UTES ROLL BRUINS, BOWL ELIGIBLE FOR NINTH STRAIGHT SEASON
by JazzyUte on Nov 12, 2011 8:32 PM MST
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After the game, all I could think about is "what if"...
What if we had just let the defense win games for us after Wynn went down? What if Hays & the offense learned the JWIV formula sooner, rather than forcing Hays to pass so often in those first games after the Wynn injury?
This is a “good” team. I think we’re on track to the Vegas Bowl, where we can prove it vs. a ranked TCU…and if we do, I think at 9-4, we have a shot at getting ranked.
…but with just 1 more win, we could be talking about a possible Pac12 South crown…and I don’t think we’re that far from that good team, if only we figured it out sooner…
Utah probably isn't on track to the Vegas Bowl...
Unless they lose to Wazzu or Colorado. Right now, I think they’re pegged for the Holiday or Sun.
Only the Rose is a lock for a certain team...
The rest doesn’t fit to any criteria, really. It’s why Arizona played in the Alamo last year, even though they weren’t the ‘2nd’ best team in the conference.
My guess:
Rose – Oregon
Orange – Stanford (they’ll make a BCS bowl, even with one-loss, I think, especially if Bama goes to the NC)
Alamo – ASU
Holiday – Utah
Sun – Washington
Vegas – Cal
Would we jump Washington?
Likely both teams finish 8-4…UW has a soft end to the season.
Sun Bowl…bleh.
I'll keep hoping for Vegas...
…but only if we get there undefeated & thanks to the Pac12 only getting 1 BCS game…
I think you’re right though, Stanford will probably go & we will end up at the Sun Bowl (I’m pretty sure Holiday will take Washington over us).
…let’s speculate…
BCS Championship – LSU/Okla St.
Fiesta – Oklahoma/Pitt (being hopeful on Pitt…prob WVU)
Rose – Oregon/Wisconsin
Sugar – Alabama/Houston
Orange – Clemson/Stanford? (could a 2 loss Big10 team get the nod over 1 loss Stanford?)
…I really hope Vegas though…short drive…we could claim we would be undefeated if we were in the MWC if we won… :-p
I don't want Vegas again...
I want something new. Sun would be nice. Holiday would be better.
I’d rank ’em…
Holiday >> Sun >> Vegas
by JazzyUte on Nov 12, 2011 9:52 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Quality of competition would be better @ Vegas Bowl...
It’s not like we’re BYU & have gone 4 straight years. I could do a repeat. Plus, we need some revenge…
Definitely prefer Holiday to all though…let’s hope Washington loses again!
I want something different too.
as far as i know Utah has never played in the holiday bowl?
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 13, 2011 7:10 AM MST up reply actions
Nope...
Shoulda in ‘94, but we shat the bed against New Mexico and AFA (hell, we shoulda made a run at a New Year’s Bowl that year…)
The Freedom Bowl was a great game though...
Probably my 2nd favorite game I’ve attended…above the Fiesta Bowl.
You gotta be kidding me
After being tied to the Vegas Bowl for eons in the MWC… and having all BYU fans taunting us with ’you’re going to the vegas bowl anyway’… you WANT to go there?
You want to go to Vegas instead of a better-paying, higher-profile, completely new bowl like the Sun?
No chance.
Read below...I agree with all the comments.
…and for the “taunting”…beating TCU is much more likely to get us ranked over the #4 ACC school.
Not to mention that it shuts BYU fans up who think that if Nelson was the QB that they would have beaten us.
Still not a good enough reason...
And I don’t think we’d beat TCU. In fact, I think it’d be a similar result to last year’s Vegas Bowl.
Really...after seeing the BYU game?
BYU puts up 28 points with a Riley Nelson led offense. Granted, I like the competitive nature that Nelson brings to their offense…but TCU ‘08-’10 wouldn’t have given up more than 10 points defensively.
They’re averaging 23.6 points against their D…and that’s with a relatively soft schedule (Sagarin has them at 55th right now, and that will go down with CSU & UNLV coming up).
Sure their offense looks good…but again, MWC. Pachall is a Soph, and I’m sure our blitz schemes would get to him, force him into mental errors.
We could grind out a win vs. them. I’m convinced of it. I had no hope we would beat Boise St. last year.
I agree with Middy that TCU is vulnerable, but disagree about wanting to go to the Vegas Bowl.
The Holiday Bowl would be my first choice as it’s a game that Utah has never been to and San Diego is a beautiful destination for a late December game. The fifth choice Big-12 team will be beatable but will also garner respect.
But TCU isn’t as good as they have been. Their defense is suspect and it’s their offense that is winning them games. Whit and Sitake could put together a game plan that would get us the win.
As for what BYU fans will say, there really isn’t anything that will shut them up so lets go to the best bowl possible.
Holiday isn't going to happen unless ASU loses out...
…and as much as I hope for it, I just don’t see it happening.
My thoughts are based against either the Sun or Vegas bowl.
Sure it could happen.
If both Oregon and Stanford go to BCS bowls, it’s definitely doable. After them, USC has the best overall record, but we can ignore them. Then there are 4 teams with 6–4 records.
If Utah can manage to win their final two games, 8–4 could be very appealing for the Holiday Bowl. Remember, the Holiday Bowl has the third CHOICE, not necessarily the team that is in third place in the Pac-12 standings. And if both Oregon and Stanford go to BCS bowls, then the Holiday Bowl has fourth choice after the Alamo Bowl.
The Holiday Bowl may prefer Washington or Arizona State, but only if they win their final two games. If only one of them wins out, expect that team to go to the Alamo Bowl, leaving the Holiday Bowl in play.
This is all hypothetical, of course. Utah has a chance to win out, but I’m not taking it for granted.
Also, Washington played in the Holiday Bowl last year...
That could factor into their decision process.
Completely agree.
Keep in mind that the attendance was subpar last year despite UW playing Nebraska who travels very well (possibly the best traveling fanbase in the country.)
Another factor I didn’t mention, is what happens if ASU gets blown out in the championship game. Might that make them less appealing?
With no non-AQ likely to be eligible (LOL BSU!), Fiesta gets the first pick in the at-large pool.
They’ll take ’furd, guaranteed.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 15, 2011 12:04 AM MST up reply actions
Actually there is a likely AQ BCS team
Right now Houston is a guaranteed pick.
Should Houston Lose, TCU only needs to climb three spots, and since I don’t see any Big East team climbing from unranked to ahead of TCU, then it would go to TCU.
Less likely, but technically still a chance is If TCU loses out and Boise State wins out, BSU gets it.
err... Likely non-AQ bcs team
I forgot another scenario if Southern Miss wins out, beats Houston in the C-USA championship game, climbs above TCU & above 16, and no Big East team gets ahead them, then Souther Miss would get the BCS bid.
So right now there are 4 legitimate Non-AQ teams with a BCS bid, until next week when Boise officially is eliminated.
I think
There will be a non-AQ. Looks like Houston right now. Good for them; they have had one of the best offenses in the country for years… hopefully they can give their opponent a game. I know I’ll be rooting for them.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 15, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
Would love to see Keenum shred an AQ team
by khaostheory117 on Nov 15, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Won't Happen
I like Keenum, but Houston is looking like this year’s version of 2007 Hawaii. Most likely they’d get stuck in the Sugar Bowl against Alabama.
Of course, we all know what happens to Alabama in Sugar Bowls
Agreed...
Houston has no defense. Great offense, but I think, like the Warriors in ‘07, it’ll be held in check by a decent BCS team.
That is, of course, they go up against the BE champion…
Honestly...
… I’m not convinced they escape the next three weeks unscathed.
They are seeing a big uptick in competition
Sagarin rankings has UCLA as their best, at 61… so no one in the top half. Next three weeks are all 20-30.
Should be fun to watch; they would struggle with Alabama, but against OU or Oklahoma State… that would be a FUN game.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 16, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Sun Bowl bleh????
Seriously????
It’s better than Vegas Bowl, Armed Forces Bowl, Poinsettia Bowl, Independence Bowl, or New Mexico Bowl
Fiesta gets first pick. They'll take 'furd if the Tree doesn't lose another.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 15, 2011 12:00 AM MST up reply actions
UGH no Vegas Bowl
TCU goes to the Vegas Bowl unless they lose. I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t really look forward to playing the Horned Frogs in a bowl game. I think they would pound us again.
BTW Where does Boise State end up as the 2nd place team from the MWC?
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 9:59 PM MST up reply actions
I missed the BYU-TDS game
Saw they only beat TDS by 10, but then they just beat Boise in Boise.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:05 PM MST up reply actions
Boise was bound to lose...
TCU isn’t as good this year last year, not by a mile, but they’re very well coached.
I don’t want to play ‘em. Not this year. I’d rather do a bowl we’ve never seen before. Give me the Sun over Las Vegas against a ACC team.
I didn't think Boise would lose this year
Funny it was a FG again.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed about Sun
El Paso is place I’ve never been. I’d like to check it out. And definitely an ACC team over TCU.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
I have been...you aren't missing anything.
Unless you like to haggle, then you should go to Juarez & you will be in heaven.
"you should go to Juarez"
If you would like to die at the hands of narco gangs, then you should go to Juarez, and you will literally be in heaven if you have lived a moral life.
FIFY
by ginfizzbear on Nov 12, 2011 10:58 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
+1
[shameless self promotion] You are always welcome to visit my blog @ bigbenstechnicalfoul.blogspot.com, I always try to make it fun and enjoyable. I most often talk teams in Utah, but I also like to talk national stuff. [/shameless self promotion]
by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 13, 2011 8:15 AM MST up reply actions
I think that's their tourist campaign...
“Come to Juarez and have your head sent to your loved ones in a box…”
El Paso over anything else; No thanks!
I lived there for 3 years while in the military. There’s nothing there and Juarez is a place to just stay away from. I’ll take Sin City or San Diego any day of the week over El Paso every time no matter how much $ lost.
By the way I think we’re all forgetting one important fact and that’s who makes the final bowl decisions. In the end of it all Utah is going to be looked at as a great rivalry for any MWC team and a draw for fans and viewers. That makes us a target for Vegas.
Regardless I’m just shocked, impressed and excited that the players stepped up and the coaches never gave up and we’ve made the 6 Ws! Amazing considering where we were just a few weeks ago.
by Unexpected Ute on Nov 13, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
Utah vs. Utah State
Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl???
http://cfn.scout.com/2/557866.html
yeah
whoever made that projection is an idiot. The only way it happens is if we lose out.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
Considering Where we were a few weeks ago..
.. This is quite the first season in the Pac-12
Juan Blanco Record Watch
The single season rushing record for Utah is 1507
White entered the game with 1024. He needed to average 161 per game to break it in the regular season, or 120.75 to break it with the bowl game.
33 rushes for 167 yards puts Wolfman at 1191 yards. That’s a 316 yard differences.
Needed to break in Regular Season: 158
Needed to break with Bowl Game: 105.3
BTW
Washington State entered the week as the 72nd ranked rushing defense, Colorado the 108th.
yes but . . .
They had to play two dimensional teams to this point. Do not be surprised if both stack the box and tell hays to beat them, or if we don’t end up pounding them with defense. With our O line this year, we can’t expect every game to be a snow day run fest. Wazzu and Colorado both are cold weather teams.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman
"I'm not upset about the U allegations," tweeted Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez, who pitched at Miami. "I'm mad we didn't win anything while we were cheating."
What and Oregon State, UCLA and Arizona didn't try that same tactic
Begging Hays to beat teams isn’t exactly a new concept. The book on the Utes has been written for many weeks. Yet they’ve managed to still get three wins. It’s not like Colorado and Wazzu get some secret that wasn’t available to OSU, UCLA, Az and Pitt.
And it’s not about whether those team can stack the box. It’ll come down to Utah not turning the ball over and giving their defense some rest.
Utah has forced teams to respect the pass, even with Hays
That is why they continue to run the ball well. Hays isn’t a fantastic passer, but he’s good enough to force teams to respect the run, which is why White is doing so well.
You don’t have White’s numbers without a decent passing threat.
I think our WR's have forced teams to respect the pass
Hays isn’t a fantastic passer, but our WR’s can get behind the defense, and then it’s just a matter of putting it where they can catch it.
One thing I’ll give Hays credit for, is that since ASU’s he’s had a knack of putting it where our WR’s can get it, or an overthrow.
A recruiting steal
Fall camp, I think a lot of people had him pegged behind Palamo and Langi. The guy has been our entire offense since Wynn went down. He just keeps getting better and stays so low to the ground to pick up those extra couple of yards. I think he’ll break the record.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 9:52 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed...possibly best JC transfer in Utah history...
…and we’ve had a lot of good ones. I can’t wait to watch him next year! He’s only getting better.
Langi looks like he could get some “beast mode” going in 2 years as well. Excited about the prospects of the 2012 season already!
IF...
If we have a healthy Wynn for the entire season with our entire receiving corps returning and White in the backfield. That could be downright scary.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:15 PM MST up reply actions
Add two more
We’ll have Denham and the Josh Gordon to add some depth. I think the only loses on offense are both starting tackles.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:18 PM MST up reply actions
And we get SC at home...
I’m excited for next year!
by JazzyUte on Nov 12, 2011 10:18 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Me too.
Could be a special year depending on QB play and of course staying healthy. We do take some big hits on defense though. Most notably Shelby and Walker but also Martinez, Aiono, JJ Williams, Fotu, Black, and Finau.
That is most of our starting LBs and a lot of depth from the DL.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:24 PM MST up reply actions
Black has really stepped his game up...
I thought he would be the second coming of Arnold Parker…but I really like him now.
Even with losing him though, we have a good group. Mo Lee has stepped up, Lacy is a gamer, and Rowe looks great for a RS freshman. If McGill actuall pans out, this could be a top notch secondary next year.
I just like that he's finally turning his head.
Through the first half of the season, he would never try to turn his head to find the ball, despite a lot of times being in really good position.
Yes
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman
"I'm not upset about the U allegations," tweeted Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez, who pitched at Miami. "I'm mad we didn't win anything while we were cheating."
U$C is going to lose barkley, there best RB and they lost they five star RB recruit. he left the program
i don’t even know who there second string qb is and he does not have much playing time in FBS football. plus another year of 15 lost schlolarships. this is the trojsans last hurrah for the next 4 or 5 years. at best next year they go 7-6 if they caught some lucky breaks and won there bowl game but i think they wil go 5-7
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 13, 2011 7:16 AM MST up reply actions
Langi slowly starting to look good
I’ve been unimpressed in the early part of the season with Langi. It was obvious why he plummeted down the depth chart, and didn’t get many carries.
That said, his running style seems to be a bit more confident the last few games.
part of that
was our O line, they are having their moments, but some games they get mauled.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman
"I'm not upset about the U allegations," tweeted Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez, who pitched at Miami. "I'm mad we didn't win anything while we were cheating."
There were OL issues, but a lot was on Langi
He was tentative to hit the hole, hadn’t adjusted to speed, and would make dumb running mistakes, like not paying attention to the sideline.
But the last few games, he has ran with confidence, which even in his limited carries, there has been a noticeable difference.
I haven’t really paid attention to if he’s had any chances to do blitz pickup though.
Let him play
Langi started the season confused and unsure of himself on the few plays he did get in the game. The last two games show he’s been working and is ready to play. I love our back package with WIV, Langi and Asiata. Langi needs more game time and looks like he is going to be someone other teams hate to see week to week.
Our OL has stepped up and I’ll step up and appologize to 74 & 77 for turning their game play around. Almost penalty free and the nice pass and run blocking combo has been key to our wins.
by Unexpected Ute on Nov 13, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Brenner has been solid all year
It was more of Tony,Mason and Cullen not performing
by PhuckthePhillies on Nov 13, 2011 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Transformation
I am amazed how Utah football 2011 has reinvented itself. Going from a balanced offense that relied on its defense to a HARD NOSE TOUGH running team that still relies on its defense. Credit to the coaching staff for completing this incredible change.
Transformation II
-And credit to our run D (except for the game against UW)
-John White IV, what a load
- Our offensive line for coming around! (John Cullen – I have been bagging on you all year, nice job of dragging JW almost into the endzone)
- Heck the whole Utah team
Your not that far away from
I’m directly behind that goal post.
I'm about 100' to your right
And about 10 rows back.
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
You're my mirror
I’m right above the N21 portal
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
Meant for Middy
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
had a great time
but that first half was cooooooold.
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
I know, wasn't it great!!!
That was awesome football weather.
Washington Sts 3rd string QB beautiful TD pass
The Cougars just scored again on ASU to take the lead in the 3rd quarter. The Utah secondary is going to have their work cut out for them next week.
ASU just took the lead back
and it’s only the second quarter
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions
I was also surprised we hit 45K fans
I saw lots of empty sections from where I was sitting
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
It is...
Of course, should be pointed out that the SE corner is almost always empty because the students push forward once the game starts, kinda like at the pit at a concert – but yeah, that was only half the reason. The other half dealt with weather. It was a miserable first half.
That's pretty sad we still can't fill a 45,000 seat stadium
Especially in our first year in the PAC 12.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
Meh...
With weather like this, I’m surprised we had near the crowd we had. A few years ago, against a 5-4 team, we would’ve had 30,000.
A 5-4 team in the MWC isn't the same as a 5-4 Pac12 team...
…which accounts for some of the difference…but I’m sure we all recognize that.
I was disappointed in the MUSS though. Made me feel like they’re getting to be a little “fair weather”. It wasn’t that bad either. I have been to much colder games, and the snow was pretty much non-existent once the 1st Q was over.
That's the problem, tho...
The snow was happening well before the game started. That deters people from going, especially students. Not cool, obviously, but it is what it is. We’re still a growing program.
Had the snow happened in the second half, we’re probably seeing more butts in the seats because they’re already at the stadium.
They need more on campus housing
That is one way to solve that problem, as far as I’m concerned.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:27 PM MST up reply actions
I like your gear comment...
I was great…and it wasn’t even my warmest coat. Wore snow pants & a waterproof shell. Good times!
Very true
The weather caused a lot of those empty seats.
Fans are getting better in my opinion
I think overall the fans are getting better each week with regard to being more like a BCS level. In the past a lot of the conservativism of the state and SLC in general has carried over to our fans. They’ve always been quite calm. But lately in my seating area we seem to have more and more people standing up at more than just the key times to yell and raise hell (respectfully). In fact I was shocked at one of the home games (I think it was ASU) when the opposing players were turning and taunting the fans relentlessly and eventually it got a little ugly and the fans were throwing drinks down on the players. I don’t really condone that, but it was awesome to see our fans stand up for themselves and our team.
Last night we didn’t have a full house but we sounded good. I was disappointed in the MUSS showing their definite sign of weakness with a large chunk of no shows. The weather was actually not that cold and even if was the student section for any team is the backbone of great fan support.
One last note; the tailgating was weak too. In stead of turning the adverse conditions into something fun many decided to watch the game at home. All that does is lead to black outs on TV, so we as fans need to be there rain, snow or shine.
by Unexpected Ute on Nov 13, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Exactly why the leaders of the University aren't in a hurry to expand
And if they do it’ll only be by about 5k.
There's a saying in New Zealand that I love.
There is no such thing as bad weather, you just have the wrong gear….
I’m back East and missed the first half. How cold was it? I saw the remnants of snow.
The 2nd half was more tolerable than the first...
It started snowing heavily around 2 and didn’t let up until about the half. This was right before the game started:
HAHA
Wow… I read somewhere online, that it was the first snow game UCLA has played in about 30 years. Not sure how accurate that info is.
Wouldn't surprise me...
ESPN’s College Football Twitter account even had a trivia question asking when the last Pac-12 snow game was.
No answer, tho.
has next years game with U$C been scheduled. i would love to get them on a snowy day.
did anybody else noticed that colorado beat zona pretty easily. the weather might turn out to be a 2 game advantage if we have the right scheduling.
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 13, 2011 7:25 AM MST up reply actions
I remember them playing amongst snow @ Wazzu just a few years ago. Maybe they mean snow actively falling from the sky.
Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - R. Feynman
Yeah, I'm sure that's what they meant...
This was actually the first game in a long time here that I remember it snowing this badly and sticking on the playing field during action.
Washington St. QB
Kid already has 336 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 INTs. And there is still 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
by UteinBrooklyn on Nov 12, 2011 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
Holy mackeral
I thought you were joking.
But no. This team is surging in the south and really is bowl eligible. I left you guys for dead after getting massacred by Cal.
Most of us felt that way too
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
WSU is looking tuff... Won't be an easy win...
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 12, 2011 11:00 PM MST reply actions
WSU looks like they're going to pull it off.
Their freshman QB makes next week a lot more interesting…
Could ASU lose out & we end up in the Pac12 championship?
A man can dream, right? If only we had 1 more conference win…
I think that they just might.
They have their rivalry game next week with Arizona and the Wildcats would love nothing better than to ruin their hated rival’s season. They have Cal the last week of the season, and everyone knows they are capable of being a pretty good team.
Wassu's back is against the wall...
…in terms of bowl eligibility. That alone makes them dangerous…
However, I think this Utah team has turned the corner. They have figured out how & what they need to do to win. It may be a close game, but I suspect we will win. Let’s not let “The Grind” get us! One game at a time baby!
Wow, theoretically, you guys are now still in the race for the south
Odds are long though.
IF:
Utah beats Washington St and Colorado
AND
Arizona St loses to Arizona and Cal
AND
UCLA doesn’t beat USC
Utah wins the Pac-12 South.
Unlikely but…well, shoot for the moon?
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
Just looked this up...
In the event that three teams are tied, the following criteria shall be used as tiebreakers to determine who will represent the division in the championship game:
Collective head-to-head record among all tied teams
Record of the tied teams within the division
BCS component
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So if ASU loses to Arizona, they have 2 South losses.
If UCLA beats USC, they have 2 South losses.
Utah has 2 South losses right now.
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If BYU & Pitt win out, wouldn’t Utah have the better BCS standing? They would have 1 more win than both ASU & UCLA, plus their OOC wins look like the best of the bunch…
Multiple scenarios that get us to Eugene!
Sagarin has ASU @ 28, Utah @ 34 after today's games...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm
…so if ASU lost to Arizona, we should jump them.
BCS standings won't come into play...
In your scenario, it wouldn’t come to that.
1. Collective head-to-head: UCLA is 1-1 against Utah/ASU; Utah is 1-1 against UCLA/ASU; ASU is 1-1 against Utah/UCLA
So we move to two…
2. Division record
One point: If UCLA beats SC, they’ll win the division outright, unless they lose to Colorado, but it doesn’t matter who the Bruins lose to – either Colorado or Trojans, both will count as one loss in the division.
So UCLA beats SC and the Buffaloes, they’re in regardless of what Utah and Arizona State do.
If UCLA drops either game, they’ll have three losses in Pac-12 South play (Utah, Arizona and USC/Colorado).
That eliminates them and we go back to the head-to-head tiebreaker, which the Sun Devils own over the Utes.
So Utah needs ASU to lose out.
Exactly
Like I said.
Utah needs to win out
ASU needs to lose out (and to two teams that they definitely CAN beat)
And UCLA needs to just not pull off a miracle and beat USC.
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
Congratulations!
That’s a big win for the Utes. And I’ll bet a memorable one.
Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
BuildingTheDam.Com
Go Beavs!
Congrats, Utes
You played very well, and we showed why our program is such a mess.
Good luck going forward.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
UCLA still controls its own fortunes in the Pac-12 South.
BEAT Colorado and USC!
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 13, 2011 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
Classy
Thank you for giving us some credit and proving to me that you guys are actually all right.
I had a preconceived notion that you had more in common with BYU fans than I had originally thought; some clown named TJ Simers from the LA Times had the audacity to write an article last night saying: “But what a belly flop, a 31-6 spanking coming from a second-rate opponent, and a reminder that nothing really has changed with UCLA football since Neuheisel’s arrival.”
TJ is an idiot
he just writes inflammatory remarks about everyone possible to get everyone riled up and increase his traffic.
That being said, if in his article (I didn’t and won’t read it) he calls for new leadership at UCLA – then I agree with him…but still think he’s an asshat.
I should be working right now...
We despise Simers ourselves
The LA Times is a shallow propaganda mouthpiece for Southern Cal, and is a mere shadow of the paper that once featured Jim Murray. While I agree that U.C.L.A. desperately needs new leadership (see our Q&A with JazzyUte last week), Simers doesn’t get any credit for discovering that giant secret.
I saw his comment about Utah and immediately felt badly for you guys because it is patently unfair, but this is how they treat everyone except their precious trogans.
And with all due respect (which usually means you’re about to disrespect someone) to BYU fans, we have nothing in common with BYU fans.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
On the whole, I've been impressed by UCLA fans this week...
They’ve certainly smashed some preconceived ideas I had of ’em.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Thanks, and same to you guys, Jazzy
I think everyone likes having Bruins fans around right now, as our misery and self-loathing is making everyone else feel pretty good about themselves in comparison. ;-)
Well, except for Cal.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Your I Hate Utah post after the game was pretty funny
Had me laughing pretty good. I feel bad for Bruins fans, even if this is the exact misery I predicted they’d be in when Slick Rick was hired.
I only saw one disrespectful UCLA fan on "Bruin Nation"...
…and it seemed like all of the regulars jumped down his throat for making disparaging comments.
You run a good blog over there!
wooooooooooooo
this win felt good and was badly needed IMO. a bonus was finiding out the potato people lost to tcu.
just a wonderful day overall :-)
alot of negativety on the OBNUG blog. two years in a row a FG does them in.
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 13, 2011 7:29 AM MST up reply actions
i do feel sorry for whoever has to play them in the poinsettia bowl. lol.
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 13, 2011 7:30 AM MST up reply actions
That's what I kept telling the BSU trolls...
There are some good Bronco people that were fine. But then you had a few trolls taunting us at the end of the Vegas Bowl and I remember telling them to enjoy their obscurity and trips to Vegas or worse.
They shot back that they’d be playing in BCS bowls anyway, so it was moot. Well, no, no it’s not. BSU just found out why it sucks still being a non-BCS team: one loss kills your season.
The Broncos went from being in the NC picture (especially had they won with Stanford losing), to now hoping for the Poinsettia Bowl. Snooze!
Now look at Utah, though very, very unlikely, they’re still alive for the Rose Bowl. Imagine that.
Actually
Boise was 11th in the USA today poll. Houston was 10th. There’s a chance that computers and Harris poll voters put Boise ahead of Houston, meaning they’d still qualify for a BCS bowl.
Even if they are behind Boise, should Houston lose, Boise would get the bid.
Boise/Houston are both in possible qualifying positions two ways. Top 12, and Top 16 with a champion of an AQ conference (Big East) Below them.
wrong
BCS bids only go to conference winners. TCU won’t lose in the MWC this year.
Anywhere I could watch a replay of the game?
was exhausted and passed out at half time
by khaostheory117 on Nov 13, 2011 11:29 AM MST reply actions
No, sadly...
I wish the official website would archive the live streams, but it doesn’t appear they have. :/
damn :/ that sucks
they really should archive them
by khaostheory117 on Nov 13, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
go to Utahutes.com
you can rewatch the whole thing. KJZZ has been posting all home games that they broadcast. It must not have been posted when Jazzy looked.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
perhaps I spoke too soon
it is up there, but says it has not been archived yet. look for it tomorrow or wednesday at the latest.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
you can watch
every home game that KJZZ has broadcast. its on utahutes.com
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
here is the link
http://utahutes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/utah-m-footbl-sched.html
click on any game that has been
a) at home
b) televised by KJZZ.
to the right should appear with details on that game. you will have a bar to scroll down. scroll down to under “gametracker” and there will be a “watch” button. There you go!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
as of this posting
2:30 on monday, the UCLA game has not been posted. But the Oregon State and Montana state games have been and are still available for your viewing pleasure.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Game Intro
I recorded this from the top if anyone’s interested :)
Really an amazing season....
So many ups and downs, excited about every single game every week, facing incredible adversity and turning it around. This season is a testament to coach Whitt, and the program. Losing Wynn, and still having at 8-4, and long shot at Pac 12 championship game is pretty amazing. I hope every year in Pac 12 is as exciting as this one, just maybe with less bumpy roads.
by notblue19 on Nov 13, 2011 6:07 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Really an amazing season....
So many ups and downs, excited about every single game every week, facing incredible adversity and turning it around. This season is a testament to coach Whitt, and the program. Losing Wynn, and still having at 8-4, and long shot at Pac 12 championship game is pretty amazing. I hope every year in Pac 12 is as exciting as this one, just maybe with less bumpy roads.
by notblue19 on Nov 13, 2011 6:07 PM MST via mobile reply actions
USA Today Poll
So did anyone notice we got 2 votes this week?
We’re coming back!
You know what pisses me off
Had we took our time on the USC field goal, most likely make it. Have momentum going into OT and Kiffin would find a way to screw up and lose; we would have had a much better shot at this Pac12 South title.
Woulda coulda shoulda but just think about it, grrrrr
by PhuckthePhillies on Nov 13, 2011 9:17 PM MST reply actions
Realistically
We are looking at the Vegas Bowl. Considering that the bowl committees focus more on fan base and attendance rather than record, even if we do win out, how appealing would our traveling fan base be? Especially since we are new to the Pac, these committees may rather see a traditional pac team with a worse record with a proven traveling fan base. Although I know we would travel well (Sugar, Fiesta for example) but how “sexy” would the matchup be to the viewers. As much as I hate to say it, I can see us being passed up all the way down to the Vegas.
The newness might actually work in the Utes favor
That newness, could also represent a “fresh” matchup/team. One the bowl hasn’t seen before, therefore bringing new blood.
Jazzy,
I love the little videos with these articles. This was one of the best! Thanks!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 14, 2011 10:24 AM MST reply actions
haha, glad you liked it...
I found it earlier last week and was hoping I’d be able to use it with a win.
The Ric Flair one is still my favorite.
In fact, I may go watch it some more.
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
JWIV says...
…aw man! …at the beginning of any sentence.
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