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The case for Boylen and the case against him

Whenever a coach is on the hot seat, you know he's done something wrong. Either his off the court behavior has become an embarrassment to the program or the wins on the court just aren't manifesting. Regardless, it's a tricky situation for any athletic director because it often means throwing away money that could be suited for something far more important.

In the case of Jim Boylen and Chris Hill, it's not the off the court issues that have created a disconnect between the fans and the coaching staff - something familiar to the Utah program back during the Rick Majerus days. Instead, it's been the lack of success on the court that has led most fans (70% according to a Block U poll) to call for his firing. 

Yet it's not that easy. 

Why it isn't that easy after the jump...

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Bring Boylen Back

For starters, Utah can't afford the $2 million buyout of Jim Boylen's contract. Especially when they have to turn around and pay the salary of another head coach. That alone makes bringing him back for a year or two economically sensible. If Boylen can't turn things around, at least the program can cut its ties at a reasonable price. 

Of course, Boylen also has had two extremely difficult rebuilding years. There was such a high turnover from last year's team that its final record is understandable. When you're inexperienced, regardless how well coached you are, you're going to play like you lack experience. It's why, in 1994, Rick Majerus' Runnin' Utes managed to finish 14-14 - their worst overall record during his tenure here. 

Boylen had to essentially rebuild the program after last season. This might technically be year four, but it played out, and looked much like, a first year. The team was gutted and restructured and we should give him a chance to see out his creation. 

Especially when Utah returns a great deal of talent next year.

More importantly, Boylen has proven he can win when the talent is at its best. In 2009, a team that was picked to finish fourth, won a share of the conference title and managed to sweep on through to a conference tournament championship. Yes, they flopped in the NCAA Tournament, but lets not forget this was a team that, two years prior to their tournament run, managed only 11 wins. What Boylen did was a minor miracle, especially when you consider in his first season, he improved the win total by seven and had them playing far more competitive than Ray Giacoletti did in his final two seasons. 

Who's to say he can't get the team back to that level again? Sure, the last two seasons have been a struggle, but it's entirely possible the ship will be righted next year and he'll be able to finally lay a foundation to build a solid program. 

Unfortunately, the high turnover the last few years has impeded on that goal. 

Fire Boylen

Sure, buying out Boylen's contract is going to be a pain. Certainly, though, the two parties will come to a deal that probably is less than the reported two-million. But even if it isn't, the Utah program can't be held hostage by finances. It's too important of an issue and the sustainability and future of the program is on the line. 

Bringing back Boylen does nothing to advance this program. If you bring him back next year, you must commit to the idea of bringing him back for a sixth year because a lame duck head coach in such a vital season for recruiting is poison to a program.

No recruit is going to sign with the Utes next year if they feel the guy recruiting them is not going to be their head coach. That type of cloud can't hang over the program. Not in its inaugural Pac-12 season. 

So Hill will either have to openly support Boylen getting a sixth year, regardless of what happens on the court, or put the program in the position where it's making a change and asking the next coach to essentially start from scratch. 

No one is going to want to take the job. They'll look at Utah, which very well could be coming off three consecutive losing seasons, and wonder if it's a lost program and if the next potential coach glances over the roster and sees it's filled with absolutely nothing, what incentive is there? 

Zero. 

Of course, assuring a sixth year doesn't really put the program in that much better position than it is today. In fact, it could be worse - a lot worse! If Boylen fails these next two seasons, the Utes could be looking at four consecutive losing seasons. At that point, how good of a candidate do you honestly think Utah could get? 

If Hill is just going to bring Boylen back for the sake of bringing him back, essentially kicking the can down the road, we're going to be faced with far bigger problems a year or two from now.

If Hill does believe in Boylen and believes he'll turn around Utah basketball, then he should bring him back. However, it does seem to be a gamble. 

Yes, Boylen has had to replace a lot of talent over the last season. But we can't act like this isn't, in part, his own doing. The way he coached last year, often allowing players like Marshall Henderson to do whatever he wanted, led the program down its current path. Last year's coaching job by Boylen was an absolute failure. Not just on the court, mind you, but overall. He failed at running a disciplined program and it led to the departures we saw last March.

For all the tough talk we heard from Boylen about holding players accountable when he arrived at Utah, it was something he continually did not do last season.

So even if you concede he had to face long rebuilding prospects, he put himself in that spot. He did it by recruiting those players and then solidified the player mutiny through his failure of commanding respect. 

Boylen then was faced with a complete overhaul and a larger project than he probably anticipated at the start of the 2009-10 season. 

But even then, Boylen wasn't doomed. Rebuilding is part of this game. Every team has to go through it. Where Boylen struggled was finding the consistency not against the good teams to succeed, but against the average-to-bad ones. 

Losses at home to Oral Roberts, Air Force and Colorado State were three potential wins that very well could have saved Boylen's job. Add the debacle to San Diego in Hawaii and you're getting a far uglier picture than I'm sure anyone in the athletic department intended when the season started. 

Ultimately, Boylen kind of hanged himself. Expectations for Utah basketball were not all that high entering this season. We expected competitive ball, progress and more importantly, .500 play.

We got none of that.

Because of this, bringing Boylen back should not be an option.

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Good analysis

I like that you looked at both sides. Most fan chatter about this is polarized, and there really are legitimate points on both sides of the argument. I’ve analyzed and overanalyzed this thing to death ever since the Oral Roberts loss (the first chink in this season’s already-frail armor) so I’m at a point where I’m simply glad I’m not the one making the decision.

There are two points I that I think are significant that need to be added to the “Keep Boylen” side of the ledger:

1) The injuries he faced this year. Every coach faces them, but I think they matter in this discussion. If we think his margin for error was thin anyway, than the effect of any injury was magnified. The devastation of not having Jay Watkins virtually all season can’t be understated. He would have been the only senior. He would have helped our inside-scoring—which was woeful. Having him, and him being healthy could have turned close losses like ORU, San Diego, both AFA games into wins. It makes embarassments like BYU and UNLV in SLC at least competitive. Add to that the issues with O’Brian, Foster, and recently Clyburn, and Wooden himself could not have done more with the group than Boylen got. How much do you weigh that into how this season went?

2) Off-the-court personal issues. I’m sure some fans who are closer to the program know the nature of Boylen’s personal family struggle from early in the season. I have no idea what it was, but the fact that it pulled him away from coaching @ AFA says it was no small matter. And it seemed like it went on for at least a couple weeks. I believe in giving people breaks—showing mercy when it’s deserved. I think it’s fair to cut him a break for having to deal with some serious issue in the middle of his season. Maybe it took his focus away from coaching. Can he be blamed? Wouldn’t all of us struggle in our jobs if we were also trying to sort out or digest a serious personal problem?

Anyway, arguments for his dismissal can be made in spite of these two factors and they are compelling enough.

But you’re right: keeping Boylen is not a one-year prospect. It’s a two-year investment.

If you put a gun to my head, I don’t think Jim is the guy to get Ute hoops back to the level fans expect—and that’s a recent change for me. I’ve been in his camp all along, but I’m now having my doubts about his ability to adjust his teams to the situation mid-game or mid-season. I’ve also lost faith in his offensive philosophy. I’m not as confident he knows how to build, groom and coach it as I once was.

by fountainofute on Mar 10, 2011 8:39 AM MST reply actions  

like everyone else, I've been flip flopping all season

For now, I’m actually in the keep Boylen camp. I just don’t see this as an attractive job anymore. Hill is going to have to take a chance on another young, up and coming coach who thinks he can turn the program around, and I just don’t want to go through another three years of “building a foundation.”

Boylen could have pursued the Arizona job a few years ago. His name has come up in other job searches too. He won a conference championship without a legit NBA player (anyone could have one with Andrew Bogut). It’s not like we have Giacoletti 2.0. I also don’t believe that with the talent the Utes have, and the development that should happen with their young players, that they’ll go through 4 losing seasons in a row. Especially in a conference that, today, is weaker than the Mountain West.

I vote keep Boylen. Too bad my vote doesn’t count, but I hope Chris Hill doesn’t just give up on the guy. Next year will be disappointing if he does, and the future might look even more bleak than it does today. The risk is just too big if he fires him, and the payoff is not something that we know Boylen can’t achieve. He can. He just needs another opportunity.

by applesanchez on Mar 10, 2011 9:13 AM MST reply actions  

besides, it’s worth it just to see the rematch between Boylen and Carlon Brown next year.

by applesanchez on Mar 10, 2011 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Flip Flop

I started reading this article in the “Fire Boylen Camp”, but ended it feeling like we should keep him. The financial investment is too great and the instability upon entering the PAC-12 would be terrible. Not to mention that Ute in-state recruiting should see a decent boost with BYU now competing in the much smaller WCC. I’m also not sure that we could attract a coach better than what we have in Boylen at this point.

by H2O_UTE on Mar 10, 2011 9:48 AM MST reply actions  

completely torn on this......

For the entire season, I have been so thoroughly unimpressed with Boylen’s offensive schemes. We are so low in assists and our offense is painful to watch.

I’m scared that some guys will transfer this year (like last year). I hope not though. I really like this team going forward. We need more interior scoring, we need more off ball movement, we need another shooter.

I guess if I have to vote, ill say keep him. If he can keep guys in the program, the future looks bright. He needs to tweak some things, but he has the passion and I think he could be good.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Mar 10, 2011 9:51 AM MST reply actions  

If I had a camp, it would be to fire him...

Because, as much as it pains me, I just don’t think he’s a good head coach. There is just too many inconsistencies, even in his best year, that lead me to believe we’ll be no better than a good team once every four years.

Of course, it also depends on who Hill wants to replace him with. If there is a legitimate hire out there that will create buzz and turn heads, he should go after it. If, though, the best we can do is say another untested assistant, then yes, you’re all right, we need to bring Boylen back.

Basically, it comes down to the quality of the replacement.

by JazzyUte on Mar 10, 2011 11:37 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed.

The University of Utah is off to the Pac-12 Conference and will be in the South Division. Hopefully we will get to the first ever Pac-12 Championship Game. Jon " Bones " Jones gets his chance for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title when he faces off against Shogun Rua. Jon Jones will win.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 10, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I want to like him, I really do...

and part of me even wants to say give him a break. But what I’ve gathered in the few times I’ve been able to watch his team is 1) they’re dreadfully inconsistent, and 2) the biggest mark against Boylen in my mind is that his team doesn’t look like a team. They look like a bunch of guys playing pick-up ball who happen coincidentally to be wearing the same jersey. I know they keep screaming from the hill that he hasn’t lost them, but I call BS. The Utes right now are a team where each individual is playing for one reason only, for himself. You can’t win that way, as if that wasn’t painfully obvious already.

He has lost control of the team, and that’s inexcusable in a professional coach at this level. Hell, my seven year old boys rec team played a more cooperative game than what I’ve seen from the Utes. I understand that he might be going through some things, and trust me I get that, been through a lot of family stuff myself. But he’s just not getting it done. As I’ve said before, there is really only one reason in my mind to keep him, and that’s the buyout. I think that after Utah gets blown out tonight, he’s probably done.

by NC Ute on Mar 10, 2011 1:25 PM MST reply actions  

I'm on Team Boylen

we are worse off without him at HC, let’s give him one more year with this young team to see what he can do

by SanFranUte on Mar 10, 2011 2:13 PM MST reply actions  

As I mentioned, you can't give him just one year...

It has to be two.

If you bring him back next year without the entire backing of the athletic department for a sixth year, you’re essentially setting him up as a lame duck head coach. Look over Utah’s roster, this team will lose the following after next year:

Will Clyburn
David Foster
Chris Kupets
Josh Watkins

That’s pretty much the entire firepower on this year’s team. The only significant player that Utah would return in 2012-13 would be J.J. O’Brien.

Now if Boylen enters next season with just a one-year assurance, he’s going to do so needing t replace four impact players.

How does he do that while simmering on the hot seat? If Utah struggles next year, without that assurance of a sixth year, no recruit is going to sign with the Utes. And I don’t blame them. Why sign with a coach who most likely won’t be here when you start your college career?

So if that happens, and Boylen does fail, we’re making a change with the least amount of talent possible. I’m guessing that will impact the decision making of the next guy. Who wants to take over a program with an extreme dearth of talent? We’re not just talking about a bad program that’s struggling, we’re now talking about a bad program that’s struggling, that also has nothing returning for the season.

Not a scenario that bodes well for Utah.

But let’s say Boylen does win enough games to save his job. Now he’s entering a total rebuild with no solid footing because he whiffed on major talent in the recruiting season due to being a potential lame duck head coach entering the ’12 season.

So basically we’re right back at square one. One good year out of four. But this time, if Boylen fails (and I see no reason to believe he can restock Utah at a fast enough pace to not see a losing season in a rebuild), he’s let go.

We prolonged the process and now we’re a year behind as a program.

But okay, maybe Hill openly says Boylen will come back next season and the year after that. He is adamant about that, no matter how many games the Utes lose in their inaugural Pac-12 season.

What if Utah stumbles badly? What if next year, we don’t see progress. Maybe the talent here isn’t good and because of that, the Utes finish with another losing season. So now we’re working on three straight and because Hill was boxed in by support of a sixth year, we’re bringing Boylen back again.

This time to rebuild the program after those players I mentioned above depart.

Then it’s possible, by year six, Utah has now produced four straight losing seasons.

Now we make the coaching change and find ourselves two years behind as a program.

That has to factor in here. Look at it this way: a coach is more likely to take the Utah job this season because of the talent they have coming back next season than they would if the same scenario were to play out a year from now.

Beyond that, bringing Boylen back will kill any buzz the program could garner heading into the Pac-12. Attendance has been awful this year and it will be just as bad next season because most fans have lost total faith in his coaching ability. If he returns, the program will have no buzz heading into a situation that could ultimately bolster the team as a whole (a change of conference).

That could ultimately trickle down to the coaching staff and lead us down the path of failure.

I’m sorry, but after thinking about it, we have too much to lose by bringing Boylen back. If he had shown any type of consistency the last two years, or any type of progress, I would be in your camp. But he hasn’t.

by JazzyUte on Mar 10, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Out, say I.

Boylen’s past record seems to indicate that he’s a decent coach…. Just not in Utah. Be it not a good fit, be it no co-operation from the powers that be, or maybe he just didn’t put in his best effort and needs a wake-up call, whatever.

I’m a cougar fan, and even I say he shouldn’t be there next year. These last couple of years, you beat us in football, so it’s nice that we get to beat you in basketball, but I miss the times when they were close basketball games. Utah is a good school, and in the PAC-12 you’ll need to bring it more than you did here. Even though PAC-12 is really known for its football, you will be more high-profile. You deserve to have a team to be proud of. I’ve winced watching each “L” accumulate in the Runnin’ Ute schedule. We’ve got the best rivalry in the country, and this is a sad way to leave the conference. Although we’re sure to play in football, this is probably the last time our basketball teams will go head to head, and it’s a poor showing.

You defeated us in the final football showdown, but it was an electrifying game, and one that both sides can be proud of. Basketball season didn’t follow suit.

Stand up, Utah. You deserve better.

by romebig on Mar 10, 2011 7:49 PM MST reply actions  

He has to go!

I like Boylen. He’s run a clean program, his students do great in the classroom, he’s a great guy, etc. Unfortunately, the product he puts out on the floor is awful. It’s unbearable to watch. I wanted Boylen to succeed as much as anyone but it is very apparant to me that we can’t afford to take the risk of giving him two more years. It leads to a mediocre program at best for years to come. There is no doubt that this team will be better next year regardless of what happens with Boylen. They’ll have one more year under their belts. However, if Boylen wins 18 games next year does that mean we have to extend him beyond his current contract? Personally, I’m not willing to accept Utah basketball being competitive once every four years. Boylen has proven that his teams are awful in rebuilding years; we couldn’t beat bad teams at home this year. In the Majerus years rebuilding meant still being at the top of the league and the team still looked organized and as if it knew what it was doing. Those teams were still easy to support. Boylen’s teams have been so bad the past two years I am completely detached emotionally from the team. I want to feel pride for the program again. Boylen needs to go!

by willlouty on Mar 10, 2011 11:05 PM MST reply actions  

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