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For hope, look to Indiana

There is no doubt Utah basketball is at its worst state in program history. This has been something brewing for years now and doesn't necessarily tie back to the last coaching staff or even the staff before that. Really, ever since Rick Majerus 'retired' in 2004, the program has been on a steady decline to irrelevancy.

Even the dead cat bounce in '05 and '09 couldn't ultimately alter the course.

So, because the fall has been so deep and so sudden, the climb back is going to be long and painful. We're witnessing that this season. This is rock bottom. There is a good chance Utah struggles to sniff five wins this year and could be on the cusp of the first one-win season in school history.

It's the pits. It sucks. If you're a fan who, like me, grew up in the 1990s and watched the Utes steamroll their way through the WAC and on to the national title game, it's painful knowing you're relieved Utah somehow covered the spread against the Cougars - which was 22 points.

That's not Utah basketball. This is not what guys like Vadal Peterson, Jack Gardner, Jerry Pimm and Rick Majerus worked so hard to build.

We are a proud program that has a great history and that makes this whole situation even more difficult to grasp.

Fortunately, it's not written that Utah basketball will always be bad. I am confident one day we'll return to past success. It might not be next year or the year after that, but it will come. College athletics is too evolving of a sport to allow the Runnin' Utes to be this bad for this long.

We're due.

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So, how do we find some glimmer of hope in this mess?

Well, look no further than Indiana.

I get the circumstances leading up to both teams' struggles are not comparable. The Hoosiers were decimated by a scandal that cost their former coach, Kelvin Sampson, a job and left Tom Crean, their current coach, with barely anything to work with.

I get that. Larry Krystkowiak didn't take over a program consumed by scandal. Yes, much of the turnover seen after Jim Boylen was fired is his own doing. That's not relevant. In the end, both ended up with a situation where the head coach was almost literally starting a program over from scratch.

For Crean, it wasn't easy. In his first season, Indiana produced their worst season in school history. They managed only one Big Ten victory and finished with a paltry six wins.

Fans were not impressed. Fans questioned the direction of the program. Even with all the turnover, the fact they only returned two players from a year prior, 6-25 and 1-17 in Big Ten play is remarkably bad...especially for a program of Indiana's prestige.

His next two seasons were only marginally better. He won 10 and 12 games respectively.

Their conference record wasn't all that impressive, either. In fact, last season, his third there, they were 3-15 in the Big Ten and finished dead last.

But the administration was patient. It didn't hurt Crean was bringing in stellar classes, but record-wise, when you're 27-66 in three years, there is going to be some grumbling.

Most felt this was the make-or-break season for Crean.

So far, he's making it. Indiana sits at 9-0 and is coming off a last second victory over Kentucky.

The Wildcats were ranked number one nationally.

Four years ago, this program was ambling through the worst season in program history and now they're riding high.

I'm not going to proclaim the Hoosiers are back or that they'll even contend in the Big Ten, but they're at least on the national radar again.

Yes, Indiana got there through spectacular recruiting classes. Yes, Utah and Larry Krystkowiak probably won't come close to grabbing the type of recruits who have chosen the Hoosiers over the last few years. But we don't need to be at that level. Utah basketball has never been about building for national championships.

We don't expect Krystkowiak to take Utah to the Final Four.

We just expect a team that competes every game, is solid in its fundamentals and contends for its conference championship - whether the WAC, Mountain West or Pac-12.

That's pretty reasonable.

So, while we watch this season unfold and the losses pile up, look to Indiana as evidence it does get better.

At least that's our hope, right?

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Ken Pomeroy says 2015-16 might be the year.

Well he doesn’t flat out say that, but he talks about other teams in history who have sucked to such a historic fashion.

He mentions Georgia Tech’s 4 win ‘80-81 season, George Washington’s 1 win ‘88-89 season, and even the TDS’ 1 win ’96-97 season.

One thing they all had in common, 4 years later they were back making noise in the Tournament.

As Jazzy pointed out this is also Indiana’s 4th year.

by UnHoly Ram on Dec 12, 2011 8:15 AM MST reply actions  

Oh by the way

This is also the 4th year since Oregon State’s winless year, and they are currently sitting 6-2. Not great but a chance to be dancing again.

by UnHoly Ram on Dec 12, 2011 8:18 AM MST up reply actions  

So, when Loveridge is a junior

That sounds about right for when the Utes will be a force once more.

by Thlete on Dec 12, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

No - he'd be a senior.

If the year is 15 / 16, Loveridge would be a senior. I think it will be the year before that that we start having a good record again.

by Jed Wunderli on Dec 13, 2011 7:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Great post!

I think that as fans, as hard as it is, we all have to accept the current situation and rally behind these guys. As Comrade was saying last night on twitter….there are a lot of guys playing this year who won’t play next year or even be on the team. In my mind, that is a good thing. GO UTES!

Love the Jazz, Utes, and BoSox.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Dec 12, 2011 8:19 AM MST reply actions  

Yes, Its black now but.....

I keep feeling good when I hear Coach Krysto talk. He’s not trying to bs us about how bad it is, but he can point to improvements that I think will build a strong program in the long run and he genuinely seems to be enjoying what he’s doing and teaching the guys.

One of the best aspects of Majerus was when he was just teaching and not being a celeb. That’s when we had the most success and had a consistent program. So seeing Coach on the same track is reassuring.

And if football can come back from how bad it was in the ’80’s to what it is today, basketball’s revival will be a snap.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. - Conan the Barbarian

by U of Uman on Dec 12, 2011 9:09 AM MST reply actions  

Am I reading you wrong, Jazzy, or are you selling the Utes a little short?

You say we’re not a program that builds for national championships. I’d mostly agree if by that you’re referring to schools like Kentucky, UNC, Kansas and UCLA. We’re not in that league, and there may only be a couple programs (Duke, Arizona…) that you could also lump with those heavy hitters. That’s rare air and a club I’m under no delusion that we’re a part of.

But I’d put Utah in that next tier. That second tier, I think, still works toward a national championship. Our goal is to do more than “contends for its conference championship – whether the WAC, Mountain West or Pac-12.” In our best days of the ‘90s, it was not about the WAC anymore. We didn’t measure ourselves with WAC championships or conference tournament championships.

As I’m sure you recall, Majerus was notorious in our mind for not caring about the conference tournament. Speaking for myself, I thought he was too laissez faire about it. But the point is, as fans, we weren’t going to get much satisfaction until we were a couple wins into the NCAA tournament. We saw ourselves as a perennial S16-level program. At least I did. That’s still a stretch from shooting for the championship every year, but that’s still an elite level. I’d hope to see us get back to that level soon; where we see the Sweet 16 or deeper a couple times a decade.

by fountainofute on Dec 12, 2011 10:04 AM MST reply actions  

Duke is definitely in that group...

Duke has won more national championships than Kansas, they are definitely in that group. As for the last part of the post, I would disagree based on the conference we are now in. In the PAC 12, if you are competing for the conference championship, then in most years, you are going to be able to compete for the national championship. If our goal is to win the PAC 12, and it should be, then we need to think that we are a national power at that point (and we should recruit with that in mind) and have confidence that we can compete with anyone in the country, unlike the MWC champion.

by Jed Wunderli on Dec 13, 2011 7:42 AM MST up reply actions  

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by Simply Red on Dec 12, 2011 7:32 PM MST reply actions  

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