Penn State has contacted Kyle Whittingham
by JazzyUte on Dec 10, 2011 3:09 PM MST
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Okay, so things just got real.
CBS Sports is reporting that Penn State, yes, THAT Penn State, has contacted Kyle Whittingham.
The report also indicates Whittingham still has interest in the Arizona State job.
But who the hell knows.
As of the last post, we were at WHITCON 3 and will remain there until sources indicate he's close to signing with any program not named Utah.
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NO!!!!!! This absolutely can't happen!!!
If we lose Whit, who comes in and replaces him? If he is gone, why would he still be here during bowl prep? ASU is worse off than we are right now. Come on Hill, pay the man!!
by Carter Crosland on Dec 10, 2011 3:48 PM MST reply actions
It will happen haha
Why would he stay???? face it utah isnt going to be successfull in the pac-12 for a long time.
Whitt isn't going anywhere
Programs can contact Whitt all day long, but he’s not going anywhere. If the report was that Whitt was involved in negotiations, THEN we should get worried.
And what is up with ASU? I’ve never heard Whitt as a possibility for that vacancy before. That’s even a longer shot than Penn State.
No way Whitt leaves his home at Utah to play for a Pac 12 South division rival. I’d bet anything on that.
I don't read the script. The script reads me.
Agreed...I think it's more likely he's angling for a bigger raise.
by JazzyUte on Dec 10, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Private vs. Public universities
When I was at Syracuse, a private school, salaries were hidden, but I know that Boeheim made more than just about any other NCAA basketball coach. In other words, a private university were a lot more flexible in salaries.
Does the state have some control over Whitt’s salary? Is there an upper limit? Or is there “augmentation” by alumni or someone else? I’ll write a check for $10.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 5:15 PM MST up reply actions
I think you are right, BUT
If Whitt were to go anywhere but here I’d love to see him at Penn State. I could still be a fan. And Kyle vs Urban every year?? whoa!
At the end of the day KW stays home and we stay happy – for a few more years.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson
by uteowl on Dec 10, 2011 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hadn't thought of that
Urban vs. Kyle. We’d all watch that.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
This article has one particularly disturbing line (http://tinyurl.com/7nphmpp) :
“Sources close to Utah’s head coach and the ASU football program have indicated there is mutual interest, with one source saying Whittingham’s "ideal job" would either be coaching Arizona State or a California school.”
What the hell should we make of that – IF true? I hope that this falls into that saying about worry – 80% of what we worry about NEVER happens and 80% of what happens isn’t as bad as we thought it would be.
I don’t want to think about that last 20%.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson
I'm not buying beachfront property from unnamed sources
That Fox Sports article is sloppy journalism with unattributed sources. It’s basically just Whit’s resume and accomplishments.
by UteinBrooklyn on Dec 10, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions
Fox Sports is better than FoxNews
Just saying.
But I’m an East Coast/Southern California left-wing, pot-smoking, Birkenstock-wearing, hybrid-driving, gun-owning liberal.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
Im sorry to hear that...
all but the pot-smoking part…
by UTalkintome? on Dec 10, 2011 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
Hey...we libs need weapons to keep away the fascists
I’m Jewish. My father made sure both of his sons wouldn’t have to deal with the Holocaust. So that’s why I’m a lefty with a license to carry.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 11, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm a lefty too,
and I have a pretty large arsenal. My dad was a liberal cop and no-one understood the world better than liberal cops.
I don't but that one bit.
California maybe, but Whit head zero ties to Zona. Can’t buy for a second it would be an “ideal job”.
by UnHoly Ram on Dec 10, 2011 7:34 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
WHITCON!!!!
Oh how happy and sad I am to see you back again
I don't think he'd go to Penn State...
1- Who wants to step into that shit storm?
2- Who wants to begin is JoePa’s shadow?
3- Who wants to step into that shit storm?
by BetterasIgetolder on Dec 10, 2011 4:50 PM MST reply actions
My thoughts
1. Shitstorm has little to do with the team itself. It’s blown over, in the sense of effects on Penn State. It seems like it was very isolated with little or no NCAA issues.
2. Valid point, but what a school. Penn State is a significant upgrade to Utah. And Hershey is close by, and you can get all the chocolate you want.
3. See #1.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM MST up reply actions
Wrong, wrong, wrong
How much out actually involves the football team mean it’s blown over even if the ncaa never gets involved. Besides the B1G has already said they want their lawyers involved in any investigation, that they are considering sanctions separate from the ncaa, and that the topic of removing them from the conference had been brought up by other teams
by UnHoly Ram on Dec 10, 2011 7:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Citations please
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
ESPN Good enough for you?
Read Here. Here’s another citation. Also here’s the Letter the Big Ten sent Penn State
Either way it’s pretty clear Penn State’s football program isn’t out of the clear, and that doesn’t even take into account some of the other rumors of things that have yet to drop. Although those are still just rumors.
To think that Penn St will somehow be decimated by this scandal
… is an absurdity IF administration isn’t able to find a credible calming force of a man to take over the program. The scandal isn’t a football scandal per se, it is a school scandal. The foundational elements of the program are all still in place (talent on hand, rabid fan base, rich recruiting grounds, big media market following, great divisional alignment in a great conference, wealthy and deep booster support). I have no idea if Whit is interested, but let’s not pretend that PSU is going the route of SMU.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Dec 11, 2011 8:20 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
No one's saying they are going the routes of SMU
But to think that Penn State football isn’t going to be affected by this scandal is the real absurdity.
Sorry, but it's not a football or athletic department scandal
It was two things. Sandusky the slime. And coverup by two people, Paterno and the PSU Prez. They’re all gone.
And as for the letter from the Big 10, that’s just a formal letter requesting the opportunity to determine if there is an issue with “institutional control”, that is, did the system cause Sandusky to be a pervert and for the subsequent coverup. Even if that were true, it would not be a closing down of the program Sheesh. Love it when amateurs try to read into things.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 11, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions
If there end up being 20 victims, and all of them end up suing, Penn State Football is going to have a bigger problem than any NCAA restrictions.
They’re not closing down the program, but they’ll be crippling it financially for several years. And I wouldn’t be shocked to see the NCAA step in, despite the fact that this isn’t a recruiting/practice issue, or the Big 10. This isn’t going to go away just because the people involved are gone.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Dec 11, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
Far less likely than ASU, IMO
Penn State is big time, but do you think Whit wants to step in and clean up the scandalous mess there? Also, you never want to be the guy that replaces a legend,
Further, Whit has no recruiting ties, no family ties, etc.
With ASU, I could at least see there are similar recruiting connections, a large LDS community, a Western U.S. culture, etc.
Not sure I agree
Urban Myer went from Utah to Florida, won two BCS Championships. Recruiting ties aren’t that hard to make. It’s the coach and staff that make it.
Also, I don’t think the LDS thing is THAT big of deal. If Whyt is going to depend on Mormons as his recruiting base, then I’m going to give up on Utah football, because I’d rather he focused on the Catholic or atheist recruiting base. Not the Jewish, since I don’t think there’s been a good Jewish football player ever.
Also, Penn State doesn’t have a scandal. One assistant coach was a pervert. They probably didn’t break any NCAA rules. They’re not on probation. They haven’t lost scholarships. And talk about a school that has a lock on recruiting. They get everyone in New York, Penn, part of Ohio, NJ, etc. And it’s a great school with loyal fans. Huge stadium that is packed game after game. And it’s in the Big 10 (or whatever it’s called these days), which is one of the three premier conferences in the country.
These stories are making me suspicious. Obviously Utah has given permission for these schools to talk. It’s hard to tell what’s true, but it seems scary. VERY scary.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 5:08 PM MST up reply actions
Penn State doesn't have a scandal?!?!?!
They just fired an iconic coach and the school president. There is pending litigation against their athletic director and school law enforcement. An institution wide cover-up of child rape can’t be categorized as a scandal?
And about the LDS thing… I wasn’t talking about a recruiting base, I was talking about personal lifestyle. Not universally, but often times people like living in communities where there are similar populations of like-minded people. It’s why the Avenues feels different than Provo. Whitt is LDS. I’m not speaking for him, because I don’t know what he would want but there is a huge LDS community in Phoenix that his family could be a part of. Probably doesn’t exist in College Station.
And Urban wasn’t from Utah. Everyone knew he was leaving. This was a stepping stone. Whit has roots here. He went to college in Utah and has been a coach in the state for Utah for over 25 years. His only coaching experience out of Utah was in next door neighbor, Idaho, for two years. Whitt’s kids are rooted out west. I don’t think Kyle leaves that to go to the East Coast.
by UteinBrooklyn on Dec 10, 2011 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
Penn State is seriously big time
Yes it is a scandal. But it’s a legal one that doesn’t mean that they’re going on probation for 2 years with loss of scholarship. People forget about this shit not 10 minutes later.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 10, 2011 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
People aren't going to forget about this "shit not 10 minutes later"
Whether or not it actually had to do with anyone currently at Penn State, the stink of this scandal is going to follow Penn State for years.
It'll follow Penn state the school...
…but it really has nothing to do with football and, honestly, it affect none of the foundational elements that make PSU such an attractive job. The talent is still there, the recruiting fields are still rich, the boosters are still rich, and the stadium still holds 100k every Saturday
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Dec 11, 2011 8:23 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
Remember, it’s one horrible person who did this, along with a trail of coverup. The university dealt with it, albeit too slowly, but they dealt with it.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 11, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
I meant in terms of the football team
Penn State will clean house, and start again. People won’t associate the shit with the a new group. And look, if you were Penn State, what cleaner more upstanding college coach could you choose (with a lot of success in big time football) than Whittingham? That’s what worries me. Then again, I’m as much an east coast guy as I am a Utah/Californian, and I adore Penn State.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 11, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
Compared to UT & AZ the LDS population is small, but
there are LDS folks in the area. There’s a stake and wards – and branches. As the head coach at Penn State he would be a very popular member of the LDS population in the state. He and his family could fit in, but it is very different. State College is a college town – SLC it isn’t, but the fans are rabid and the stadium which holds somewhere in excess of 100k and it is filled every week.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson
by uteowl on Dec 11, 2011 12:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not being LDS...I guess I don't really care
But his job is football, so Penn State is a step up. You’re right, they are rabid rabid rabid.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 11, 2011 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
If a ca job is wat is ideal then why wasn't he even mentioned for the ucla job
You know if he had expressed interest they would have considered him
good point
I think UCLA would have been a better job than ASU. With SoCal recruiting you could really turn that place into a power way faster than you could at ASU, IMO. I think Whit could have had a choice between the 2 and would have chosen UCLA if he was going to leave.
by Ute_in_Austin on Dec 10, 2011 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
Penn State is a little more believable than ASU
But Whit has been mentioned in connection w/ a lot of other jobs before. Before kiffin went to USC Whit was mentioned as a candidate also (again before kiffin) he was a candidate for the Tennessee job. To my knowledge he didn’t interview w/ either.
When he goes and interviews w/ one of them then it will be time to panic, until then it just rumors
This concerns me far more than ASU...
Regardless of the scandal, Penn St. is one of the most prestigious CFB jobs in the nation, ranking with the likes of Notre Dame, Alabama, USC, & Ohio St.
Whittingham wouldn’t be expected to come in & win immediately…but would be given the chance to recover from the scandal & establish his own program. He could be the savior of Penn St. football…
…and in this case, we wouldn’t be able to match the money. He might get a comparable offer down the road if we keep winning…but it’s never getting better than this.
To me, this is Whitcon 2…Hopefully we dodge this bullet.
By the way...
Lane Kiffin, USC, $4,000,000 (estimated)
Chip Kelly, Oregon, $2,800,000
Jeff Tedford, California, $2,300,000
Steve Sarkisian, Washington, $2,250,000
Mike Leach, Washington State, $2,250,000
Rich Rodriguez, Arizona, $1,910,000
Kyle Whittingham, Utah, $1,700,000
Mike Riley, Oregon State, $1,313,471
Jon Embree, Colorado, $725,000
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What the hell is going on here???
Why the hell would he leave here after only a single year in the PAC? It can’t be for money or he would have left while we were still in the MWC. Uteusmc I think has a great point in that if Whitt truly wanted a Cal job why the heck wasn’t he even mentioned for UCLA? That point alone makes me feel a little more confident that he isn’t going anywhere.
Penn State is in a world of hurt and I don’t see a big name like Whitt taking on that mess. Look at Urban. He claims he left due to illness, but in my mind he left Flordia when the mess started there knowing he’d come back and coach in a better local for him and his family.
Being worried about what the heck is going to happen with our QB situation is meaningless at this point until we can get the Whittconn back down. This is going to drive me nuts now.
What good coaches are left out there this late in the game? If Utah has to scramble to get a coach I don’t see who’s left out there that we can grab. Especially if we are not willing or able to get a sallary up closer to the 2 bills.
I’m freaking out!
I would think
Gary Anderson might be quite interested in the Utah job.
by Techsaninutah on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions
There is just a big mess at Ohio State...
and our fav, Urban Meyer went there. I still remain unconvinced that the football program is going to take a hit for the pedophilia. Sandusky will go to prison. Paterno was fired. The President of PSU was fired. Whittingham can come in and clean anything else up, and everyone is going to say “good guy with good rep and we can start anew.” In fact, name a person with a cleaner reputation than Whittingham (along with the big time football credibility) who could come into Penn State. I really can’t think of one. And Penn State can offer much more money than Utah.
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by LeftCoastMan on Dec 11, 2011 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
only hire
Possible if any of these rumors are true would be G.A.
by BBKiks on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Worst case scenario...
…Whitt bolts, and than what?
Who is out there and would be willing to coach here? Could June Jones perhaps be an option? I’ve always liked him… I’m not saying he’s the best; I just know he was thinking about ASU, and he’s a coach that I’ve always liked.
…or how about Tom Cable? I think he’d be a good guy to continue the trend of physical play. I’m sure he’d love another HC job.
I don’t think Chow could be HC, but maybe?
…and if we do get a new HC, would he keep Chow and Sitake?
Dan Mullen
I don't read the script. The script reads me.
by TomahawkRed on Dec 11, 2011 12:00 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, Dan Mullen would want to cash in on his rising star at Utah
…not that Utah isn’t a great spot (I think it is), but he’ll be looking for more money and prestige given that most guys who are in his position only get one time to cash in big
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Dec 11, 2011 8:27 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Tom Cable?
Can you imagine him getting in a physical altercation with Sitake or another coach. This is coming from a Raiders fan, no Cable.
Please, let's not entertain the thought...
We’ll work on WCS when it happens. I still do not believe for a second he’ll go to ASU.
It's kind of hypocritical...
…to post a blurb about something that may very well happen, and then turn around and encourage your readers not to discuss it.
It’s nothing personal, so please don’t take offense. I’m just calling it like I see it.
Not hypocritical at all.
I am not reporting that Whittingham is leaving or close to leaving or even has an offer from a team. I’m only reporting there has been contact. Could it happen? Sure, but as they say, ’we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it…’
To me, it seems premature to start drawing up a list when, in the end, I don’t believe Whittingham is going to leave Utah (either for Penn State or Arizona State). But like I said, I’m just reporting what is being said and right now, it’s nothing more than two sources from two different programs reporting there is some interest.
Making the leap from that to already drawing up a list is, as my grandma used to say, borrowing trouble – and we don’t want that!
All I’m saying is it’s too soon to be thinking of replacements.
And really, if you want to talk about it, I’m not really going to stop you or delete your posts. But, like I said, I don’t want to entertain that thought right now.
I hope the AD doesn't think like this
Jazzy just remember the best defense is a good offense. I wonder what if anything UoU knew about these recent rumors. I have to believe the first thing the did was call Whit to get a feel for what’s going on. Two results were possible: 1) Whit said don’t worry I’m not leaving (I hope that was it), 2) Whit said nothing to worry about with a little less surity in his response.
But if UoU staff don’t start creating their short list and get caught blindsided ouch.
But nonetheless I have to believe in my heart of hearts that Whitt has more respect for the entire utah program and wouldn’t take a move to ASU. CAL maybe, but those gates are closed for now, so I truly believe this is going to blow over and its just being dredged up because ASU and the Tempe community have no clue as to how to go about finding a coach.
By the way Gary Anderson was one of the first thoughts I had as well. He’s done a very good job with USU, but not sure if he is up to the task of a PAC 12 yet.
Andy Reid
Should be available after this season….
by bzutefan on Dec 11, 2011 10:05 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Nobody wants the ASU job....
If Whit is even considering looking at ASU he would be taking a step down… read this article
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/975554-arizona-state-football-coaching-search-has-been-an-embarrassment
by bzutefan on Dec 11, 2011 10:11 AM MST via mobile reply actions
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