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ESPN's Andy Katz verifies Randy Bennett story, talks about Utah's coaching search

ESPN's Andy Katz has a lot to say on Utah's coaching search today and begins by essentially verifying what I reported here yesterday - that Randy Bennett interviewed for the job but will not be Utah's next head coach. 

Saint Mary's coach Randy Bennett won't go to Utah after interviewing for the position. Whether that was his call is unknown.

Bennett was always going to be a tough one to land because he's very content coaching at St. Mary's. This isn't the first Pac-12 team to come at him and I'm sure it won't be the last. He's going to jump for exactly the right situation and maybe he feels Utah, in its current state, is not as attractive for him. 

It's no biggie. Bennett was not the only candidate on Hill's list. 

Katz also discussed Dave Rose, essentially saying he would not take the job. I don't think that is too much of a surprise to anyone because Rose has a good thing going and it would be tough for him to abandon BYU for Utah. You cannot downplay how demanding personally that could be on him to uproot his family and move them to the Cougars' hated rival. It rarely happens in sports for a reason, especially when you're dealing with two programs only 40-miles apart. 

Rose would become Enemy #1 to half the state's population overnight. I'm not sure that fits his personality.

If Rose is going to leave BYU, I suspect it will be for a gig out of state. 

Beyond Randy Bennett and the talk about Dave Rose, Katz also mentioned the following about Utah: 

It's amazing how the Utah job has become such an afterthought in the coaching carousel. It should make Utes fans appreciate everything Rick Majerus did during his tenure as head coach. The Utes were a few possessions from winning the national championship in 1998, but Utah basketball pales in comparison to the level BYU is at right now. Utah's move from the MWC to the Pac-12 sounds much grander than BYU's move to the WCC next season, but it may not be as significant.

It's very blunt. But he's absolutely right. The Utah basketball program is not at the level we expect and that could scare off a lot of potential coaches. We need to accept that. Hopefully it won't hold us back in this search and I don't think it will, but it's not nearly the home run it once was. The good news is that with the right coach, we can begin the process of rebuilding and repositioning ourselves as one of the better college basketball teams in the west. 

Star-divide

Katz ended his Utah discussion with this cautionary statement for Hill:

Utah athletic director Chris Hill has done an outstanding job of hiring football coaches, but he'd better get this college basketball hire right; the program is in dire need of an infusion of energy.

We gotta be honest here. Hill has done some great things at Utah and his legacy won't be ruined by another coaching failure. However, it will be severely damaged if he doesn't get this one right. I think he knows that. I think he realizes how important this next hire will be because it could define the next decade for Utah hoops.

It doesn't take much for a program to completely vanish into obscurity. Even one that has a history like Utah. Look at Houston.

The Houston Cougars were a very successful program from the 1950s into the 1980s. In that span, they saw ten Sweet Sixteens, five Elite Eights, five Final Fours and two national championship game berths (consecutive, 1983 and 1984). 

They were an extremely good basketball program for nearly 30 years under Guy LewisPat Foster, his replacement, kept things humming for a few years and when he left for Nevada, the entire program fell off the map. A series of bad hires, which included bringing in the inexperienced Clyde Drexler to coach, set the program back decades - if not longer.

The Cougars have made the NCAA Tournament only once since the Lewis-Foster era ended. 

This was a program that played in the '67, '68, '82, '83 and '84 Final Fours and for the championship twice 27 and 28 years ago and they have not come close to that type of success again. 

It can happen here.

I'm not saying it will happen here. But I think Houston is an example of how a storied program can quickly diminish into nothing more than an afterthought on the college level. 

If Hill misses again and we have a third failed coach in three tries, people are going to wonder if it's more an institutional problem than a coaching problem. 

So he needs for this one to pan out. This is it. Cliched as it may sound, we're in the bottom of the ninth of game seven of the World Series here and we need a couple runs to win this thing. Striking out means going home. We can't go home. 

Now let's hope he can hit that home run. 

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That article is depressing.

There’s more truth than any of us would like to attest, but I guess I got caught up in the crimson kool-aid of “candidate x might be receptive to the job!”

by BoylenOver on Mar 24, 2011 4:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Well we'll see where Hill goes from here...

There are still a lot of good candidates out there. I’m still confident we can land a great coach.

Bennett didn’t work out for a whole host of reasons. That happens. Bennett has turned down Cal, Oregon and Oregon State. Hell, even Kentucky has been turned down before.

It’s not where you start, I guess. It’s where you end.

by JazzyUte on Mar 24, 2011 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Congrats for getting this first.

You may now do your “I told you so” dance.

Smug self-righteous judgment of others does not make you classy. Going out of your way to call people classless does not make you even classier.

by daedalus17 on Mar 24, 2011 4:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Wondering who is still on the short list?

Anyone know who is still in the running or whom is on the short list? Or is the original posted list of “possible’s” still accurate minus the bennett’s!

by UTErabidfan on Mar 24, 2011 10:48 PM MDT reply actions  

I think so, yeah...

You could probably add Dave Rose’s name just for the sake of adding it.

I’ve heard possibly Lon Kruger’s name being thrown around, but I don’t know how interested he is in the job.

Mark Gottfried, from all accounts, would jump at the chance. Blaine Taylor is a candidate for Wyoming, so I’ve got to think he’d listen to Utah if they offered.

by JazzyUte on Mar 24, 2011 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I still think we're in the running for Dave Rose.

Let’s remember, he doesn’t have Jimmer anymore and BYU is basically saying that basketball doesn’t matter to them because they are demoting the team to the West Coast Conference. We are also moving to the Pac-12 people. Rose is going to have access to way more resources if he takes the Utah job vs. staying at the now Jimmer-less BYU. If he can do what he did at BYU with their limited resources, think of what he could accomplish at Utah.

by pappyman on Mar 24, 2011 11:09 PM MDT reply actions  

It's possible...

The reasons I listed were solely speculative based on who Rose is.

It’ll be a tough move if he does make the jump. No doubt about that.

by JazzyUte on Mar 24, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Do you just make things up think as you go?

Bennett claims to have never even interviewed for the position:
http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_17694499?nclick_check=1

First it was:
1) Interviewing, done deal
Then:
2) Interviewed, rejected offer

Someone needs to explain their sources.

by Bitey on Mar 25, 2011 6:58 AM MDT reply actions  

From past experience

It is clear that a coach would never deny looking at other jobs. I bet that has never even happened before.

(I hope you hear the extreme sarcasm.)

Smug self-righteous judgment of others does not make you classy. Going out of your way to call people classless does not make you even classier.

by daedalus17 on Mar 25, 2011 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I never said it was a done deal...

So do you make things up as you go?

What in that article indicates anything I said was untruthful?

He says reports he interviewed were inaccurate. Inaccurate is pretty soft for a coach who, according to some, wasn’t even approached by Hill. Inaccurate why? Inaccurate just means not exactly right – maybe meaning Bennett’s agent did his bidding for him. Happens all the time.

Secondly, he claims him leaving St. Mary’s is only a rumor. Well of course. He isn’t leaving St. Mary’s is he.

Regardless, even Andy Katz says Bennett interviewed with Utah.

I feel confident what I reported was accurate. I’ve been told by a few in the Salt Lake media that Bennett turned down the Utah job. He did. He won’t be Utah’s next coach.

But daedalus is absolutely correct – do you think he’s going to cop to interviewing for the job? Of course not. He’s not stupid. It’s damaging to admit such a thing.

by JazzyUte on Mar 25, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bitey

No need to be an asshole, Jazzy puts tons of work into this blog and I definitely appreciate it. I come here first looking for information on my beloved Utes.

As far as Bennett goes, of course he is going to tell a local paper he never interviewed for the job, he can’t afford to burn any bridges. Do you take everything written by the press as gospel? If so, you sir need to do a little more research. I could go on and on, but I wont.

Jazzy, keep rockin brotha

by Carter Crosland on Mar 25, 2011 7:33 AM MDT reply actions  

gotta agree

Jazzy is the best in the business. He frequently outscoops Lya at the trib and he is definately better than the apathetic Dirk Facer. I always come here for the top and latest Ute news.

Jazzy and I don’t always agree, but he works hard and this site is the best for Ute info, because of his work. Jazzy, keep up the good work and don’t let the haters get you down.

Formerly SportsInUtah
Follow me on twitter: @BigBenSportsGuy

by BigBenSportsGuy on Mar 25, 2011 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

I’ve talked to a few media members locally who have been covering the search and they back me up 100%. Randy Bennett turned down a six year, $1.1 million deal.

I am not the only one who knows this. Might be the only one reporting it (well outside Katz, who did indicate both parties met and that Bennett will not be the head coach), but I can’t help that.

by JazzyUte on Mar 25, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bitey is an outsider that can bitey my behind.

Smug self-righteous judgment of others does not make you classy. Going out of your way to call people classless does not make you even classier.

by daedalus17 on Mar 25, 2011 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

BRUCE PEARL

I know this seems way out there but yes I have never been a fan of Bruce Pearl but he is a great energetic coach who can win. What a better fit though for Utah. He needs a new start and I think he would get us to win and contend. He could start over on the opposite side of the country and make a new name for himself. I think Hill could be nuts not to give him consideration. He is unemployeed and looking for a job. Go interview him Hill, don’t screw this up!

by westvirginiautefan on Mar 25, 2011 8:30 AM MDT reply actions  

if he can bring down tennessee he could bring down utah.

alot of people have said pearl did not just lie at tennessee. he lied all the way to one of the top teams in the country. i think i’ll pass. i suggest he be an assisstant to one Bob Huggins if you like him so much. peace.

The University of Utah is off to the Pac-12 Conference and will be in the South Division. Hopefully we will get to the first ever Pac-12 Championship Game. Jon " Bones " Jones new light heavyweight champion. Even if Jones got struck flush in the face he would recover and defeat whoever is in front of him. I told everyone the fight would be easy. Almost felt sorry for Rua. Anderson Silva would never fight "Bones". The Cult of Personality is here.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 25, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

When Utah went to the Fiesta Bowl i jumped at the chance to attend because I figured it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. When they played Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, I made absolute sure I would be in the Super Dome. There are no guarantees the Utes ever make a BCS game again.

I’ve heard that some fan bases ( NC State in basketball, Georgia Tech in football) have over inflated values of self or egos based on magical runs in a particular era. Those epic runs were the exception, not the norm. While, I don’t think that is the case with Utah basketball, it does make the Majerus years seem that much more special now.

I think Chris Hill can right the ship and think he is wise in taking his time and being discerning. Look at what Arizona is doing right now in the tournament, two years after a new hire.

Utah will always have trouble attracting certain players, but I expect them to be able to compete with Arizona and UCLA for conference championships every year. The PAC 12 move will help upgrade in recruiting. They need to make a splash in year one though.

by UteinBrooklyn on Mar 25, 2011 11:09 AM MDT reply actions  

Seth Davis is reporting that.......

Mark Gottfried is in the lead for the Utah job. (He reported that via twitter, it was retweeted by @JJSPORTSBEAT).

Jeremiah brought up a good point in his retweet, he asked if that hire would excite the fan base. I don’t know if it would or not. And I don’t know if he will be the next coach or not.

Please don’t hire Bruce Pearl…………

Formerly SportsInUtah
Follow me on twitter: @BigBenSportsGuy

by BigBenSportsGuy on Mar 25, 2011 2:02 PM MDT reply actions  

I asked people on Twitter if they'd like it...

And most Ute fans who replied are very happy with Gottfried as head coach.

He’s a buzz hire because he’s had success. Far more success than Boylen, Giac or even Majerus did when they took the job.

by JazzyUte on Mar 25, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

COACH

1st off wolfmanshowlforever dont ever smash Bob Huggins! He is the man and a great coach. 2nd I dont think Utah can be taken any lower!

Ok now on to the coaching matter. If not Pearl I look at the hot names out there! Lets make an effort and get someone young like Shaka Smart! He is energetic, young, talented and great motivator!

Or look at some top assitants from Duke!
We need to find a good candidate to bring Utah back where it once was!

by westvirginiautefan on Mar 27, 2011 8:22 PM MDT reply actions  

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