Utes to drop Drum & Feather - Sun Bowl the last game logo will appear on helmet
by JazzyUte on Dec 30, 2011 3:29 PM MST
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PrintThere had been rumors circulating the last week about the possibility that the Drum & Feather logo - which has been a staple for University of Utah athletics since the 1970s - would be dropped prior to the 2012 season.
KSL has confirmed those reports.
The Drum & Feather logo will be no more - officially being phased out after Utah's bowl game tomorrow.
Replacing the logo will be either interlocking Us or the traditional, more historic Block U - which has been associated with the University for over 100 years.
The Drum & Feather, as I mentioned, was brought into the program back in the 1970s and was a near-copy of the Washington Redskins logo of the time. It's not a surprise, as over the years, the athletic department had moved away from the logo - replacing it on the field at RES, at mid-court at the Huntsman Center and on a great deal of athletic gear sold recently.
But it is a big development and could suggest the program might be moving toward dropping the Utes name altogether.
For now, though, the Drum & Feather is the only thing going.
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Noooo!
I love the drum and feather logo. I don’t just want to share our logo with espn u. This is sad news
by notblue19 on Dec 30, 2011 3:35 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Bummer
But if the tribe objected than I understand. I think the interlocking U’s would be pretty cool on the helmet.
Oh, hell to the no!
This is so unbelievably lame…..why replace our logo with a something so boring and unoriginal. Petition?
To be fair, not like the D&F was original to begin with...
This was the Redskins logo they copied it from…
That makes a grand total of 2 teams in all of sports
One of which hasn’t used the logo for sometime, I’d call that original…..now how many teams use a block letter or interlocking ones?
How many run the risk of losing their name for offending the group they're named after?
If Utah drops the D&F, it’s because the Ute tribe told them to.
It’s not outside pressure from the Pac-12 or Chris Hill playing PC Police. This has been a move coming for a while now. The tribe has had issues with the logo because of its native symbolism (feather & war drum) and to help appease them, the athletic department has even gone as far as calling it the ‘circle & feather’ instead because of the issues there.
So, if they’ve shown displeasure with the logo, and want a change, we have no choice.
Or we’ll lose the name altogether.
If that's the case......
I can understand that. Though every time someone asks, “What’s a Ute?” It strengthens their history.
Seriously though.....
Are you hearing that the Ute tribe is now unhappy with the logo thus causing change?
I've heard that for years now...
I don’t know for a fact it’s the reason, but yeah, I’ve heard they’ve not been too open to the logo for a while now.
But I don’t know for sure. We’ll find out, though.
I can accept that......
Anything other then that is completely unacceptable.
The might be
the only thing worse then the Red Hawks
How are so Calm?
I’m currently on the 1st of the 7 stages of grief…..
You sure about the Pac 12 having nothing to do with this?
Seems like a helluva a coincidence.
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 30, 2011 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
How so?
If anyone’s been paying attention to Utah athletics the last 10 years, they would’ve seen this day coming.
Back in the early 00s, the logo was completely removed from the floor of the Huntsman Center.
The logo hasn’t been on the field at RES since at least ’04 – it was used in the end zone back during the first few seasons of the stadium, but gone by the time the Meyer era rolled around.
When they added the Us to the press box, it was the Block U and not the Drum & Feather (that was back in ’06).
More and more apparel has either Swoop or the Block U on it as opposed to the D&F.
The athletic department has, for the last few years, been calling it the ‘circle & feather’ instead of drum & feather.
All this happened LONG before the Pac-12 offered an invite.
From what I’ve heard, and this goes back years, the Ute tribe has increasingly become displeased with the logo because of its Native symbolism (war drum & feather). The athletic department wants to continue a good relationship with the tribe and this might be the only way to do that.
It’s not the Pac-12, from what I’ve heard. If the Pac-12 were demanding a change, they would demand TOTAL change – not just the logo. That means they would tell Utah to change its name from the Utes to something else. That’s not the case.
This has been an issue between the athletic department and the Ute tribe for quite some time. So, I’m guessing, if this move is done, it’s to appease the tribe and not the Pac-12.
No they wouldn't, they'd "demand" a gradual, and scheduled, phase out/in period.
Besides, oh King of the Redundant Paragraphs, I didn’t say this is all on the Pac12, but, considering how P.C. of a conference it is, it isn’t a stretch to wonder if there was some added pressure coming from that direction.
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 30, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions
You don't need to be an ass...
Keep it up and I’ll politely ask you to leave so you won’t have to read my redundant paragraphs.
Bottom line, hearing what I’ve been hearing since at least ‘05, this is not a surprise and has little, if anything, to do with conference affiliation. This move would’ve come even if the Utes were still in the Mountain West.
Just poking fun at the way you reiterate your points, over and over and over...
and over :D
You can “ask me to leave” at any time. I rarely read this blog much anymore, anyway. I’ve been kicked out of higher class establishments than this before! ;)
Also, BCSBusted makes an interesting point about the tribe hinting for some extra coin… bottom line, none of us knows completely the reasons behind any of this.
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 31, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions
Lmfao
I can always get a new blog, but what am I gonna do about my legs, Charlie Murphy?!
Just sayin', if you don't like the way I articulate my thoughts, you don't have to read 'em...
Disagreeing with me is fine. I’ve had many, many posters in the past say I’m wrong.
But taking shots at my writing ability, when I’m not forcing you to read it, bugs me more than anything.
No need to take it to a personal level. Keep it professional.
It's a blog.....
Not really the place to critique writing ability.
From the business and conspiracy theory standpoint, I think(and I could be way out of line on this) that there’s a possibility this is a shake-down by the Ute tribe. You want to use our tribe name? Ok, how about you slide us a few million from that sweet new Pac-12 TV deal.
I've heard that too...
That they want to renegotiate the contract now that the Utes are making bank with the Pac-12 deal.
Their is a strikter sdandard rekwirered four koments sektion tho
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
Anytime you write anything, and post it for mass consumption,
it’s open to criticism. Notice I didn’t critique grammar or spelling, just mechanics. That’s valuable criticism!
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 31, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
We get the same thing here in Georgia
u(sic)GA
Who copied whom?
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
Green Bay copied Georgia
Which is Exhibit A for the argument that it doesn’t matter where it came from, the Green Bay logo is as classic as Georgia’s. Utah’s is substantially different from the Redskins and it’s become a classic.
Correction: Seems Green Bay had it first
But the point stands: both are classic, both are inextricably identified with the institution after years and years of use.
We just bring it up
since u(sic)GA shows no more creativity than to steal from VINCE LOMBARDI and sing “Glory Glory to Old Georgia//repeat” incessantly until you want to ice pick your ear drums. The only things worse are ROCKY TOP 123 times per game in Knoxvegas, and that stupid chicken CLUCK at Steve Superior the Evil Genius’ stadium at USCe.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 11:43 PM MST up reply actions
Miss State's cowbells almost made me want to shoot someone today
by khaostheory117 on Dec 31, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
But the BIGSCREEN
can be seen 7 miles away from their Stadium.
Also, they draw their share of arguably look able coeds, not Chapel Hill or Oxford, Miss level in mass quantities, but worthy of a visit to a game, if you’re deaf.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 4:14 AM MST up reply actions
If you get tired of hearing "Glory"...
the best thing you could probably do is stop us from scoring on you. I know that’s easier said than done, though.
by FisheriesDawg on Jan 1, 2012 6:34 AM MST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOO!!!
I only buy Utah gear that has the drum and feather on it. What a bunch of crap.
You don’t see the Florida State dropping their Seminole-themed stuff.
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
Sort-of-daily sort-of-funny sort-of-thoughts at danoftheday.com
Same here...
And my four year old already knows and loves the logo!
by notblue19 on Dec 30, 2011 3:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Greed will save the day
There would be hell to pay in lost merchandise sales. That, and I assume we have some traditionalists among the boosters? U administrators SURELY know this.
I wish that a pack of cougars...
Would denounce the tds.
by notblue19 on Dec 30, 2011 3:56 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Not to be a dick.....
but that is COMPLETELY BORING
Agreed
No offense. It’s about as plain and uninteresting as it gets.
im afraid it's going to look like the rutgers helmet
and the rutgers helmets suck
I honestly dont mind it
I’ve always liked the plain block U. Interlocking U’s I’ve never been a fan of. And Jazzy, the helmet looks ok, but I would prefer an all red helmet and a white U.
I live and die on Saturday's
by P-NutUte on Dec 30, 2011 4:17 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
interesting thought. and probably the best idea i've heard so far.
does any other school have a dino mascot?
by khaostheory117 on Jan 1, 2012 1:21 AM MST up reply actions
Just wait until they announce this will be the logo...
That was taken from the renderings of the new trailing facility. Hm…
I was wondering about that...
I’ll bet a dollar to an asshole that that’s the new “athletics logo”.
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 30, 2011 6:49 PM MST up reply actions
Ech!
Orange in any color scheme means redneck fans. Clemmins, TigerWhoScreamsWarEagle, UTfulmer, UTbrown (less so), TheTeamThatWasTebow, etc.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 11:48 PM MST up reply actions
Rec'd for Regional
addition to the hive mind.
See there, had I not come here, I wouldn’t have known that ’bout that.
Like you probably wouldn’t have known about UT=Rocky Top; oops, everybody knows that cause UT’s on TV EVERYWHERE, and has their own Navy.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 3:53 AM MST up reply actions
Excluded as a Utah Ute Fan
So as the Utes entered the PAC-12, the University of Utah asks fans to join or increase crimson club donations, to support the increase in ticket prices, to support our athletics in both home and away attendance, and all this in a very trying economy. Many of us have done that. I certainly did in all categories.
What frustrates me is they want increased support from fans and alumni, but have they done anything to include them in this decision? We bleed Utah crimson red, yet the athletic department continues to make decisions without any fan or even fee paying student input. Just keep excluding and alienating the fans, and see where that gets you. Go UTES !
You said it
Alienation of the fans. Couldn’t have said it better myself. First Crazy Lady, now this.
Wait. What? I've been out of state for a while now and haven't been able to make it back for a home game. what happened to Crazy Lady?
by Ute in the Lou on Dec 31, 2011 6:47 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
They're "Reevaluating"
Nothing official, but Dr Hill said they’re “Reevaluating”. Some of our beloved Muss board and athletic department fear it is getting stale. I say we replace it with another stupid Wells Fargo or Subway ad. Those aren’t getting stale at ALL.
Here’s a link to the story: http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/campus/perhaps-crazy-ladys-last-dance/
If we keep with the currently color scheme....
and I assume we would, it’s going to look too much like Houston’s helmets.
true
but if i had to pick between the single block u or the double u design i’d go with the latter as of right now
by khaostheory117 on Dec 30, 2011 11:29 PM MST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with this.
Living in Redskin country, I see the logo Jazzy posted up above quite often actually. Usually as a metal badge on the back of cars. At first I thought I was finding fellow Utes, but upon closer inspection they are all ‘Skins fans. I would rather have the school use an emblem that is uniquely ours. Unfortunately our block U has been appropriated by the World Wide Leader. So I would like them to use the interlocking U’s. Maybe I am in the minority on this, but I like how they looked on my Utah license plates back when I lived in SLC.
Losing the Utes name may bother me more. That decision should be up to the Ute tribe, and if they don’t want us to use it that is fine. But if we change it to the Red Tailed Hawks, I’ll be pissed. That is a lame ass name. (but I will admit Swoop is good for the kids)
Petition
Here’s a petition that’s been started. If you support Saving the Drum and Feather please sign and help spread the word! GO UTES!
Cold turkey...
If this is the case, lets drop it all. Lets find a mascot and symbol that will last. I love everything the way it is, but if this bullshit continues to be an issue, I say drop it all together.
"Go afield with a good attitude, Walk with respect for the wildlife you hunt, and for the forests and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person."
- Fred Bear -
by BetterasIgetolder on Dec 30, 2011 5:32 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I almost want to agree
Because I do. But I can’t bring myself to….
I live and die on Saturday's
by P-NutUte on Dec 30, 2011 6:00 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
This blows!
I’m almost on board with BetterasIgetolder on this. If the only friggin’ thing that associates Utah to the Utes is the nickname – then scrap it. The logo won’t reflect anything Indian, er, Native American and Swoop as a mascot is such a stretch that it’s ridiculous.
Why not just call ourselves the Block U’s. and for our mascot we have someone run around in square foam suit with the block U on it. Then we can save on the couple of scholarships that we give to the Ute tribe as part of the compensation for use of their name.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson
Lets not stop there!
Let’s get rid of the MUSS, and charge more for those seats. Students can pay for standing room only! Also due to the success of the blackout, let’s get rid of the crimson, and just go with black. Oh, and Utah man? Talk about outdated! Let’s scrap it and find something new and edgy. Who needs tradition, because if you like the product you have supported, then you will definitely like something completey different.
by notblue19 on Dec 30, 2011 6:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It just popped into my head when you said Square + Foam + Suit
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 8:44 PM MST up reply actions
Why do they have to unass the drum/hoop/circle along with the feather?
The only thing about the logo that can be construed as remotely “injun” are the feathers. Just drop those and keep the encircled block U. Seems like a fair compromise.
As an aside, I hope we never use the “Ute” name. It’s unique and fitting considering the state derives its name from “Ute”. Shit, technically, Utah could claim that “Ute” is just slang for “Utahn”. If it has to go, however, I sure hope the school grows some balls and comes up with something equally unique. “Red Hawks” is almost as shitty “Cougars”.
Crap. Meant, "LOSE the "Ute" name..."
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 30, 2011 6:47 PM MST up reply actions
Utah Utahns?
I like it. And as a collective whole we will just have this inside thing where we shorten Utahn, to Ute.
by notblue19 on Dec 30, 2011 7:02 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Ha! How 'bout, Utah Teabaggers!
Utah Red State
Utah Jello Shooters
Utah Voyagers, or Caravan…named for the popular Chrysler Co. minivans
Utah Suburbanites
Utah Templars (hee hee, that’ll piss off the Zoobs!)
Utah Concealed Carry Permiters
Utah Trappers (I still miss the S.L. Trappers, sniff)
Utah Milquetoasters.
Utah Crazy Crackers… is that crossing a line? I’m a honky myself, just so’s ya know.
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 30, 2011 7:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
A few more:
Utah Honey ‘n Lemon Teabaggers
Utah Lakestinkers
Utah Red-tailed Right Wingers
Utah Fightin’ Conservatists/Traditionalists
Utah Battlin’ Brine Shrimp
Utah Desereters
Utah Stagnant Tide (another Great Salt Lake reference)
Utah Giant Soft Drink Refill Cups
by -FeloniousMonk on Dec 30, 2011 7:33 PM MST up reply actions
I like the GSL references
We should be the University of Utah Brine Flies
Use this:
And maybe we could throw a “Block U” football helmet on him like the Miami Dolphins have in their logo
Rec for the Templar joke
nice one Monk.
"Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
Vince Lombardi
Honeybadger = de-testiclation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8OXpWtFGHQ
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 8:46 PM MST up reply actions
Jeremy Clarkson warned you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8OXpWtFGHQ
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
After CFB
all I have to live for is Barrett-Jackson and Top Gear reruns.
Still waiting on 2011 Christmas Special.
Gettin’ Stiggy w’ it.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 11:35 PM MST up reply actions
idk what i'm gonna do without bbc america lol
moved into a place where I no longer have satellite and i’m dying to watch top gear
by khaostheory117 on Dec 31, 2011 12:04 AM MST up reply actions
So you're moving underground?
North Korea?
Arctic?
Satellites go everywhere, don’t they?
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 3:55 AM MST up reply actions
hahaha na. just moved in with my aunt, was living with grandparents before and they're the ones with directv
by khaostheory117 on Dec 31, 2011 4:05 AM MST up reply actions
Ahhh Grasshopper
I understand the Kharmic disunion this will cause your life-force. The Yin and Yang will be unbalanced until you can seek Nirvana of BBC America on Internet or SportsBar.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 4:11 AM MST up reply actions
oh and whoever is in charge of creating that garbage u.s. version should be taken behind a shed and shot with a cannon
by khaostheory117 on Dec 31, 2011 12:07 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed.
Maybe they can be blown up by the Punkin Chunkers.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 3:56 AM MST up reply actions
Honeybadger don't care.
Honeybadger don’t give a shit.
Will he win a Heisman?
+ for D player = Heisman, see Suh.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 3:57 AM MST up reply actions
Have to agree with Jazzy's Twitter take...
If we lose the circle and feather, but get to keep the “Utes” nickname, I’m all good for a new logo.
Slippery Slope
“Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.” If the logo goes, the name won’t be far behind.
Well maybe...
But if the logo stays, the name is almost certainly gone and we have an ugly PR mess on our hand (not that this is great by any means, but yeah).
I don’t think Dr. Hill is doing this just to be his PC self and I doubt the Pac-12 is demanding Utah change its logo – yet will allow them to keep the name ‘Utes’. This has been brewing for a while now and I’ve heard, long before today, that the Ute tribe had some reservations (no pun intended!) about the logo.
That’s always been a sticky issue. So much so, in fact, that the athletic department officially calls it the ‘circle and feather’.
It’s likely, though I guess this is all speculation on my part, that if the athletic department kept the logo, the Ute tribe would rescind its endorsement and then the name is most definitely forced to change.
It’s possible, though I know a lot of people think this means we’re going to lose the name, they stay the Utes and remain the Utes for years to come – with a logo that isn’t directly tied to a certain tribe or American Indians.
Illinois did something similar with the Illini.
They used to have Chief Illiniwek as a prominent logo, but in ’07, retired him because of potential sensitivity issues.
To…
They’ve been able to keep their name.
They seem to get along with their tribe, and Renegade + Osceola is AWESOME to see.
/regrets rec’ing Free Shoes University
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 PM MST up reply actions
Certainly the Seminoles have a decent relationship with the Seminole tribe...
Utah had a live American Indian mascot for years, but dropped it in the early 90s, I believe, at the behest of the Ute tribe.
Of course, we also used to be called the Redskins and even had this on the uniforms:
Chief Nok-a-Homa
Atlanta Braves. Went to every school, teaching Native ways. Had a Teepee in Center field that sent smoke signals up with every Homa, Nok’d.
Too un-PC, Ted Turner canned him. Sad Day.
When the Braves started winning in 1991, the Native American lobby came out against the team – never heard of them before we started winning.
You’ll never see THIS again, hence I keep my old license plate in pristine condition.
Still the best sweater “on frozen pond”.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
I can see where this might be a problem.
Like Bert Reynolds playing an Indian. Sort of a Brownface Vaudeville thing.
The Greyhair will be under Magua’s knife again.
Hell, you could be the Utah Huron’s, they probably would like a tie in to the Reservation Casino.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 4:01 AM MST up reply actions
TOTAL BULL CRAP
If this happens I will be pissed the hell off. Like most of you I have been a Ute fan my entire life. I was in the stands during the Holy War in the 80s when there was more blue than red in our stadium and we wore the drum and feather with pride and I always will. The great Ute tribe of Utah has given us the honor of fighting under the Ute name and its under that title that we should continue to fight. You do not reject such a gift, you embrace it, as we all have since it was bestowed upon our University. I have worn the drum and feather for decades and I will continue to wear it with utmost pride, regardless if they want to change it.
This logo B.S. is giving me way too much stress.
If the school drops the “Utes,” what are we supposed to yell at the end of Utah Man?
Lame and Lamer
Get Ready, Utah fans. We’re about to be Rutgers West:
Or Worse:
U
Stick a small caricature of the Rocky Mountains and the Great Salt Lake in the logo.
I agree a plain U is kind of boring.
I personally think that the plain block U looks sharp
I live and die on Saturday's
by P-NutUte on Dec 30, 2011 8:34 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
It's gone.
As soon as they introduced swoop as a mascot in 1996, I thought it was strange. Now, half of the merchandise in the campus book store doesn’t even reference “Utes” or any Native American symbols. Much of it is simply Swoop or a Block U.
They have been systematically phasing out “Utes” for about 15 years now. I have a feeling this isn’t over. Utes, as a mascot, will be gone within the decade.
Is this going to piss off your players and coaches just in time to go to DEFCON 1
for the game tomorrow?
Should we be prepared for intra-Univeristy haterz over diversity? Riots in the stands?
Some old farts hated our Black on Gold, ’course we won a 1990 National Championship with those bad-ass Jerseys.
/Pat Swilling concurs
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 8:53 PM MST reply actions
What's the feeling within the fanbase (or blog-base)
of BYU beating Tulsa?
Hate, always and forever?
OK, cause it makes your win look better?
Meh, cause you’ve got better things to think about, like belly button lent?
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 9:11 PM MST reply actions
Meh...
I was kinda glad since I picked ‘em in my bowl pick ’ems and I’ve been getting my ass handed to me.
But other than that, not much discussion.
by JazzyUte on Dec 30, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for Bowl Pick Fail
Touchdown Jesus
Forced to take Huskies
Tulsa
Wake and Heels
Cal and Airmen
Did have Frogs and Broncos and Wolfpack
Need Jackets, Clemmins, UVA, VPI, Hogs, Whisky and T Boone Pickens.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 11:32 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe it's just wishful thinking but...
I’d like to think we’re past the era of “3 months later the team we beat beat somebody so that validates our season”. Maybe we’re not. But at any rate, at least we can stop waiting for SDSU or Air Force to beat somebody so we could pretend we were in a legitimate conference.
Wikipedia article is better.
We did “invent” the Thursday night ESPN game. Our Athletic Director, Homer Rice, mentioned to ESPN that NC State and GT could provide better ratings than Drunk Tractor Pulls on a Thursday night. I was there for the first one, and Friday mornings have never been the same.
“Up with the White and Gold
Down with the Red and Black
Georgia Tech is out for a victory
We’ll drop the battle axe on Georgia’s head
When we meet ‘em our team is sure to beat ’em
Down on John Heisman’s (or Paul Johnson’s) field there’ll be no sound
as our Bow Wows rip through the air
When the battle is over the Bulldogs will be found
With the Yellow Jackets swarmin’ round, hey!”
Chant:
Cheerleaders: Go Jackets
Students/Alums:(bust their ass)
Repeat twice more…
Cheerleaders:Fight, Win! Students/Alums (drink, get naked)!
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 30, 2011 11:23 PM MST up reply actions
Long time reader, First comment.
Born and raised in Utah, my family taught me some good, and grew me up as a Ute fan. The discussion of the University changing the “name” or “mascot” has always been a rumor. Nothing new.
Sure you can call the current logo unoriginal, uninspired or plagiarized material. But something has always caught my attention, never has anyone representing the Ute tribe stood up and protested the name or logo. Until I see a real member of the tribe speaking against the use of the drum and feather logo, and/or name. Why change it?
So you want to stand out against the crowd? It’s UTAH! Who cares what Miami(FL) has to say, they are irrelevant now. Why stop there, …change the logo, …change the name. Then have Under Armor do Utah’s jerseys like they did Maryland. Ugly right? I mean come on, it’s UTAH!
I WILL never stand for a name change.
Hope anyone and everyone reading this will see the same way that I do.
Not saying the Utes are a racist name or what have you, but there are some bad derogatory terms out there in the sports world that are still accepted.
Redskins being the most egregious.
Many Native Americans fought Washington Redskins comparing it to:
The Atlanta “N words”
The Brooklyn Kikes
The Chicago Pollaks
If the team/University is respectful of: Sioux, Seminoles, Blackhawks, etc, the use of the name is positive to the tribe. I go further that Braves is also OK.
For an outsider (first time listener, long time caller), Utes seems to be respectful.
I hope y’all don’t get run over like St. johns and ’Cuse, and fold to special interest pressure just so they get a feather (ha) for taking you down.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 12:00 AM MST reply actions
Could KSL wrong?
When I posted this story, KSL didn’t have the entire story up. It was just that sources told them the D&F would be dropped.
However, I re-checked their article and they’ve added this:
However, several other bloggers with knowledge of discussions have sources confirming the logo is likely to go away.
Bloggers? Who? Not me. I never indicated it was going away – Twitter? UFN? That’s fishy.
Yeah...
Thanks a lot for ruining my day, KSL. Bastards….
by Classless Ute on Dec 31, 2011 2:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
As an outsider,
I see a suspicious and cloaked religious link to this controversy. Something like Touchdown Jesus using the Vatican to screw with Fordham and Gonzaga through the nefarious offices of Opus Dei and a French Police Inspector.
Any suspects in your part of the world? Who runs the State Legislature?
Maybe I’m over stretching and it’s just the PAC 12’s PC Police embarrassed by the potential of Native American agitation outside of Conference games on TV.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 4:08 AM MST reply actions
Can we PLEASE just copy this with our colors?
…and of course, have “UTAH” across the chest in our block font
I'm sure Phil Knight and Oregon
have a rejected Duck’s phantasmagoric Uni with Diamond Tread, Feathers (oops, too controversial), a heavy link bondage Chain, and they can weave some mountains into the fabric, for sale, Cheap.
Or you could go for the Under Armour Maryland helmets, or as my wife pointed out, “it looks like a Taxi ran into an Ambulance”.
It’s amazing how much top recruits are swayed by Swaggy Unis. Penn State’s got no chance with the classic Blue/White get-up now that there will be a new Bravo show, “Football Runway” with Heidi “Tight End!” Klum.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Dec 31, 2011 8:13 AM MST reply actions
Does this mean I have to buy a new Snuggie?
by UtahSkavenger on Dec 31, 2011 10:38 AM MST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
University of North Dakota
has to change theirs. (They are the Fighting Sioux) I think they should change their logo to a lawyer with a headdress and a briefcase. (Fighting “Sue”)
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK
Here's another reason not to lose the Drum & Feather
People outside of Utah don’t know what a Ute is! Read this post from a Georgia fan on the Sun Bowl win by the Utes (and we think we’re the only rivalry that is toxic?)
stendek
December 31st, 2011
6:22 pm
As a staunch Dawg fan I seldom post here. Right now I am as mad as Hell! Lose to Utah? With a HUGE fourth quarter advantage? On a third and almost 10 run? In OT? To a damn Yankee team? Man that hurts! Was hoping for Yellow Jacket win because I still believe coach is better than Saint Mark Richt. At least I did! I am totally pi$$ed along with the rest of the Tech nation. There was absolutely NO excuse for this coillapse. Against the Dawgs? Maybe. Against the Utes? Hell no! What is a damn Ute anyway? Happy New Year all.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word" - Andrew Jackson
Without Atlanta?
Georgia would be Alabama East.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman
"I'm not upset about the U allegations," tweeted Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez, who pitched at Miami. "I'm mad we didn't win anything while we were cheating."
stupid move
can’t believe this decision is made by the guy who lead us into PAC-12
by redzonedefense on Dec 31, 2011 11:27 PM MST reply actions
Possible name change as well
It’s just speculative, but the Tribune thinks we could be dropping “Utes” as well.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsutahsports/53210562-59/utes-logo-hill-nickname.html.csp
I don’t really care, but if we become the hawks, red tailed hawks, or anything pertaining to swoop, that will be dumb.
just me
I for one am okay with the Change… With the Way College football has gone with all the new uniforms and specialty logo’s I am okay with the Idea. Look at ASU the Lost Sparky got New digs and are going to have one of there Best Recruiting Classes ever.. Kids like new and flashy… Under Armour has been begging to compete with Nike and Oregon and Utah is that Chance.
who gives a shit if some kids like new and flashy right now
that will fade with time and then we’ll be left without another tradition and just be sellouts.
by khaostheory117 on Jan 1, 2012 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
agreed...Go Big Or Go Home
I say if the logo and “Utes” disapear, then go all the way like ASU and Oregon, well maybe Oregon has gone too far. Imagine the scenes in Heartbreak Ridge where the marine platoon struggles to matching the pt gear worn by Gunny Highway. We could struggle with what to wear to match the team. I’m watching the Rose Bowl and am liking the chrome duck helmets. Michigan State’s alternate uniform was awesome this year.
As far as being a sellout, we will be viewed that way for loosing the drum and feather and Ute mascot.
When the University athletic and marketing departments give you lemmons, make lemonade.
Keep the logo!
This petition has been made for those who want to keep the drum and feather logo. Please sign if you do too!
http://signon.org/sign/keep-the-drum-and-feather-1.fb1?source=s.fb&r_by=1895081
by JeremyW on Jan 1, 2012 3:22 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Found this comment on ESPN Pac12 blog about logo change.
jsweeney2424
all arizona state coeds offended by morehead state
Made me laugh and laugh
by theredsheepofthefamily on Jan 1, 2012 6:21 PM MST reply actions
Petition!
Please sign this petition to help keep the Drum and Feathers logo!
http://signon.org/sign/keep-the-drum-and-feather-1.fb1?source=s.fb&r_by=1887845
This thread is officially out of date.
Woo Freaking Hoo!. The Drum and Feather is staying!
https://twitter.com/#!/Utah_Football/status/154282425718018050
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