Utes look for strong finish to inaugural Pac-12 season
Utah football can climb to .500 in Pac-12 play with a victory over Washington State Saturday. More importantly, they can guarantee the program a ninth straight winning season - the longest such stretch since Ike Armstrong roamed the sidelines during the Roosevelt era.
That all seemed unlikely a few weeks ago when the Utes dropped to 0-4 in the Pac-12 and sat at 3-4 on the season. Since their defeat to Cal, though, everything's gone right for the streaking Utes and they hope that carries over into this weekend's contest against the now hot Cougars.
Washington State, of course, is coming off a stunning victory over the Arizona State Sun Devils, a team that soundly beat Utah earlier in the year. The victory revived bowl hopes for the struggling program and though they will need to win out (against a schedule that includes Utah & Washington, so no easy task), it at least gives them something to play for this late in the season. The last time Wazzu played a truly meaningful game in November was in 2007 - or Bill Doba's final season in Pullman. The Cougars would finish 5-7 and the losing season all but sealed Doba's fate.
Paul Wulff finds himself in a similar position this weekend. Another losing season, his fourth in four years, could ultimately spell his demise as Wazzu's head coach. I'm sure his team knows this and, as is always the case when you're facing a coach on the hot seat, the closer you get to the end of the season, the more likely it is the team circles their wagons.
Sensing their backs are against the wall, it's not hard to imagine the Cougars throw everything possible at Utah.
It doesn't hurt that they've got a bit of momentum out of last weekend's game. Of course, UCLA found themselves in a similar spot last week and it didn't help them much in their 31-6 loss to the Utes.
Maybe we'll see something similar play out tomorrow?
For Utah, a victory would give them their first truly impressive win streak since rattling off eight straight last year. It would also give them a winning road record on the season (4-2), which, all things considered, would be pretty damn impressive.
Victory would also help bolster Utah's bowl hopes. The more games the Utes win, the most enticing they are to the bigger bowl games. Some are even speculating Utah's lined up for a spot in the Holiday Bowl, which would be a fantastic first-year destination for the program.
A loss Saturday, though, and a game against the Big 12 (Texas, maybe?) could be replaced with a trip to the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl where they would play a ... WAC team.
No bueno.
So this is a pretty big game for both teams. Sure, the Utes have already guaranteed themselves a bowl berth, but this program is far enough along where we strive for more than just bowl games - even if, a few weeks ago, we didn't fully expect to play in the postseason.
Regardless of that, Utah is in good position to not only make a run at nine wins, but potentially play in a bowl game that pays out 1.3 million more than what they saw last year in the Las Vegas Bowl.
Not too shabby.
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Going to savor every bit of Utah Football that is left...
It’s going to be a long time after football is over till we have any sports locally worth watching with the nba lockout and the utes JV basketball squad getting beat up in the pac-12.
Pulling for us
Not just because I am a fan… that’s really the most interesting possible game. UCLA wouldn’t stand a chance, and we’ve already seen what ASU could do. There is a chance that Utah could slow down that Ducks offense… love to try.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 18, 2011 1:23 AM MST up reply actions
I think that Utah...
would do better against than about everybody else in the conference with the defense that they have. The theoretical Pac-12 Championship Game could be a match up of the league’s best offense vs. the league’s best defense. Now that would be a sight to see even at Autzen.
If our offense could keep from crapping the bed...
We’d probably be able to stay within two scores. :P
That would be an accomplishment, honestly
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
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LOL
They hung 53 on Stanford. No way Utah stands a chance.
But we can debate that further if and when that match up happens!
Hope anyone coming to the game this weekend enjoys Pullman!
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 18, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
I'll restore it, Jazzy:
USC hung 48 on them. And managed 23 against us (only 17 of those darn points should count111).
I think we could hold them to 35.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 18, 2011 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
And our offense would get us to 14...
but still, holding them to 35 would be pretty sweet.
Dream Killer
unfortunately is not my nickname.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 18, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
There should be an...
“Oregon” in there after “would do better against”. Stinking typos. Why doesn’t this website allow you to edit your posts?
Look at the weather for Saturday - Pullman, WA
high of 29 with 40% chance of snow
another chance for now though i don’t know how much of a advantage that would be playing it in the previous week since they’ve dealt with weather before, it’s not like they are ucla.
Holiday Bowl would be an incredible end to an otherwise lackluster season
I have wanted to go to the Holiday Bowl for years, ever since Utah starting going to Bowls on a consistent basis in 92. The closest was the 93 Freedom Bowl in Anaheim where CSU went to the Holiday Bowl. I can remember going to the beach near San Diego and seeing a lot of CSU fans. That was the start of my wish that Utah could get there. This year would be an awesome time to get there and play a good Big12 team. 9-4 with a Holiday Bowl win? I’ll take it.
been a very fun year.
i am just hoping we can win this game. if we do, i really think we are looking at the sun bowl! GO UTES!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 18, 2011 8:45 AM MST reply actions
You aren't going to drive over to Pullman for it?
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 18, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
I will eventually would like to make it to every Pac-12 Stadium (have only been to 6)
but this weekendI plan to watch the game from the comfort (and warmth) of my living room in Seattle before I head back to my other home in LA for the long weekend and to watch the Colorado game.
Stay warm on the other side of the state!
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 18, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
It's on FCS Atlantic.
CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!
by Craig Powers on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
FCS At;lantic? What about FCS West?!
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 18, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
Pullman is about as far east as you can get in Washington
So maybe Fox thinks it’s in on the East Coast. It’s hard to keep the Washingtons straight, you know.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com
Usually if you have one of the FCS channels, you have them all.
They don’t stick to the regional names very well.
CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!
by Craig Powers on Nov 18, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Nervous...
As usual. It’s snowing right now in Pullman, and they’re saying it should throughout the weekend up here.
Wazzu’s passing game scares me right now. Maybe the weather will neutralize it??? I don’t know. If it does, that certainly bodes well for us.
May Brian, Eric, Conroy, Mo, and Ryan have big games and multiple INT’s. May Star shove the center and whichever guard is helping down the skinny boys throat. May the DE’s tee off on this slight young man. May he feel the full force of 6’ 4"+, 270+.
As to our offense, may they play smart with the football. May IV go for 200+. May Davonte, Dres, Reggie and Kenneth keep the defense honest.
This is my hope…
I’ll be there with crimson and white bells on… GO UTES!!!
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 18, 2011 10:16 AM MST reply actions
Snow & cold ruins passing games...
WR’s can’t make their cuts to lose the DB. QB can’t grip the ball properly. O-line protection is limited as they can’t get their footing.
Conversely, it plays into the strengths of a power running game.
Example, last week’s game.
…so the more it snows, the better for us.
Also
The ball is much harder, which makes it bounce off your hands. Cold screws up the passing game in pretty much every imaginable way. Here’s to an 8 degree kickoff!
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
really?
it doesn’t appear so in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgRaqICshzI
not trying to be an ass just double checking
by khaostheory117 on Nov 18, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
I wasn't at the game, but a friend was...
According to him, it was clear the first quarter, snowed a bit during the second, and then turned into a fair amount of really cold rain during the fourth.
It was snowing pretty good throughout the entire game
Trust me

Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 18, 2011 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
False... At least nowhere near game time... In the afternoon yes, but not for too long...
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 18, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Does anybody know anything about Wazzu's defense?
Jazzy, did you do a Q&A with them?
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 18, 2011 10:17 AM MST reply actions
As for their defense...
It’s not great and not awful.Generally, they’re toward the middle of the Pac in most categories (8th in rushing defense, sixth in passing defense, 8th in scoring defense)…
Those total yardage numbers are skewed by the fact that WSU has played ball control offense in a lot of Pac-12 games.
Really, the defense is terrible.
CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!
by Craig Powers on Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
I had a dream last night...
We won the game by a large margin, and people in the media started to recognize us as a pretty good team.
I believe this was a premonition…GO UTES!
by Middy_U on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I made a modest prediction earlier on ESPN forums..
when i said Utah 23/13 WSU.. but the more i read, the greater I think the margin will be; if our defense is as stifling as its been, and we control that god forsaken turnover margin..
ASU made it to the bottom 10 on ESPN
maybe there is a chance they lose to Arizona after all
You're saying We have a chance!!!!
If anyone will gift wrap us a championship by default it Dennis Erickson and the Forkers.
and not just bottom 10
they’re in the bottom 5 with the likes of FAU, Akron, UNLV, and Tulane
by khaostheory117 on Nov 18, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
No. 5
Goes to the otherwise decent team that got embarrassed in the last week. They shuffle in and out, and aren’t the same week to week. He isn’t saying they are the fifth worst team.
You may already have known that… Pedanticman to the Rescue!!!!
Arizona could definitely beat them, though, in a rivalry game. So could Cal, they have the horses.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 18, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
A Bowl game against Texas..
Would be soooo sick. Then, upon winning, we could jizz all over the faces of BYU fans, whilst saying, “Oh durr, remember that time you guys ‘almost beat’ Texas, and then talked about it ALLLLLLLL YEAR?!”
Twoodst be glorious
Easy, buddy.
First, a bowl win against Texas is no guarantee. Second, I’m not really into jizzing on guy’s faces, but maybe that’s just me.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Nov 18, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
Everyone is welcome here at Block U
It’s Provo where you aren’t invited.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 18, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
He just said BYU fans
He didn’t say anything about “guys”….. just sayin, maybe there’s something going on in the back of your mind you need to let out… of the closet.
That's one of the reasons I want a match-up with TCU...
…and also because TCU will be higher ranked than Texas & we can get some revenge for the ’09 & ’10 embarrassments.
Yeah man...
The would destroy our very being.
Really?
Why are you so convinced of that. TCU’s defense just isn’t as good as years past. They are surrendering over 23 points a game.
I think a few Ute fans are psychologically beat-up from past TCU games and not basing that prediction on TCU’s team this year.
I am Desiree Washington and TCU is Mike Tyson...
Every time I see them, I get a bit of PTSD.
by JazzyUte on Nov 18, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Whit is 3–3 against TCU so I don’t think their mythological status is warranted. Playing them in a bowl would be a challenge, but all bowl opponents are going to be (unless we go to San Francisco.)
TCU is a TOUGH, Punishing Team
and that is just their cheerleaders.
They beat a very good Boise State team just last week (have you been away?), that beat humiliated us 26-3 last year. They did this on the road on BSU’s blue field where the Broncos hadn’t lost since the Carter Administration.
They may not be mythological status like a Zeus or the Gorgon, but I have no doubt they would beat us this year with our 60 yard passing team.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 18, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
Every year is different so, no, TCU did not beat the same team that beat Utah 26–3. They beat a different Boise State team.
The TCU of years past would never have lost to Baylor and SMU. And BYU wouldn’t have been a 10 point game and Wyoming an 11 point game.
Exactly...
While this TCU is good, they’re not “mythical” good…beat Wisconsin, finish ranked #2 good…
…but perception is that they’re still that good, and they’d be a huge feather in our cap if we pulled off the upset. I’d rather take a shot at a great 9-4 with the chance of humiliation again, than to watch us play some marginal ACC squad in El Paso to get to 9-4.
…and while Boise St. humiliated us, we had our chances to beat them last year…we just didn’t capitalize. Dropped passes, fumbles killed us. The Washington game this year reminded me of that…a game that easily could have swung the other way if we just had seized the momentum while it was there.
that is true
it surprised me but there was a sure lack of focus in that game vs. boise. like u said inexecusable dropped passes and fumbles. we could have been up early against them but failed big time.. which was pretty shocking for a whittingham team in a bowl game.
The legend that is Connor Halliday...
How many of us have seen him play? How many of us have watched the clips?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ojLWNJsWyR0
Thoughts? Opinions?
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 18, 2011 3:47 PM MST reply actions
Again... It snowed a bit during the day, but had stopped a few hours before game time...
Sure it looks dark while it shows them clear the field briefly, but you need to understand that it gets dark at 4 pm here… The second half of this game could be classified as a night game…
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 18, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
He's a good QB, no doubt...
But I want to see him against our defense before I start calling him a legend. ;-)
Utah contained Foles
And even Barkley to a lesser extent. I think they can do the same against Halliday. Sure, he’ll get some completions and have an ok day, but my money says he gets happy feet at the sound of Lotulelei, Shelby, Kruger, and Blechen.
Utah’s menu this year has the Roadkill Kittycat Special. I believe that will continue.
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
I didn't think he looked that great...
His balls are super high and take forever to come down. A lot of the balls he threw seemed to be to receivers in busted coverage, who had to stop to catch the ball. The speed of our DB’s should make a big difference.
I’m still nervous though…
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 18, 2011 5:09 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't want to go there
But since you did . . .
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
I agree with you, better
He’s got a hell of an arm, but his passes float, and he often under and over throws his receivers. Heads up DBs could have picked off 2 or 3 of those TD passes.
He doesn’t look that scary to me… and he’s so LITTLE.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 18, 2011 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
He'll be a good one..
Yes he caught on a hot streak in the 2nd half against a weak defense, but it was a impressive performance however you look at it. He was taking what the defense was giving him on short passes(he dumped it off to his backs a couple times) than he’d go for the long balls and was on target. Guy has a great arm. His passes weren’t always pretty but the WSU receivers did a fantastic job as well. And that worries me since I felt the Arizona offense receivers were kind of overhyped and dropped passes. Our secondary has to have a big game for us to win for sure.

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