Utes get defensive in scrimmage
by JazzyUte on Apr 11, 2011 6:38 PM MDT
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PrintUtah's defense forced a fumble, had four interceptions and recorded seven sacks as they dominated the scrimmage Monday afternoon.
The offense, which continues without quarterback Jordan Wynn, struggled. Tyler Shreve, who led the first unit, finished the day completing 11 of 25 passes for 107 yards. He also threw an interception and managed one touchdown during red zone drills. Griff Robles was 6 of 13 and had three interceptions.
Terrell Reese returned an interception 83-yards before being tackled just short of the end zone. Michael Walker, Dave Fagergren and Boo Anderson accounted for the other three interceptions.
Wednesday marks the final full practice of spring camp before the Red & White game this Saturday.
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I was able to go to the practice
They probably can’t wait till Wynn can get back. The offense couldn’t get much done. There were a couple non ints that hit the defenders on the gloves but they couldn’t make the catch. The recievers also had a few issues catching balls. The d line was solid though and even batted a couple passes down. They did very well stoping the run.
I wasn’t impressed with the offense at all. I don’t know if it’s the transfer to west coast or just losing so many players. The last play summed it up well, #15 (haven’t checked a roster yet so I don’t know all the numbers) fumbled a handoff down the center and #97 picked it up and ran the other way.
Kickers did well, all the kick offs were within the 5 yard line and or in the endzone. But the coverage was awful. I don’t think anyone gained less than 20 yards.
Hopefully they can get that offense together in time for September. Or maybe November, that sounds better to me.
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by sabbi on Apr 11, 2011 6:55 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Hmmmmm
I don’t know if that is a good thing or a bad thing
Go utes!
by utahman13 on Apr 11, 2011 6:56 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
The annual spring game dilema.
What does it mean? Every play you are both happy and sad. You never know if you should be happy about the winner or nervous about the loser.
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by daedalus17 on Apr 12, 2011 10:22 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Great to see Norm Chow
Stopped by for a little over an hour of today’s scrimmage. It was great to see Norm Chow roaming the sidelines before the start of play.
The quarterback almost had more tackles than anybody else. (Just kidding) After one interception was returned for a breakout run, the QB managed to make a tackle at the 2-yard line. (I kept thinking he would get yelled at for risking himself that way.)
Vocal Chops: When Whitt is mad, he can be heard throughout the stadium clear as day. Somebody made an illegal block in the back and a player got beat up on the play. Whitt laid into the offending player. My ears went red. On another play “OFFSIDE? You’ve got to be kidding me. Get off the field!”
Other observations:
kicking coverage is still a problem. Several close calls, and one blocked kick that was whistled dead just as the defender picked it up to head for the end zone.
Rugby player is a hoss (if I was looking at the right player). Big guy, but the plays didn’t always fool the defense, leading to very short yardage. Seems like they lined up with one guy in the backfield alot.
One handoff fake looked better than anything last year. Several defenders went after the guy who didn’t have the ball. Last year, Wynn was not very believable when faking a handoff.
Football is like music. When you hear the first few rehearsals before a big performance, it is easy to say “man, how is this ever going to come together in time?”
Can’t wait!
Go Utes
The fake did look great.
They were able to sell that nicely. And the qb lined up under center a lot. Not much shotgun.
And I loved the sound bites. After the scrimage I heard one of the coaches swearing at the players, classic.
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by sabbi on Apr 11, 2011 7:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Was the coach saying "butt" and "suck?" Stuff like that?
Most of us don’t consider those to be swear words.
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We've got a comedian here do we?
I’ve been to enough games at the U to know what a swear word is. Get them all the time from you classy bunch. I do know some good U fans though, but there has to be at least a few right?
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 7:35 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, real swears.
You might be surprised to hear your own coaches using those same words September 17 when Lotulelei is blowing up your offensive line too.
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little sabbi learned the swear words
from max hall and jimmer, both of whom have been caught on tv dropping the f bomb. stay classy BYU!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions
OH NOES!!! I'LL SIT DOWN AND CRY NOW!!!
A) Nobody’s perfect. BYU ain’t, that’s for sure. I’m True Blue, but I am perhaps the only person EVER to cheer both BYU and U of U. However, I just want to set something straight: There really are a few Utes that are foul-mouth drunks, but DEFINITELY not the majority, they are just the loudest. Most Utes are just like people everywhere else. There are a few super self-righteous quick-to-condemn types at BYU. They aren’t the majority. Most of us realize that although we are a church school, the people there aren’t angels. I’ve heard my bosses at the Y swear, my classmates, my professors. I mean, Harvey Unga and Brandon Davies were both suspended for something we consider far worse than swearing!
B) Curious, though, as to these supposed TV “oopses,” of Jimmer and Hall. Hall, I believe. (I can’t stand him, personally…) Jimmer, I don’t believe. I know the guy personally. I couldn’t find anything on google, so I kind of doubt it. Care to post the evidence?
Really though, even if he had, it wouldn’t really shatter me. Sorry.
I was wondering about the Jimmer one.
I remember one of the Az Cardnals players said Hall swore when he first got into the huddle, and I woudn’t doubt it. But I don’t think Jmmer has droped and f bomb. I’ve heard other players do that when Jimmer makes a good play on them but not him.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 3:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
it was the game against the Utes at the MC
At the end, he got tired of getting fouled with no call. And not only was it caught on TV, I had more than one friend in attendance (die hard BYU fans) who were able to confirm it.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
not trying to "shatter" you....
it was actually a post more in jest…….
if you want evidence, I don’t have any, other than the words of BYU fans who were there and those who caught it on TV. If I am wrong, its only because BYU fans misled me.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions
There are multiple copies of the Max Hall one on Youtube.
Here’s one. This was the Utah/BYU game in 2009, and I remember seeing it happen on TV and getting a good laugh out of it.
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Another
BYU fan who thinks being a smug judgemental person is the only way to be classy.
Why do they find it neccessary to broadcast their holier-than-thou arrogance as a virtue?
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by daedalus17 on Apr 12, 2011 10:32 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Graduation Requirement
It’s a graduation requirement. Because, they went to the “Harvard” of Utah County.
How am I being smug and judgemental?
I received a sarcastic comment and gave one back, so what? Is that to much for you? I came here to give soms insight into the scrimmge
And I said I loved the swearing. Come on man.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 11:53 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
if you can't take it.....
your claim is that you recieved a sarcastic comment. And then you gave one back. You are getting more sarcastic responses/mild trash talk. If that hurts your feelings, head on back to Vanquish the Foe where you can discuss Jimmer and the latest news that Cult leader Harmon has imparted to his subjects
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I actually don't like Harmon that much
I have to agree (a little bit) the U guys that a lot of BYU fans have the “holier than thou” feel, and Harmon seriously needs to stop sleeping with the blue glasses on. Probably has contacts glued to his eyes. I probably don’t think he’s as bad as you guys do though.
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Wrubell is worse....
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Is he?
I like him. Love his broadcasts; they make me feel like I’m there.
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just from my perspective.....
I like to follow both teams, and I just stopped reading his “cougar tracks” too much sugar coating.
His broadcasts are atrocious unless you are a cougar fan. He whines about every refs call. when the refs make a bad call, he pounces on it and puts it up as an excuse in case the cougars lose.
He gets too emotional. But hey, Im not a cougar fan, so if he is good for his audience, I can just ignore him.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I like how emotional he gets.
But that’s just me. He does bring up the calls a lot though. My philosophy on refs is, if you’re not good enough to adjust to them, you’re not good enough to win.
And his Bronco doll check for the monsters under there.
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amen to that.
Wrubell’s reaction to the Bradley fumble was classic. ‘NO. NO. IMPOSSIBLE!" I’m pretty sure he has a life sized doll of Bronco Mendenhall under his bed too so he can practice being in the same room as him without quivering at the knees and giggling like a school girl.
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 12:57 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
lol, that one really made me laugh
Don’t know if you listen to 1280 the zone much, but they play that drop frequently and it makes me laugh every time. No!…………that is impossible!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
oops. pulled the trigger too soon.
Is 1280 the zone the one with Gunther?
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 2:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Wrubell is good in some ways.
He is animated and calls a good game in many ways. It is when he is a major homer that he can be annoying. Some of his animated qualities that make him call an otherwise good game can make him go a bit crazy at times.
I listened to the Utah State radio broadcast of the K-State NCAA tournament game. Those Utah State broadcasters where horrible. It was painfull to listen to. I turned it off at half time because I just couldn’t take it anymore. I was rooting for the Aggies to win, but I just couldn’t handle the homers complaining about the refs every time they spoke. I wouldn’t be able to listen to that crap even if I were a diehard Aggie fan.
I am fine mentioning a bad ref call, but move on. Don’t make it take over the broadcast.
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I dont like the guy
Frank Dulce? who does the commentary for the football games for the utes. Bill Riley will announce that the ball has been snapped and Dulce will go “woah!” and then a long pause.
Wrubell holds grudges for way too long. I bet he is still whining about the controversial play at the BYU-Utah game this last year.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Wrubell is nowhere close to objective
As far as I’m concerned, it’s true. Totally sees the world through a blue lens. Still, I love him.
Besides, he gives me loads of excuses to cling to when we lose. ;)
btw
nice write up on the scrimmage at VTF. You had more insight than JazzyUte……… I thought your opinions were pretty good.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks!
I tried to be as unbiased as possible. But I seriously wasn’t impressed with Harvey Langi.
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Harvey Langi is a work in progress
The guy runs upright and doesn’t get down. He needs to fix that if he wants to be the guy.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions
He definitely has the talent and potential.
But he’s raw. Coach him up a bit and he should be fine.
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palamo looks promissing though
All he has to do us learn the rules and not pitch the ball backwards and we’re in busuness.
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 1:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He was a beast
I was surprised he didn’t get more reps. He even caught a pass in the red zone.
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i think he's the frontrunner
Palamo has been getting a lot of attention and praise so far. Chow said he’s an Nfl back he just needs experience. Can’t believe the guy is a walk-on
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 2:53 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow, Chow said that?
Great praise for a walk on. If he can work on his game I wouldn’t doubt he could be a good NFL back.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 3:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
"Walk on," yes, but...
he’s a former Pro Rugby player. I think he’s 22. There was a writeup on him in the Trib.
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And the guy played Rugby 7s, which is a very fast game.
He’s quick. And at 6-2, 237, he’s also huge.
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I went to one practice
and he definitely impressed me. He made some moves that made the whole crowd cheer.
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Check out this Vid on Thretton Palano
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I watched that three times
Dude is amazing. Here’s hoping that translates over to the football field.
I noticed Blake Burdette, the Utah Rugby coach uploaded the video. I always liked him when he played football at Utah, and I was sad when he left before his senior season to go pro in rugby.
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I thought your attitude about the coaches swearing was smug and judgmental
so I responded in kind. Tit for tat.
(Coincidentally, “tit” is not a swear word either.)
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I said classic, not classy.
College coaches are expected to swear and scream at the players, everyone knows that.
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You said classy...
Look two posts down from where you said classic and you will see you also said classy.
Maybe you should read your posts before you deny.
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How are you being smug and judgemental?
Because you are trying to show how classy you are by going out of you way to call Ute fans classless.
I’ve been to enough games at the U to know what a swear word is. Get them all the time from you classy bunch. I do know some good U fans though, but there has to be at least a few right?
Tell me, do you believe BYU Fans are a morally superior people then Utah fans? Do you believe more BYU fans are
going to heaven then Utah fans? I already know the answer, it is yes. Why do so many BYU fans need to make sure Utah fans know that. I am just getting sick and tired of BYU fans telling me they are morrally superior and more classy than me. Some even going so far as comparing Utah to the great and spaceous building.
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Wow, I think you need to chill out.
That quote was a joke, I guess humor isn’t allowed from a BYU fan right? Next time I’ll be sure to refrain from cracking a joke. And I got a sarcastic remark before I gave one. That’s why I said classy.
To answer your question, the one you think you know the answer to, no, no I don’t. Sure, some BYU fans are better than U fans. But it works both ways. But I think I’ll leave you and your Napoleon complex alone. Oops, I’m not supposed to crack jokes huh? Oh well.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 2:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, I am not accustomed to BYU fans who can joke.
I apologize. Usually it is BYU fans pointing out their superiority. It is fun to point out to those people their faults of being judgemental and the like. Ultimately it is just fun to fling some names back.
As long as BYU fans consider them self more classy I will continue to point out their condescending attitude. It’s just fun to give them a mirror.
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One hears what one expects to hear...
I think that this is a classic example of what fans on BOTH sides do all the time. Many expect the worst from the other side and therefore interpret anything said or done by the other side in the worst way possible.
I’m not being judgmental here. BYU fans do it all the time too…
Ironically, however, whenever you call somebody “judgmental,” you are passing judgment on them.
Most BYU fans don’t consider themselves more classy. Just Max Hall and a few really obnoxiously loud ones, so people assume the rest of us are that way.
Who’s going to heaven? Seriously? It sounds like you’ve already decided BYU fans are not…
Seriously dude, give cougars a chance to be good people to you before you pass judgment.
Looking at my post...
I’m sure a litany of stories about how our evil nature has been verified will follow.
And if you didn't immetialty think of Patsy Cline after this post, you really are crazy.
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I have a lot of friends and family who are Cougar fans.
I give them a chance all the time. I even root for the Cougars to win when they don’t play the U. I still like to harass them.
No I have not decided BYU fans are not going to heaven. I have no idea how you came up with that one. I guess you were interpreting what I said in the worst way possible. Probably because you heard what you expected to hear.
It is true that I have decided that BYU fans have a moral superiority complex that annoys me. If you don’t see it you are blind and deaf.
It reminds me of the time I told the following joke…
A Catholic was walking with God in heaven when God turned to the catholic and said, “Shush, be quite when you pass this door.” After they passed the Catholic turned to God and asked why they had to be quiet as the passed that door. God answered by saying, “Oh the mormons are in there and they think they are alone up there.”
After I told the joke one women came up to me and said, “Well you know it’s true.”
(Note: Because I was a clean cut person who hangs out with mormons the listeners of this joke assumed I was mormon.)
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Well, I like the joke...
It’s one I tell often enough… And yes, that is soo true of Utah Mormons.
But… “It is true that I have decided that BYU fans have a moral superiority complex that annoys me. If you don’t see it you are blind and deaf.”
Wow. Just wow. Thanks for proving to me how very judgmental we are. Boy, you sure showed me.
Geez, I don’t think we have any kind of moral superiority. Then again, I also don’t think we have moral inferiority. I think there are plenty of good people all around, and we stand on equal footing, morally. Many BYU fans are the way you say, but I think it’s unfair to make that kind of generalization for us all, in the same way that some Cougs say that all Ute fans are “classless.” (Hall should go suck a …lemon…)
Statements like the one that I quoted above are everything that is wrong with the rivalry to me. People being judged by which team they cheer for. Lots of fans on both sides do it, and that post there sure makes it seem that you are one of them. I just wish that Utes and Cougs would let opposing fans be who they are regardless of wearing red or blue.
Dang
Did the o-line suck or is the d-line just awesome?
Go utes!
by utahman13 on Apr 11, 2011 6:58 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
A little of both I think.
But mostly o line sucked. But the o line has some injuries and depth is a problem. Get healthy and it should (maybe) get better.
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by sabbi on Apr 11, 2011 7:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
where is that 380 pound guy we landed? is he not playing yet.
Jon " Bones " Jones new light heavyweight champion. Even if Jones got struck flush in the face he would recover and defeat whoever is in front of him. I told everyone the fight would be easy. Almost felt sorry for Rua. Anderson Silva would never fight "Bones". He is too scared to fight the real P4P champion. The Cult of Personality is here. Also, the most honorable man is here.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 12, 2011 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Actually I think we have two guys over 350 coming this fall.
I believe they are both destined to become offensive tackles.
http://www.blocku.com/2011/3/4/2030805/utah-football-signs-benji-kemoeatu
http://www.blocku.com/2011/3/1/2023690/utah-football-signs-pou-palelei
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Hopefully they can start right away.
That line needs help.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 2:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
keep in mind,
the utah defensive line is ridiculous and the offensive line probably won’t compete against a defensive line that is that good this year. Maybe SC, but even then Im not so sure.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
But even against a good d line you shouldn't give up 7 sacks and 2 blocked passes. And comoletely fail at blocking for the run game.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 2:56 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, maybe in a spring scrimmage where we are learning a new offense we will :)
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Haha, good point.
Forgot about the new offense there for a minute.
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 3:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
non issue
John Cullen, Sam Brenner, Vyncent Jones, and a couple others did not play big minutes. I would expect Utah’s backups to yield those numbers to that D line. Not a concern.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions
That's going to be a big problem
Go utes!
by utahman13 on Apr 11, 2011 7:37 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
not time to panic
let’s see what Wynn can do in the fall. I am excited about this season. A lot of concerns, but we have the best coach in the west and a lot of talent.
Here is to a great 2011!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 8:38 AM MDT reply actions
Spring is never the time to panic.
The time to panic if there are still a bunch of problems after fall practices.
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Agreed...
The offense, without its quarterback and a depleted line, who is also learning an entirely new offense, is going to have hiccups. I’m not the least bit concerned.
Depleted line?
I don’t think Utah has a depleted O-line. Having 3 of your 5 returning starters from last years O-Line isn’t bad (Stevens, Cullin, Bergstrom). I think it’s mainly just learning a new system. The offense is always behind the defense in Spring, and not having Wynn and Devonte Christopher is a set-back for sure.
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I think there have been some o-line injuries this spring though.
I forget the details and my source. But somebody had a concussion and there was another injury or two that made the o-line thin this spring.
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that sucks
Do You know if they are serious injuries or not? also anyone know what’s going on with Nai Fotu?
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 7:47 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Unfortunately I don't have details
Kyle Whittingham said we were thin at O-line right now due to injuries in his interview. You can hear the interview at the KALL 700 audio interview with coach Whit on April 7th. He mentions it about the 4:15 mark.
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that sucks
Do You know if they are serious injuries or not? also anyone know what’s going on with Nai Fotu?
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 7:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry to hear the training is starting rough...
Many of you might already know I’m a BYU fan AND a U of U fan. Rare breed am I. Possibly the only one of my kind.
I have faith that the Utes will pull it together to make another amazing season. I think that this year will be rougher than last, as the Pac-12 boasts a tougher schedule than the MWC, but I’m saying a good 9-3 season, with a bowl win. I think there’s potential for 11-1 as long as Wynn can come back soon.
I’m thinking you’ll at least put a win over on BYU; our team is so young this year. Either way, looking forward to the game! 157 days…. Why must football season be so far away?
BYU is going to be a tough game...
Solely because it’s sandwiched between two huge conference games. You’ve got the first ever Pac-12 game the week before (roadie against SC) and then the first ever Pac-12 game at home (Washington).
The reality is, unless Utah runs the table (unlikely) the BYU game just doesn’t have as much meaning as it has in years past. That’s not to say it won’t be big, but it’s not a conference game anymore. Honestly, I’d rather Utah beat both Washington/SC and lose to BYU than beat BYU and split those two conference games.
Ideally, of course, they’d win all three…but it’s going to be a different feel.
Co-sign
It will be a big game, but it just won’t be the make-or-break game that it has been in years past. If BYU wins, the trolls will come out to pump their chests for a week or so, but thats about it. The Utes have bigger fish to fry now. It will always be awesome to beat the Y., but Pac-12 wins will be more important.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 12, 2011 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
It's still BYU
I think the fact we’re no longer in the same conference has maybe lessened the rivalry for Utah fans a little, but it made it stronger for BYU fans. For DECADES BYU has always thought of themselves as “big brother”, and now that they’re in our shadow the Holy War will mean that much more to them.
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree the game is still important
Bragging rights are always huge. I will definitely be looking forward to the game in a big way. Everyone will still care about the game and want to win.
In an imaginary world where I had to choose between going to the conference championship game and beating BYU, the choice would be simple. BYU is less important.
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Wait... Who's the "Big Bro?"
More like most cougar fans feel that you guys think you are the big bro…
Most Cougs feel like being Independent is just as good as Pac-12, and tout Notre Dame to try to prove that. To those of us who seek national recognition, not just unique-ness in our program, we recognize that beating Pac-12 teams (like you guys) is a must.
Update: Joining the West Coast Conference and going independent in football isn't as good as being in a big six conference.
That’s reality.
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Utah the "Big Bro"?
Coug fans shouldn’t feel like Utah’s the big bro, because we’re your daddy. Come on Coug fans, who’s your daddy?
While I think BYU can survive as an indi, I don’t think they’ll be able to thrive as an indi. Being part of a big-6 conference is better both financially and competitively speaking. ND is the only exception to that, but lets face it, BYU is no ND.
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 14, 2011 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
True, the Y is no ND...
Yeah, I said “most cougs” feel that indie is better; I tend to agree with you that it’s only better if we can become national football legend like ND, which is not likely. NOBODY in the history of everdom has a better winning record than ND.
If we can return to the days of Detmer, McMahon and Young, then we could pull it off. Some say Heaps is that resurrection. That has yet to be seen. After 4 terrible games to start, while finding his feet in his freshman year, he really picked up and showed promise. My verdict? Meh, possible, but not likely. I think he’ll be really good, but not Heisman good.
I think if we flub our first season as indies, we are toast. Our team is very young this year, so that might be what happens.
Bottom line, if we are able to return to glory days, then being Independent would grant us freedom and money unlike anything. It’s unlikely that we will, so I think you are right, money-wise, prestige-wise, big 6 is better in those respects.
But BYU prides itself (sometimes in a really snotty way,) on being “peculiar,” and different. (We are national legends in Rugby, Lacrosse, and volleyball, but who really cares, besides us?) I really think that BYU takes more pride in being independent than they would as part of a big 6. I think Utah is a good fit in Pac-12 and BYU is a good fit for and indie, even if not on a level of ND, more of a level of Army. We’ll do okay. I’m betting we sign into a conference in 10 years or so.
Tough game...
For BYU, Utes will be right after Ole Miss and Texas back to back, both of which will be a struggle for the Y’s young team. Might not be as tough as last year, says I. UCF is right after Utah for the Y. I think UCF is better than than most people give them credit for, but will be a welcome relief after the first few games, and especially after Utah.
I think Utes will take Washington without breaking a leg, but then you’re usually better at predictions than me, Jazzy. I say SC will be the tougher one.
Impossible
How can anyone cheer for BOTH Utah and BYU during the Holy War? That’s like wearing a fur coat while protesting at a PETA rally or sporting a Red Sox cap while you cheer for the Yankees. It just can’t be done.
You have to have a side, and since you refer to the U as “your team” and BYU as “Our team” it’s clear to see you’re what I like to call a “Bi-curios” BYU fan. It’s all good, at least there’s a little bit of light left in your soul.
by RunninUtes30 on Apr 12, 2011 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Fans of both teams don't cheer during the Holy War.
They wear white and chew thier finger nails the whole time.
They wear white.
But have a blue shirt and red shirt in their bag just in case. lol
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by sabbi on Apr 12, 2011 7:10 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously...no excuse for that Y to be anywhere near the Drum and Feather.
by JazzyUte on Apr 12, 2011 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is an abomination
Neither university should licence their trademarks for something so unnatural and wrong.
by Ute in DC on Apr 12, 2011 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously.
How can anyone wear it in good conscience? I always gag a little bit when I see these around.
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But have a blue shirt and red shirt in their bag just in case. lol
They wear white and chew thier finger nails the whole time.
You have to have a side, and since you refer to the U as "your team" and BYU as "Our team" it’s clear to see you’re what I like to call a "Bi-curios" BYU fan. It’s all good, at least there’s a little bit of light left in your soul.
Neither university should licence their trademarks for something so unnatural and wrong.
Loved them. And tell me where I can buy that hat… I’m impressed that not one person said anything insulting. Last time I admitted to being a Coug on this blog was… different.
And yes, for now, it’s clear whom I cheer for when The Holy War kicks off. But the rest of the season, I’m totally waving the red when the Utes are on the field, and Blue when the Cougs go. My parents come from feuding Scottish clans, inner conflict is in my blood.
Besides, I’m not the only one who can admit that there are some major problems with BYU culture… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u5k4bboU4&feature=related
Are. You. Kidding me
Geeze, BYU makes it too easy sometimes. As Jazzy once said: the proof is in the pudding
Fear the MUSS!!
thanks a lot, that song was stuck in my head this morning!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Apr 14, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow! I'm impressed
This is the first time a BYU fan has come on here and I don’t want to tell to go away with a bunch of classless insults! Convert over to the red side already dude!
Oh, and Ted Miller put a link to this blog on his ESPN blog. We are awesome now!
You talking to me or rome?
Rome is a purple fan (red+blue=purple) so he’s already on the red side. But the blue side also.
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May I vote that he is talking to romebig ;)
You are ok for a bluegar. I just don’t trust you and your sneeky spying ways.
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Haha, sneaky spying way?
I secretly send Bronco scouting reports on the U once a week. ;)
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by sabbi on Apr 13, 2011 1:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Be wary, lest I lull you into false security.
Just can’t trust a cougar you know… I don’t mean to be racist, but it’s those eyes, you never know what they are thinking…
Are you referencing the recent Deadspin article about BYU?
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I'm already on the red side?
I think I’m more in the purple side. Even though I have red hair, I wear a blue shirt to offset.
I am true Purple and Red
Purple veins and red blood. A degree from Weber and the U.
None of the upper crust blue blood in me.
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