opponents who have beaten them this year may shape up to be similar types of teams.
2009
(10-3) Oregon
(12-1) TCU
(11-2) BYU
2010
(13-0) TCU
(8-5) ND
(12-1) BSU
Obviously Utah has issues, but I think they’ll finish the year alright. The thing I’m really worried about is their pass defense going into the Arizona and Washington St games. And of course TOs.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 8, 2011 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
2009 they should have beaten Oregon and BYU
by PhuckthePhillies on Oct 9, 2011 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I remember it being a nail-biter in Autzen
but Scoreboard
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 9, 2011 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
The toughness Utah has on the lines is a differentiator in itself.
I think the PAC 12 championship game is still in sight…long distance maybe, but not out of the question. Unfortunately for the Utes, ASU misses two of the better teams in the PAC between Stanford and Washington. The question is whether or nor you can find four losses on their remaining schedule:
Oregon next week: LOSS
One of Colorado, UCLA, WSU: there is a loss in there as both UCLA and WSU are on the road
Arizona: this rivalry is ALWAYS nuts no matter which team is “better”. I wouldn’t concede this game
Cal: in Tempe – tough one for the Bears, but not impossible. The Bears D can stop ASU outright, but can they get better QB play? Hard to say.
The other factor here is UCLA given where they are in the standings. However, with ORE, Cal, USC, and Utah still on the schedule, you’d think they are gettable.
The question is: can you win all of your remaining PAC games? That’s really the only option left. Imagine what a run it would be if you could pull it off.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Utah fan mindset
In the course of about a year Utah fans have switched to the big boy conference and lost a hall of fame basketball coach we have had for twenty years. I know this is not an NBA blog, I just find it interesting that both events happened so closely to each other which has made Utah fans have to drastically adjust expectations. Both teams seem like after the adjustment period things will be good/great, but this period of uncertainty is very difficult and has been responsible for way more losses than I was expecting this year, but things will get better.
by notblue19 on Oct 8, 2011 8:47 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Turnover margin wasn't -4 today
It was -5.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
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Just trying to keep this discussion positive.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
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nope
Definitely not asking too much.
But Utah’s not gonna keep doing that for the rest of eternity… or even the rest of the season.
As Whitt said, we will win when we stop turning the ball over.
Utah fan mindset
In the course of about a year Utah fans have switched to the big boy conference and lost a hall of fame basketball coach we have had for twenty years. I know this is not an NBA blog, I just find it interesting that both events happened so closely to each other which has made Utah fans have to drastically adjust expectations. Both teams seem like after the adjustment period things will be good/great, but this period of uncertainty is very difficult and has been responsible for way more losses than I was expecting this year, but things will get better.
by notblue19 on Oct 8, 2011 8:47 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
At least Utah can't lose a Pac-12 game 30-something to 14 next week
because we aren’t playing a Pac-12 team.
Seriously, at the half I was thinking the same thing – this game was so much like last week’s game it was scary. Then when Utah scored the TD to go up 14-10 at the beginning of the third quarter, I had hope. After that it just became even more like last week’s game. Thank goodness we didn’t lose a QB this time.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com
U'll win next week...
And at the end of the year you’ll look back at the scheduling gods and say: “Thank You!!” for scheduling a non-con in the middle of the season.
Thoughts
-Utah run defense stepped up and held ASU’s top ball carrier to under 50 yards. But Utah’s pass defense is a continuation of last year and gets shredded.
-Hayes isn’t the answer at QB. I give the guy credit but his arm isn’t as strong as advertised. He constantly under threw receivers in the second half, on top of his poor decision making.
-Cullen will be good for at least one extremely costly, drive killing penalty per game.
-The offensive line can’t open running lanes. White needs help running the ball. I don’t know that he is an every down back. If Utah can’t line up on the goal line and pound it in, they will have problems all year.
-The coaches have absolutely no confidence in their FG kicker.
-Turnovers will kill this teams spirit. 5 in back to back games is unheard of.
-Utah run defense stepped up and held ASU’s top ball carrier to under 50 yards. But Utah’s pass defense is a continuation of last year and gets shredded. Especially slant routes. Holy crap.
-Hayes isn’t the answer at QB. I give the guy credit but his arm isn’t as strong as advertised. He constantly under threw receivers in the second half, on top of his poor decision making. Unfortunately, we don’t have an answer at QB. Huge recruiting deficiency there.
-Cullen will be good for at least one extremely costly, drive killing penalty per game. I was just thinking today that I won’t be that sad when he graduates. Dude can be infuriating at times.
Amen to all the rest of your points.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
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John Cullen blows...
In fact, I would argue that he is the one with the blue dress in his closet… (@JazzyUte)
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Cullen is infuriating on so many levels
I swear to god almost anytime we line up in a short yardage situation i start pulling my hair out thinking Cullen is going to screw it up
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Remember when we thought he was a huge "get"...
…and he was quoted as saying that Wynn would never have to worry about his blindside…AND WE BELIEVED HIM!
I thought I was going to lose my voice screaming at him
last week when he didn’t even look at the blitzing Washington player as he ran right past him and blindsided Wynn.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com
as in
i’d love to drive a stake right through each one’s heart?
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Edward would be a much better LT...
Didn’t you see the way he stopped the van in the first movie? Confusing him with Edward is to much of a complement.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions
frankly i'd rather slit my throat
than watch twilight
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Truth be told...
I went to the midnight showing. But I’m married and went because my wife made me. It was the scariest experience of my life. Guys were out numbered 100-1. At any moment, women could turn on us and there would have been nothing we could do. John Cullen does not strike fear in my heart.
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions
100-1 women to men ratio.
i could live with that ;) lol
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
100-1 odds?
Yeah that sounds like a dream to me. If it could only be sustained in real life for long periods of time. HAHA
Gotta also say, the ratio of single women to men in NYC is something like 100-85. Times that by the population and you’ll see that it is great to be a man in NYC. I shutter at the thought of having to dating entitled, princess Utah girls ever again.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 8, 2011 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions
man i'd take that NY ratio anyday.
i’m in the most hellish dry spell/dating wasteland its not even funny. coming up on 10 months without anything, barely a hug.
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
oh and i second the whole
entitled, princess thing. what the hell are a lot of these girls deals in this state
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Lots of nice guys in Utah
willing to fork out money on a first date to try and impress. Bad ratio of men to women and even worse if you’re not LDS. Nothing bad against the religion, just a lot of the more religious ones won’t date unless you’re religious too. NYC they come in every shape, size, and color.
No one gets every girl because some hate Wall street types and some love them. Whoever you are, there will be some girl that is into you and they’ll give you the signals to approach them. There are so many jerks in NYC that if you’re reasonably nice, and charming, but sincere you’ll keep girls around.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 8, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
i used to be that guy willing to fork out to impress in high school.
but not anymore. and you’re definitely right about the part if you’re not LDS. makes things a bitch. hell even some of the slutty chicks won’t go near ya unless you’re mormon.
sounds like i need to spend some time in new york
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Definitely
It’s fun for a while, but it’s also a royal pain in the ass, in some ways. Takes some getting used to but it’s never dull.
I really want to get back to Utah though. I’ve been back east for 7 years and am ready to come home. I miss the mountains and my fam and friends.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 8, 2011 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
i couldn't leave this state for that long
i need a break that’s all. i love walking out the door and looking out the mountains or taking a short drive up to a hike
by khaostheory117 on Oct 8, 2011 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
That wasn't a blitz.
It was the end or olb lined up in front of him in a 3-point stance. He chose to ignore him and help the guard beside him with his block. First play of game, too. Genius!
Even worse.
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Here's more!
Just watched the broadcast of the ASU game on the DVR. He did it again twice in this game. Helped the guard with his block and left the guy lined up in front of him to walk in the backfield unscathed. Also missed two blcoks ona screen play to White and then topped off the play by grabbing White and helping throw him to the ground. There’s a reason why some of these guys end up at JC’s out of high school. I think we now know why Cullen had to go the JC route out of high school. In his defense, his holding call was a BS call. End pulled him down on top of him.
Forgot to mention.
On one of the plays he left the end to help with the guard he got called for a legit hold that brought Devonte’s big play back (only turned out to be an 87 yard penalty), and his guy lit up Hays as he let go of the ball.
Maybe he's doing a good job when we don't notice, but
When a critical play comes up he seems to find a way to blow it. I’m blanking on some specific instances from last year, but this is nothing new. I remember some of the preseason talk people were saying we had two potential NFL tackles. WTF?
I respect the talent of Cullen...
but whenever we convert on a third down and then get called for holding…my words are “let me guess, Cullen”.
Or random personal foul...
just saying…
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions
John Cullen and Tevita Stevens can kiss my ass. They were horrible today.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I'm so angry right now...
that game was just bullshit. There needs to be some benchings and asses being chewed.
The offensive line was pathetic. Couldn’t block anyone and had some big penalties.
Our WR’s and RB’s can’t hold onto the dam ball.
Hays was about what I expected, and that’s not very good. He did show some arm strength though.
Our defense is really good (except for the fact that our DB’s still can’t turn around and pickup the ball when it’s thrown at them). But when they can’t get a breather because the offense keeps turning it over on the first play of a fuckin’ drive, what are they supposed to do?
You can never just give the opposing team the ball 5 times like we have in the last two weeks and expect to win. I think it says a lot about our defense that they could even keep us in the game through the first half with that shit happening.
Very frustrated right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Charles Henderson...
Why isn’t he our permanent punt returner?
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 8, 2011 9:57 PM MDT reply actions
I was wondering the same thing. He had a great punt return, then that risky one inside the 10 without a fair catch. Didn’t see him after that.
by UteinBrooklyn on Oct 8, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Was that punishment for not calling a fair catch? Why don’t we institute the same punishments for all of our young men who insist on getting personal foul penalties? I feel like I’m back in the McBride era. It took me about four years after he was gone to stop looking for a flag after every good play we had. Now I’m starting to do it again.
Henderson was injured at one point and out for the rest of the game.
At least, that’s what they were saying on the KALL 700 broadcast.
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Lol. Jazzy, you are truly a unique addition to the PAC SBN blog network
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Oct 9, 2011 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
refs
Was it me or did these refs also call a terrible game? I know Utah still would’ve lost, but I seem to remember an ASU touchdown pass where the receiver clearly pushed off of the corner. I think Conroy Black or Ryan Lacey. I was at the game so I didn’t get the luxury of seeing multiple slow motion replays. I also noticed they almost never called holding on ASU, when there were some obvious holds.
5 turnovers is awful, the refs don’t play any part in that, but I almost want to become a conspiracy theorist and say that the BCS is paying the refs to make Utah look bad so they can prove their point. I feel like Utah will have a pretty big hangover for the Pitt game but they looked terrible yesterday too so if the Utes win that one, I think they lose to Cal and then hopefully win out after they fix some things. I’d rather see Jon Hays than Wynn right now. Hays moves the chains, turnovers or not. After some more experience I think he will have a lot fewer turnovers. When Wynn is 100%, full strength and fixes his throwing motion, that’s when I’d like to see him again.
Sadly, I saw that too
Utes lost because of 5 turnovers to 0. However, the refs were awful. Watching the DVR (sadly) the Cullen hold on the 74 yd pass play was mostly a result of the DL grabbing Cullen’s arm under his and flailing. Also, the almost INT in the end zone before Rogers caught it on 3rd down, Dunn was totally grabbed and the DB slingshot himself into position for the INT – at least he dropped it.
Utes got a crucial hands to the face penalty that led to ASU’s first TD. Martinez just got his pushing motion too high, incidental. However, there was another play where a Shelby’s helmet ended up almost to ASU’s sideline and being torn off and tossed, but no flag. What’s with the rule where ASU gets a personal foul and an unsportsmanlike but both are offset by a single personal foul by Utah? Does that mean once there are offsetting PF calls, just go ape a guy since it will all offset anyway?
Worst of all, did anyone notice on multiple occasions that Ute ball carriers lost their shoe after a tackle? That was psycho Vontaze Burfict tearing off shoes and throwing them when he tackled someone.
oh nooooo!!
You’ve uncovered our vast conspiracy against the utes.
Was the officiating as bad as it felt?
…sitting in the muss with a bunch of other college guys + lack of decent replays (or dvr) makes things pretty biased and every call against us is an evil plot so I can’t really be sure haha.
Pac-12 refs are too incompetent to favor one side over the other
Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - R. Feynman
by GBB4188 on Oct 9, 2011 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
^^^^^ TRUTH ^^^^^^
After 5 or 15 or 50 years, Utah and Colorado fans too will figure this out.
by ConfofChamps on Oct 9, 2011 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Our current problems in descending order:
1A-QB- Problems are well-documented
1B- Offensive line- Can’t open holes in the run game, below average pass protecters. Undisciplined in regards to penalties and assignments.
2- Secondary- Inexperience around the board. We have corners who are track guys that don’t know how to play football. If you see a corner in coverage who consistently never looks for the ball so he can make a play on it, you’ve got a corner with no instincts and no ball skills=no interceptions and a lot of big plays and P.I.‘s
3- We have one game ready BCS conference calibre RB in the program. Most schools have at least 2, and you should have 3 to be a Top 25 team.
4- This group has shown a lack of discipline with their emotions. Re: Abundance of personal foul penalties. The momentum in the UW game changed onNai Fotu’s bonehead penalty, and ASU does not score their first half TD without the help of Devonte and the hands to the face penalty on 3rd down. And then the hits kept comin’.
What did Devonte do?
And why don’t the SR’s get benched for the penalties? Cullen and Martinez should be experienced enough to not do that and they both made costly penalties
by PhuckthePhillies on Oct 9, 2011 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Didn't see what Devonte did.
Broadcast only shows him ten yards away from any ASU defender when White crosses the goal line. So if he hit someone, it was way late.
And regarding the RB situation, they are very young but like you said inexperienced. In a couple years this group should be really good
RB’s in the future not including Wolfman- Harvey, Thretton, Lucky, Jerell Oliver
It would help if Langi got more than 2 plays a game. Thretton and Langi should at least be in on short yardage and goal line situations
by PhuckthePhillies on Oct 9, 2011 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Thretton for sure...
The dude is what? 6-3, 235?
by BetterasIgetolder on Oct 9, 2011 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Are they going to redshirt Thretton?
Or is he getting playing time on special teams?
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He is on special teams. I’m not for sure if he plays all of them but I know he is on kick off and punt return.
And he doesn’t have a redshirt year anyway
by PhuckthePhillies on Oct 9, 2011 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions

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