Saturday could be first snow game of the season for Utah
by JazzyUte on Nov 9, 2011 11:50 PM MST
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Saturday, for the first time this season, the Utes could take the snow-filled field in their game against the UCLA Bruins. Even if the snow has tapered off by the time the game starts (4:30 SLC time), temperatures are expected to dip below freezing as the game progresses into the November night.
Since it is a later start, it's probably smart to bundle up big-time for this game. It certainly will be the coldest, and potentially wettest, game of the season.
Which could be an advantage to Utah, as the Bruins are probably not too used to playing in colder climates - their home games are played in SoCal, not known for its harsh and cold winters.
Of course, who knows what advantage, if any, this will give the Utes. It's entirely possible this is overstated and the impact is too narrow to register.
I guess we'll find out. If anything, it should offer up some frozen bodies in the stands. So to keep warm, you all should just stand and cheer nonstop...loudly, I might add.
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Love snow games
Only thing better than watching them on TV is being at the stadium. It’s ‘real football’ to me, which is a little silly because it takes away so many facets of the game. Still, can’t wait!
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 9, 2011 11:59 PM MST reply actions
Freeze Out Those Hothouse Flowers!!!
This should be good. If we can muck up their run game, they are toast!!!!
Not to be contrarian
But most places I’ve seen aren’t predicting the snow to actually start until later in the evening. That Saturday during the day itself will be mostly showers. According to Accuweather’s hourly forecast temps won’t actually be below freezing throughout the entire game (With the lowest during game temp being around 38), but that it will feel like it’s below freezing.
There is however an advisory for 56 mph wind gusts.
dang....
that pretty much takes away the passing game. 56 mph? Wow…..
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 10, 2011 8:41 AM MST up reply actions
Eh, it depends on who you use...
The Tribune reports rain/snow after 11 a.m. (with rain prior)…while KSL just lists mostly rain.
This from the National Weather Service:
Saturday: Rain likely before 11am, then rain and snow likely. Snow level 5700 feet lowering to 4300 feet in the afternoon . Cloudy, with a high near 45. Breezy, with a south wind 16 to 22 mph becoming west. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
So snow levels at 4300 would probably include RES.
Their wind gusts are also much less than 56 mph, so, who knows.
I think everyone agrees
That it is going to be a downright nasty day. =D
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 10, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
Not just their home games
but also their road games; not to say it never snows in Seattle, Eugene, Corvallis, etc., but it doesn’t much, especially during the football season. I haven’t tried comparing November/December weather in SLC (or Boulder, for that matter) to the same period in Pullman, but WSU’s the only school that’s at all likely to offer a similar road weather environment.
by The Ancient Mariner on Nov 10, 2011 7:21 AM MST reply actions
We can see snow at Mt. Wilson from the Rose Bowl.
by LA Bruin on Nov 10, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
And you regularly hold practice on the peak?
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
by RedJaron on Nov 10, 2011 10:10 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
troll alert.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 10, 2011 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
Yup
He was bitching about snowball comment and the reply to it over on bruins nation on the Q and A with jazzy article
What a charmer
Don’t actually throw snowballs, though. I don’t really expect it, but I would love to see a sub-150 run game just to get them to hush up about it.
Can’t wait for the end of the season and my best/worst Pac-12 fans poll. =]
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 10, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Their mod was apologizing for his behavior on one of Jazzy's posts.
Jazzy made a good luck post on BN and he responded “you don’t belong here Ute”. That’s really the first time I’ve seen anyone act like a dick on one of the SBN PAC12 boards in response to a congenial post.
The UCLA blog has lots of morons.
There are a lot of good people who went to school there. But you get a small minority that get the hitler youth mentality of superiority.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 10, 2011 5:44 PM MST up reply actions
every fan base has them.
Bruin Nation seems like a great blog. I had to chance to go through it yesterday.
In my time on SBN, I have found only three blogs that I won’t visit. 1) Halo Heaven, 2) DRays BAy 3) Every day should be saturday. HH and EDSBS are run by idiots and Drays bay has the highest morons per capita of any SBN blog.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 8:36 AM MST up reply actions
I used to read it everyday also
until I got booted out.
Like the Cal blog, they have lots of good writers and they cover all aspects of UCLA athletics well. I especially enjoyed reading about sports that don’t receive as much press coverage like baseball.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 11, 2011 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
you got booted from Bruin Nation?
really? for what? You are like the most easy going poster I have ever seen!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions
For arguing with a UCLA moderator and another poster
about why Utah had earned its place in the Pac-12.
Some guy said “F” Utah and I told him to “F” himself. Then they treated me like Paterno.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 11, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
Obviously is it politically correct to tell a school to F off, but it is NO-NO to tell another user
personally to do the same thing.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 11, 2011 9:46 AM MST up reply actions
wow
sounds like a bunch of winners. beating them tomorrow will feel good, especially after the idiot trolls who have come around here this week.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
doesn't surprise me at all after my second post there got me threatened with a ban i'm pretty sure
touchy group for sure
by khaostheory117 on Nov 11, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
not touchy, juvenile hitler youth mentality.
Your story is not unique. Due to some of the posters (and moderators) sense of superiority, they cannot accept a diverse viewpoint. Unlike the Cal blog, where you can even disagree with them, on the UCLA blog they will shut you down for shaking up their little world.
I saw some of this ‘attitude/behavior’ when I was a student there. Not unlike nazi Germany, where this ‘we are better than you’ complex ostracized people different than them.
I recall a story on Bruin nation about the UCLA coed who got into hot water for posting a offensive video about other fellow UCLA Asians student talking too loud in the library on campus. BN wrote a story about some eatery being named after the incident and the posters comment on that story really enlightened me on how many punks were posting on that site and THEY WEREN’T SHUT DOWN.
Not being on that site is no big loss. I got to other sources for UCLA information now.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 11, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
It's quite common, actually
Just come over to the UW board and broach the subject — something like half the main commenters there are banned at BN, usually for just a couple comments. (As you can probably guess, Rick Neuheisel is something of a sore spot in that conversation.)
by The Ancient Mariner on Nov 12, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
EDSBS is many things...
But one thing it is not is run by idiots. Spencer Hall might be the best writer covering college football right now.
i totally disagree
and he takes himself and life way too seriously…….
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
We are talking about Spencer Hall, the man who runs the blog Everday Should Be Saturday, right?
Because describing him as someone who takes himself and life too seriously is probably as inaccurate a description of the dude as I can imagine.
have no idea of names
but the people who gave me a warning over there for just posting a fanshot need to grow up and get over themselves. But whatever.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, okay. You're pissed off at the Commentariat.
You probably did something that offended their strange and arcane rules (every site has strange and arcane rules dictated by the Commentariat — and I urge you not to take it seriously. The folks at EDSBS are actually quite nice and witty once you get to know them). But anyway, Spencer Hall runs the site and, imo, he is fucking fantastic. Read his take on the the banality of evil (if you haven’t already since it appears you read a lot of SBN stuff). Cheers and Go Utes!
Need to get USC at RES on a cold day
Those California dudes can’t play in the freezing or rainy weather (for reals)
Anyway, win this one, and it looks likely you’ll have an 8-win regular season :) Not a bad showing for your first year in the Pac.
False
We have won our last 2 snow games, both in 2009. Unfortunately those were against crappy Wazzu and Temple teams. I doubt the weather will be a big factor, your D-Line is the determining factor in this game.
True!
I was talking those USC California dudes, not Bruins. Bruins have warm fur, after all ;)
(See USC record in state of Oregon lately)
False
You don’t get to being one of the premiere programs in the country by playing only on good weather days.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Nov 10, 2011 6:07 PM MST up reply actions
Troooooo
Even USC fans during the Oregon State game last year were blaming their poor play on the cold and saying the school should leverage its power to not play the NW schools in those conditions (by moving the game times to earlier in the day instead of at night when it’s coldest.)
Oh well, agree to disagree I guess :)
+1
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions
Has UCLA EVER played a late-season game in cold weather at elevation?
Because I’m pretty sure that they haven’t. They have no idea what they are getting themselves into.
Cold weather, yes, but not at elevation.
Before Utah and CU joined the party, altitude wasn’t an issue for anyone. We played at WSU last fall a day after it snowed, and we actually played really well. Of course, everyone plays well against WSU, and elevation there isn’t an issue. This weekend will be a challenge just from a geographical and meterological standpoint, not to mention dealing with a good Utah team with a QB who is getting comfortable with his offense.
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I think elevation is a much bigger deal than weather...
Obviously the impact is less when you’re playing a bad team (same with weather), but when you’re facing a solid team, those factors definitely play into the success of the home team. I think it’s why the Jazz, throughout the 90s, continuously posted the best home record of any NBA team. They had talent, obviously, but the elevation helped, I think, add to their success rate.
Here’s a breakdown of the elevation of Pac-12 cities (highest to lowest):
Boulder: 5,430
Salt Lake City: 4,222
Tucson: 2,389
Pullman: 2,352
Berkeley: 1,320
Tempe: 1,140
Pasadena: 863
Seattle: 520
Eugene: 430
Corvallis: 235
Los Angeles: 233
Stanford: 75
There is a huge drop off after Utah.
Of course, the Utes are 1-2 in conference play at home and Colorado has been abysmal all around, even in their stadium. So, as I mentioned, elevation doesn’t help if you’re going up against truly superior team. I guess it could have an impact, but in the end, it’s extremely minimal.
Where it does become a factor, I guess is when you’re looking at two teams that are equal. Add the weather factor and it certainly could benefit the Utes more than UCLA because they’re used to the cold and snow.
I think it works to the Utes’ advantage because our teams seem to be fairly even across the board. It didn’t work, though, against Washington and ASU because those teams were just flat out better than Utah.
We’ll see, tho.
Rice-Eccles is a little higher than that since that's the elevation for downtown.
The Stadium sits at about 4,650 feet above sea level.
It was a nice day today
I actually wore shorts outside, guess it’s the calm before the storm.
I remember at the start of the season when they were interviewing players from UCLA and they mentioned the possibility of snow during the game and the UCLA player was like snow!?! Never played in snow before! It was pretty funny. Looking forward to Saturday’s game.
that said
there are utah players that haven’t played in such conditions so it will obviously effect both sides
I think about
JWIV for that. I don’t know if he’s played a cold weather game, but I sure hope so!
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 11, 2011 8:26 AM MST up reply actions
hadn't thought of that.
still, he will have had more time to adjust to this weather than the bruins have.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 11, 2011 8:40 AM MST up reply actions
At least all the Utes have had cold weather practices.
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Snow games and slick fields usually benefit teams that can pass
as it can be difficult to get footing.
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