UTES ABOVE .500, BEAT ARIZONA IN TUCSON
How 'bout that?!? Utah football is above .500 and ONE GAME AWAY FROM A NINTH STRAIGHT BOWL BERTH!
WOOHOO! LET'S ALL DANCE!
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Time to start scouting UCLA...
…this LSU/Alabama game is boring…
UCLA/ASU is on Vs. …in case you were wondering.
I'm also pulling for UCLA...because if we beat them, it looks more impressive if they're in control of the Pac-12 South.
Plus we probably get Neuheisel fired that way.
Does ANYONE want to win the BE?
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
The only thing more embarrassing than losing the Big East
is winning it… that gets you national press!
Scary...more indicative of how bad that conference is.
…why Boise St. wants to go there is beyond me. There is no way they’re keeping their AQ status.
Especially with all the travel that'll be involved...
It becomes a worse conference if Connecticut and Louisville bolt for another BCS league (ACC, Big 12).
I think they'll pull in some C-USA teams, but what do they bring?
Can the league hold on to its BCS status if all their BCS teams leave?
Who’s now the elite football program in the BE (not counting BSU), Louisville, Connecticut, Rutgers or Cincinnati?
My fear is big lawsuits
BCS status could be the first lawsuit that takes down the system. Sucks, now that we are in.
I don't know if there could be a lawsuit that takes down the BCS...
What would happen is the BCS leagues would just go form their own division.
You could be right.
Our batshit crazy legislators scare me into thinking that instead of taking care of business, they will waste state resources to take down the big-boy system of the BCS.
the plus side of BCS
is that it does create some big games, even if the access is unequal. I think the UTES have proved that we can hang, but strength of schedule makes a huge difference.
gotta love the PAC-12
except if you look at the whole picture
going after the bcs is hardly a waste of money. the insane amounts of money that would be brought in from a playoff system would be of great benefit to every school and with the way our economy is every bit of extra money is welcomed.
by khaostheory117 on Nov 5, 2011 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly...they'll survive as a conference...
…but they won’t keep AQ status. I don’t even think they’ll be stronger than the MWC.
You know you're in trouble
when Louisville bolting makes you a weaker conference
Just like TCU against Wyoming...
Did you watch that one? The Frogs fumbled at least three times in Wyoming’s red zone…still won, but yeesh.
No...didn't see that...Can't wait for the next 3 weeks in the MWC...it will prove if Boise St. is legit.
We're learning the answer is no.
A week after getting scared mightily by Air Force, the Broncos struggled for 3 quarters against UNLV. A legit #5 team shouldn’t be struggling to get a 14 point lead at the end of 3 against the Rebels.
If ASU wins...that's a joke.
Give them the time-out back…totally garbage. Reminds me of the USC/Utah game. Incompetent group.
I think they got the call right in the end
If there’s no penalty because the play was dead, you can’t take a time-out to avoid the penalty run-off. Though the Pac-refs are up to their usual shenanigans for sure
This win makes me post my favorite youtube vids!
Great victory by the Utes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG_fey4_ow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyC1BrQd6g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLpROhIg9eA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPhIVdQHCA (where I got my screen name. The meaning of salsa—Willie Colon)
Awesome game!
little disappointed by your gif Jazzy
Up to now, all of them had me laughing out loud (even in the heart breaking losses and blowouts)…..oh well, better luck next time. :)
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
To each his own ......
anyways great win tonight. Jon Hayes looked…..pretty good out there.
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
(tastes like vinegar coming out of my mouth)
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
This is crazy
If UCLA wins Pac-12 South…. and pulls the Champ game upset….
We will be a bigger joke than the Big East
I've got a better scenario!
ASU implodes, and loses to Cal, WSU, and Arizona. They finish the season 4-5 in conference play. We win out, beating UCLA. They also lose to USC… finishing the season 5-4 in conference play. We win it, and have the head-to-head tiebreaker against UCLA at 5-4!
Then we get our asses handed to us by Stanford! Huzzah!
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 6, 2011 1:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Funny thing is
Cal, WSU, and Arizona are all loseable games for ASU (maybe a 10, 15% chance they lose all three?). It’s not actually outside the realm of possibility.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 6, 2011 1:02 AM MDT up reply actions
We need to focus on UCLA more than anything
Neuheisel is going to want to prove he was right in the whole Chow escapade.
Plus that 6th win could very well be the difference between him having a job next year and the unemployment line. He’ll want to wrap that up as quickly as possible.
The players need to focus on UCLA
I am free to root against the Sun Devils. =]
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 6, 2011 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
Great win...
Solid game plan… A well called game… Here’s hoping that Hays can keep it up… I think he officially has more TD’s than INT’s.
by BetterasIgetolder on Nov 5, 2011 8:46 PM MDT reply actions
WTF JUST HAPPENED IN PASADENA
You guys need to beat them…. Save the Pac the embarrassment
Certainly.... Glad to Oblige.
I just checked the script with Uncle Larry and that is what is planned.
So if we had beaten Cal...
…and had only 3 losses…would we be in the hunt for the Pac-12 South?
I guess ASU would have the tie-breaker…so probably not…
So if we beat UCLA
what does that make the pac-12 south title race look like? seems like we have the ability to really throw a wrench in things
ASU back in the driver seat...
UCLA is in the lead because both have 2 losses, but beat ASU for the tie-breaker…
…I don’t see another loss on ASU’s schedule.
What do you mean?
Arizona >> UCLA > ASU
Therefore
Arizona >>> ASU
Right? Right? ;)
with how ASU plays its impossible to say who they could lose to
who would have ever imagined the losses to illinois and ucla?
by khaostheory117 on Nov 5, 2011 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
ya never know.
that’s why the game is played. not saying i think it will happen. but you never know
by khaostheory117 on Nov 5, 2011 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
You underestimate their ability to melt down.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 6, 2011 1:17 AM MDT up reply actions
WAAAAAYYYY Longshot
But if we beat UCLA and then they lose to USC all we need is AZ state to drop one more and Utah is in. Our chances of playing in the Rose Bowl just went from 0% to 5% with UCLA’s win tonight
No...we have 4 losses...and ASU control's the tie-breaker...
They only have 2 conferences losses right now.
It'd still be cool to finish tied with ASU at the top, even if we don't win anything for it.
by JazzyUte on Nov 5, 2011 9:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It'd be close
but I’d lean no, given SoS this year
Yeah...we needed Pitt to show better, I think...
…but who knows how the lower half of the top 25 shakes out.
Care to speculate who we’d play in the Sun Bowl?
Our SoS is top 25 according to sagarin
at least i think so
by khaostheory117 on Nov 5, 2011 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
It's dropping fast though...
Pitt lost, BYU is going down due to weak opponents…our opponents are soft going forward…
Plus, pollsters don’t give a crap about computers…they just see a Utah team with no wins vs. other top 25 teams.
We need our Sun Bowl opponent to be ranked…or to get sent to play TCU in Vegas, which I would love…
Notice how I’m already chalking it up for us winning out…I’m not over-confident or anything…
Playing BYU always lowers your SOS
Just saying BYU probably does.
by U of Uman on Nov 5, 2011 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's the nice thing about being independent
No one cares about you enough to call you out on your crap
Do we really think
We’re one of the top 25 teams in the country? Top 50, sure… but there are 25 better teams than us.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 6, 2011 1:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Our team may not be top 25
But The argument for the schedule we’ve played is there.
Fans can do that
Just as long as the players don’t, it’s all good
I don't think anyone's confidence is that high
Just a little post game inebriation. I still think we drop one more when White has a bad night
Only if it's UCLA...
…and I don’t think their D is that great…42 in the first half against Arizona…
Washington St. is going to be a “dead man walking” when they get to us…as they’ll be eliminated from bowl eligibility…
…and Colorado is bad. If we lose to Colorado, it would be like losing to UNLV in 2007.
Speaking of UNLV
They’re tied with BSU 7-7 haha
BYU does not lower our SOS!!! This is an example of why the SOS formula is worthless.
The SOS formula is faulty and manipulated. The heart of the SOS formula is the W/L record of your opponent.
- When your opponent schedules guaranteed wins your SOS goes up.
- When you schedule guaranteed wins your SOS goes down.
So Utah SOS is going up and BYU SOS is going down. This is because 2/3 of the SOS schedule is based on your direct opponents W/L record.
To further expand how a conference can manipulate the SOS formula, I will restate the above with reference to a conference… (pretend this is a 9 team conference that plays 8 conference games and 4 OOC games.)
Every conference will end up with a 50/50 win/loss record. For every conference win there is a conference loss. The Sun Belt Conference will fair exactly the same as the SEC when only counting conference games. Therefore, 100% of any SOS advantage is through OOC games.
Yet 2/3 of an individual teams SOS is from conference games. This is how the system can be cheated.
When a conference member schedules a guaranteed win then:
- 8 conference members SOS goes up and
- 1 (themself) SOS goes down.
Everyone looks at the small picture and thinks the team that scheduled the guaranteed win will have a lower SOS; however, nobody looks at the bigger picture to see that over the course of the season their SOS hit will be paid back with SOS gains many times over when they hit conference play.
Utah has the best deal of all. They play BYU who does not have the benefit of a conference to "pay them back" with SOS later in the season. Instead, BYU continues to play easy wins throughout the season helping Utah SOS better than anyone could hope for.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
I was thinking that after UCLA destroyed Cal last week.
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Damn He was scary....
Glad we were able to slow him up.
Here’s hoping for a good game against the SunnyD’s
Two thoughts about Az
Foles has a silky smooth play action.
It’s just too bad his WR’s are such pansies. I’ve never seen WR’s so quick to get out of bounds as the Wildcat WR’s are, and every route is designed to put them on the sideline so they can get out of bounds fast.
Do we know the extent of Criner’s injury? I’m not sure the extent, and hopefully it’s nothing serious, but his not playing in the 2nd half seemed sketchy to me. I could be wrong, especially since I don’t have any actual info.
That's right
They lost to the Illini not USC. I was thinking of a 4 way tie with each @ 4 losses. Assuming nobody was ranked in the BCS we had better OOC. But at that point I think they look at opponents records in the PAC. ASU wins that one with a win over USC
Stupid ASU
How do you give up that long pass play when you know they are going deep, let’s make that loss look worse by beating UCLA. neuheisal(sp?) was already talking about the game next week, they are a hot team, but so are we, should be a great one!
btw does anyone think the UCLA QB is kind of a d-bag
he was yelling at his recceivers for his own mistakes. look like a hot head that’s for sure. let’s use that to our advantage defense!
The animated gif made me seriously miss 30 Rock
At least the season is just delayed, not cancelled. Last season though. Great show.
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Last season...really?
I love that show…why are they not making any more? It’s not like shows like Community are better / more deserving of a time slot…
I actually love Community too
Sounds to me like the actors are kind of done with 30 Rock and they want to quit while they’re ahead. A TV show is a big time commitment and some of them want to spend more time on movies.
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Utah Single Season Rushing Records
Does anyone know what the Utes single season rushing record is?
Actually it looks like it was 1507
Meaning Blanco is 483 behind. It’ll be difficult to get there, but not impossible, He’ll need 161.3 per game to break it.
bowl game will count , no?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 6, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
Assuming we make one, yes
And if so the 120.75 average is less than the 130+ he’s averaged over the last 4.
If JWIV
Runs for 400 yards in the next 3… I can pretty much guarantee we’ll get a bowl game.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 6, 2011 8:36 PM MST up reply actions
Heck if he runs for 150 in any single game of the next 4
We get a bowl game.
I realize those announcers...
were for the local U of A feed, but that had to be one of the worst called games I’ve ever listened to. They were terrible.
Just thankful the Utes won, and we were able to watch the game on TV. Could you guys see Craig Thompson going and fighting for a game to be on TV here locally like Larry Scott did?
It’s so nice to be in a real conference.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
San Jose State
That game wasn’t televised last year.
by UnHoly Ram on Nov 5, 2011 10:49 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Arizona stadium is the quietest stadium I've ever heard
In the U section, we couldn’t believe how quiet the crowd was. It was a sad place to watch a game. They did, however, have a great HD jumbo screen.
Did you never go to an away game in the Mountain West?
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Just got back from the UCLA-ASU game
But I followed the Utah game on my smartphone.
Thank you JOHN HAYS, Norm Chow and Conroy Black.
Hays
Hays was one dropped pass away from 3 TD’s and no INT’s. I can’t wait for DVC to get back in rhythm. I still see Hays having one more bad game this season, but hopefully that’s paired with a good night for White. Hays’ accuracy is still a little subpar, but his decision making his much improved. Props to Byrd. National special teams player of the week for sure.
One more bad game?
I’m still waiting for something better than average from Hays. He’s yet to really play a good one, this was more him not playing a bad one.
And yea some of that could be attributed to drops. If DVC and Dres catch some of those drops it would possibly be considered a good game. Although that fumbled pass was so bad, it’s worth a downgrade of a couple spots on it’s own.
When we can move the ball offensively
obviously good things happen.
I thought we had very little chance against the U of A. Thinking with my heart I thought IF we could start off by throwing deep on them and execute (and we did) so as to keep them honest from stacking the box, our defense could somehow keep us in the game (and they did too, big THANK YOU to Conroy Black a guy I have been ragging on all season). I was praying for at least 27 points against the Wildcats and Nick Foles.
I don’t want to start gushing about Hays like I did with Coleman (he missed two big FGs), but our QB executed well this week and it is nice to see there is some upside potential.
I hope he keeps getting better and that the game speed keeps slowing down for him.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 6, 2011 9:15 AM MST up reply actions
To be fair
When comparing his performance in the UW, ASU, and Cal games, Hays has been playing well. Not at the level we may want, but from where he’s come from, yes I’ll call the last two weeks “good games” for him.
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
"him not playing a bad one"..
199 yards, on 12 completions, 2TD, 0 INT, 0 Fumbles, 1 Sacked…
Last week he “didnt play a bad one”.. this week he played “pretty solid”
Yeah
I’d say this was a solid, good game from Hays. One more pass and he’s got 200; and he ran for a few solid yards as well.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 6, 2011 8:40 PM MST up reply actions
I always believe in the Utes...
Just because I’m not blindly throwing my support behind them and thinking they’ll go 13-0 every season doesn’t change that.
by JazzyUte on Nov 6, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
You took the proper stance.
Everyone knows ASU is capable of melting down at any time.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 6, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
very good game by the utes. to end the season with 5 straight wins would be nice
wazzou is starting to play lousy at the right time too.
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it. Tapology. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 6, 2011 12:53 PM MST reply actions
Great Game Utah! Turnovers killed us for sure
But Hays looks much better, no picks and the Utah D made timely plays! Hats off to Whitt and co. they def outcoached our motley squad. Hate to jinx anything but you guys should win out..8-4 would not be too shabby. Good luck the rest of the way out, i’ll be rooting for you!
So what bowl game you guys looking at playing this year? I would like you guys in the Kraft Bowl in SF so we could play you guys. #6 PAC team vs #1 WAC team if WAC gets 4 bowl eligible teams.
Depends on how we finish, I guess...
The Pac-12 isn’t necessarily a stickler for using standings to decide who goes where. It’s possible Stanford gets into the NC game, which would then probably put Oregon in the Rose Bowl and ASU, if they win the South, in the Alamo Bowl, maybe Utah in the Holiday (though I bet Washington goes), depending on where they finish, or the Sun.
My guess:
8-4 – Holiday (unless Washington wins out, then the Huskies become a desirable option).
8-4 – Sun (if Washington goes to Holiday)
7-5 – Las Vegas (Assuming Cal isn’t selected and UCLA is that fifth loss)
7-5 – Kraft Hunger (Cal goes to Vegas instead)
6-6 – ?
I guess it’s possible, at 6-6, Utah goes to the New Mexico Bowl, but that only happens if Stanford/Oregon both aren’t in the BCS (and right now, even if Oregon wins this weekend, I think there is a good shot both play in the BCS). If the Ducks/Cardinal, like last year, play in BCS bowls, there won’t be a Pac-12 team available, since Utah, at 6-6, would be the last bowl eligible team (unlikely Washington State wins out and Oregon State, Arizona and Colorado have already too many losses to gain a bowl berth).
So it’s possible Utah gets to the Kraft and in fact, CFN projects them there, but playing USU (who I think Utah would beat pretty easily because their offensive strength, their run game, goes right up against our strength on defense – the run).
That could be possible if Utah loses once more this season, especially if that loss is to UCLA, who then becomes a potentially more desirable team, even if they lose to SC and finish 7-5.
If Utah beats UCLA, though, I think it’s very unlikely they drop that far unless they stumble against Washington State or Colorado (unlikely at the moment).
My guess, they’re looking at the Sun Bowl at the moment, but things can change in a hurry.
To add to that the 3 WAC teams that will be eligible is:
Nevada
Hawaii
La Tech.
Utah State needs to win 3 out of 4 games. One of them is against Nevada. San Jose State is another candidate but they have to win their final 3 and the next one is against Utah State.
If both fail then the Kraft Bowl goes to the number 9 ACC. If that fails then its against a MAC school.
Utah vs. Utah State in a bowl game?
Sounds like a stretch. Interesting pairing though, from a historical perspective. USU fans would probably be excited, but I doubt Utah fans would.
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Be fun to play them
Although kind of a lose-lose… no respect if we beat them, but I think folks in Utah know that USU is deceptively good this year.
I would like to play Baylor or an ACC team in a bowl game. Baylor would be a very Arizona-esque matchup, and should be a fun one to watch.
All that said, I will take anyone! Just want a bowl game and to notch another Pac-12 OOC win.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 7, 2011 12:08 PM MST up reply actions

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