Ranking the Pac-12 stadiums
We've ranked their coaches, so why not their stadiums?
As Utah moves to the Pac-12, the first thing fans will notice is just how much larger the football stadiums will be.
In our old conference, the smallest stadium was the 33,500 War Memorial Stadium in Laramie, Wyoming. Now, it's the 37,600 Martin Stadium in Pullman, Washington - which is larger than two Mountain West stadiums and roughly the same size as New Mexico's.
The largest, of course, will be the Coliseum - which seats a staggering 93,607.
Quite the step up.
So not only will Utah be playing in front of larger crowds, they'll also be playing in more historic stadiums with histories that trump much of anything seen in the Mountain West.
What stadium is the best, though? It's hard to pick because I think there are some fine facilities in the conference all around. That's why I'm going to rate them all in a few categories instead of just one overall category and from there, hopefully we can extract the answer. The rankings after the jump...
The categories:
- Fan quality - Is the stadium almost always packed? Are the fans loud?
- Stadium quality - Is the facility in need of repair or is it state-of-the-art?
- Student section - You've gotta have a good student section in college football, right?
- Stadium tradition - Has the stadium seen some of college football's greatest moments?
- Stadium surroundings - What's the area like surrounding the stadium? Is there a spectacular view?
So, the rankings...
| Stadium | Fan Quality | Stadium Quality | Student Section | Stadium Tradition | Stadium Surroundings | Average |
| Arizona Stadium | 3 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 10 | 6 |
| Autzen Stadium | 1 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 6 | 3.4 |
| Folsom Field | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4.2 |
| Husky Stadium | 2 | 8 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 3.8 |
| The Coliseum | 6 | 7 | 8 | 2 | 11 | 6.8 |
| Martin Stadium | 10 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 8 | 8.2 |
| Reser Stadium | 7 | 5 | 7 | 10 | 7 | 7.2 |
| Rice-Eccles Stadium | 4 | 3 | 3 | 9 | 3 | 4.4 |
| Rose Bowl | 9 | 11 | 10 | 1 | 4 | 7 |
| Stanford Stadium | 11 | 1 | 11 | 11 | 9 | 8.6 |
| Sun Devil Stadium | 8 | 10 | 6 | 3 | 5 | 6.4 |
Based on the average ranking, here's how the Pac-12 stadiums break down:
- Autzen Stadium
- Husky Stadium
- Folsom Field
- Rice-Eccles Stadium
- Arizona Stadium
- Sun Devil Stadium
- L.A. Coliseum
- Rose Bowl
- Reser Stadium
- Martin Stadium
- Stanford Stadium
Now obviously this is all subjective on my part and you may disagree with the placement of stadiums in their respective rankings. I should point out that while I might've ranked the Rose Bowl at 9th in fan quality, it's not necessarily because I think they're awful fans. In fact, I'd wager there is minimal difference between 6th and 9th.
What I do know is that the Rose Bowl has a lot of history and a great location, but the stadium itself is so massive and the Bruins rarely sell out (they averaged 60,376 in 2010 - 30,000 or so less than capacity) that as a Pac-12 stadium, and not as a Rose Bowl game stadium, it comes up short.
I feel like I was overly hard on Stanford. Maybe I was and I think they've definitely got the nicest stadium in the conference due to its relative youth, but their fans? Well let's just say they averaged 10,000-less than capacity during arguably the best season in school history.
I don't really think I need to defend the top-level stadiums, since we all knew Autzen would rank first due to its intimidating fans and overall quality of the stadium. Husky Stadium is one of my favorites in the conference with its great view of Lake Washington and though it's in dire need of renovation, the fans are some of the loudest and most impressive in the conference.
But I'd like to hear what you think. Am I way off on these rankings? Could be. Where would you rank each stadium?
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pretty good list as is ...
… and don’t feel bad for ranking Stanford that low. No one ever goes to those games. The new stadium is nice, but its not like they went all out for it. They belong in last place – even below the ice rink the Cougs play in.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Ouch Gekko
I thought we’d get some support from you
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Well, I lived in SF for seven years and went to three or four games a year....
… And observing the scant crowd boo Curtis Williams after a collision in which he broke his neck and would eventually die from was one of the more poignant moments in my evolution as a sports fan. I’ve always enjoyed Palo Alto, but I don’t get the football fan base down there.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
thats dangerous territory here.....
I think I speak for a lot of ute fans when I say that we all kind of go on alert when you say that someone is a cougar fan. It takes us a minute to realize that its a conference rival from Pullman and not a troll from Zoobalee Zoo.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jul 19, 2011 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed.
From now on, let’s just assume when people say Coug or Cougars they are referring to Washington State. Not only does this make sense given our new conference, it will also eventually have the effect of really pissing off BYU fans.
I keep accidentally eating my pets. Maybe I should get something less appetizing, like a cat instead of a Twinkie.
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by CrimsonUte on Jul 19, 2011 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
Pissing of BYU fans is something many of us can enjoy.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
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JS and I actually agree on something...
This and the fact that Beckham is a sexy beast.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Stanford can go to hell
I lived in SF for 5 years myself and have no time for Stanford fans
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Whoops ... Apologies.
I actually respect very much the dedication of Coug fans. The flag at every game day and soccer boy are great testaments toyour fan base.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
1. Autzen stadium
2. The coliseum
3. Husky stadium
4. Rose bowl
5. Rice-Eccles stadium
6. Sun devil stadium
7. Folsom field
8. Reser stadium
9. Arizona stadium
10. Stanford stadium
11. Martin stadium
Go utes!
by utahman13 on Jul 17, 2011 11:52 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah I completely agree...also has the worst visitors section in the Pac-12, maybe the country
You are shit out of luck if you came without binoculars
I take offense to that
The Coliseum is one of the safest places to see a game, half of the entire LAPD is on duty there.
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
...same thing applies.
There are LAPD everywhere. It’s not like they stay in the stadium after the game. If you want to say on other days fine, I would agree. However gameday is pretty safe for everyone but Coug players. They have been abused for years.
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
As you said, this is all subjective, but let me say a word for Martin Stadium
I’d like to point out that WSU has the one of the highest percentage of seats available to students in the whole country, and I believe we’re 2nd behind only Texas A&M. Roughly 1/3 of the available seats are student seating. So I’m not sure why the student section is rated so low. Plus our student section is actually larger than all the other Pac-10 schools, not just by proportion, tied for 1st with USC (see here). And by and large the students always come. We had two abysmal years in which (unfortunately) large sections of the students found better things to do with their time than witness three touchdown deficits before the end of the 1st quarter, but over the last 20 years or so the student section always got a good turnout.
That said, I don’t really disagree with any of the other ratings for WSU. A lot of Cougs do prefer the small town atmosphere with the stadium smack in the middle of campus, so we’d probably rate the “Surroundings” higher but I can understand if you don’t. I can point out that six years ago the “fan quality” rating would be very different, and not many of the old Pac-10 schools can point to massive attendance during significant down years (UW, Oregon and maybe ASU are the exceptions). Plus we are the only school where the main stadium population does not live within 50 miles of campus, making it extra difficult for ticket holders to trek to the games when we’re bad. Besides, have you been to Pullman in the winter? Of course, those are just excuses. Maybe they’re legitimate but the rankings are fair too.
I’ve only been to a few other Pac-10 stadiums and neither of the two new Pac-12 schools. UW’s stadium is a slab of concrete in a gorgeous setting but I have been impressed by the fans even when the team isn’t that good. The Rose Bowl is big, that’s about it. Reser is kind of nice but I was not a fan of Corvallis so I’d rate the surroundings very low. Autzen is loud and intimidating for the most part, and actually I’ve had good experiences with Duck fans. The ASU stadium seemed pretty nice but the fan experience was sort of blah, probably because I attended when they were in the middle of yet another disappointing season. I’d put Martin up against most of those but I obviously am biased, and I have vivid memories of sold out stadiums with insane student sections (oh, was it only 8 years ago when we won 10 games?).
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by johnnycougar on Jul 18, 2011 12:11 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
He has a point...
Pac10 fan bases are fickle – especially in the big cities. Coug fans have the most endurance by a wide margin
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
I would add a few things to what johnnycougar has said here
I can agree that Autzen is pretty much the standard bearer right now in the conference, but having been to both Autzen and Husky Stadium as well as our home in Martin, there is no way Husky Stadium deserves to be that high. Fan support has been the definition of minimal the last few years, especially by their glory years standards. Stadium quality should be a 13 out of 12 if you’ve ever been there and while the surroundings are great the U district in Seattle is surrounded by some of the worst parts of Seattle.
Both UW and WSU are on the brink of renovating in major ways, and in the case of WSU we have completed a couple of stages of renovations the last few years. I’m not going to sit here and say Martin should be #1, I don’t think we can claim that at all, but I would definitely advocate for some upward mobility especially within the next few years. Coug fans have endured some rough years, but they always find their way home when the Cougs begin playing well. Johnny wasn’t wrong about the student section either, we have the Legion of the Coug in the crowd every game, as well as a ton of others, and personally I haven’t missed a home game since I arrived in Pullman in 2004. Off the top of my head that’s at or around 42 straight home games and I know there are some people that have been there with me for just about every one of them.
Right now I guess I can mostly agree with the list as is, just with some adjustments to UW and WSU’s standings respectively. In the coming years this should be revisited because UW is going nuts with their renovations and WSU is adding on as well as building a completely new football facility into the renovations either and with our AD having been the man that orchestrated those famous Oregon locker rooms and facilities improvements I’d expect nothing less for the Cougs.
I know most Ute fans can't wait for our stadium to expand...
It’s set to expand to about 60,000 with, I hear, potential for an upper-deck on the east-side, but that seems unlikely right now.
I did this last year and shows what the stadium would look like expanded:

by JazzyUte on Jul 18, 2011 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That looks beautiful makes me want to cry Lmao
Are you sure he was safe? It looked like an out to the entire statium. Well bad call Blue.
by Alavel on Jul 19, 2011 1:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Personally I don't want to see the corners closed in.
But whatever we do if/when the stadium is expanded, I hope we take some cues from Autzen, and build it in such a way, that the sound comes down onto the field. We need to make the stadium loud and raucous.
I want it to always shake the way it did when BJ hooked up with Freddie Brown.
If you are tweaking those spots then you are using different criteria than the author.....
….and I would heartily disagree that the U district is surrounded by some of the worst parts of Seattle unless you consider Green Lake, Wallingford, and Montlake the dregs.
The truth of the matter is that outside the small but boisterous Coug fan base (and the Beavs to a lesser extent), PAC 10 fan bases all show their fickleness during lean years. I don’t see how UW is any different in that regard, especially when you look at USC, UCLA, ASU, CAL and Stanford. That doesn’t offset the history, the noise (loudest ever observed), the setting (between the bay and the lake), the tailgating by boat, the campus (with Rainier in the horizon) and the variety of pre and post game options that Seattle has to offer.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Must… not… fight…
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Not to nitpick
But Wallingford and Greenlake are both on the otherside of the freeway (aka the other side of town) from UW and Montlake is well south of the campus.
Roosevelt and the U-District themselves are very slummy.
by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Just to nitpick
Montlake is a stone’s throw from campus.
Bringing Purple to Pullman
by Harry the Husky on Jul 19, 2011 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I have been told by UW fans on numerous occasions though that UW is not located in Montlake.
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by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 19, 2011 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Roosevelt is further away than either Green Lake or Wallingford.
I’ve lived in all of them
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Ugh
UW was still quadrupling our attendance even during their 0-12 season. Our numbers have dropped significantly during our dark years.
And you used bandwagon WSU evidence of our fans being better. That does not hold up. WSU fans for the most part do not care. And no, the Legion of Coug is not evidence to the contrary.
by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 19, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Estimations for Memorial Stadium...
Memorial Stadium (old):
Fan Quality: 4-6ish
Stadium Quality: 9-11ish (this would be why it’s getting a nice upgrade)
Student Section: 3-5ish (seriously, the only section that makes noise… the other side of the stadium is a graveyard)
Stadium Tradition: 2-3ish (1923-2010 will do that for you. Plus, The Play)
Stadium Surroundings: 1-3ish (called one of, if not the, most beautiful stadium settings in the country. Nestled in a canyon; look over the East rim for a view of a Pacific sunset through the Golden Gate Bridge)
Husky Stadium should get a really nice bump in stadium quality after next season.
The Apple Cup at the end of this season, and all of next season will be played at CenturyLink (formerly Qwest) while they tear down the old Husky Stadium and give it a very badly needed renovation. Hopefully we’ll miss you guys next year and you’ll be able to come to the new Husky Stadium in the 2013 season.
by Mind of no mind on Jul 18, 2011 1:15 AM MDT reply actions
Loudest stadium ever recorded.
Probably going to get louder, after the rebuild. They’re lowering the field, removing the track, and bringing the two grandstands that much closer together.
i would rate rice eccles higher just because of the scenary.
only stadium with over 10,000 foot beautiful mountain peaks on both sides and we are an olympic stadium. plus you can see the whole valley and downtown SLC.
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jul 18, 2011 3:18 AM MDT reply actions
Agree
I am not sure why it is ranked so low in surrounding area. I think it is one of the most scenic stadiums I have ever seen.
I just think
that he was trying not to be a blatant homer.
Bill Riley made a blog post several months back. He ranked the MWC arenas and put the Huntsman first, not because it was the best, but because it was his favorite. you should have seen the BYU fans start crying! It was truly comical!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jul 18, 2011 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions
That isn't low
Once you start getting around to the nicer places in your new conference, you’ll understand. We have some truly spectacular stadium settings in the Pac. IMHO, there’s nothing like being able to see both the mountains and the ocean.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 18, 2011 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly...
Pac-12 stadiums have some ridiculously gorgeous settings and views. Hell, even the Coliseum has a backdrop of 10,000 foot peaks on a clear day! RES and Folsom are strong contenders for the top spots but I’m sticking with my homerish pick of Strawberry Canyon / Memorial at sunset as best setting / view in the conference, just barely ahead of Washington.

One thing I like about the surrounding area of Rice Eccles
Is that the surrounding neighborhoods are nice. I always walk home after a game. The crowds walking home are pretty large. Are there any other stadiums in the P12 where large numbers of fans can walk home?
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
WSU
If you don’t mind walking to Seattle.
All the Pullman people (WSU) can walk home if they live in town
You can basically walk from the stadium to almost anywhere in town in less than 30 minutes.
"Ignorance is the parent of fear." ~Melville
by johnnycougar on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I can't walk home...
I doubt most Ute fans can walk home. If you live around the stadium, great. But I live in SugarHouse and that’s roughly a few miles south of RES and I ain’t gonna walk home, especially late in November!
Sugarhouse is downhill you wimp ;)
I have walked home to both a downtown condo and also where I live now in the Liberty Heights/Sugar House area.
When I first leave the stadium there are always throngs of people walking with me through the surrounding neighborhoods. Admittedly, by the time I get home I am the only one remaining still walking from the game. It is a really nice area and completely safe though. No worries walking at night or anything.
It is probably a good thing people can walk and there is light rail because road access is limited by the mountains. Basically if you leave driving you must go South or West. I have always wondered how bad it is to get out of there driving but I don’t stick around to find out.
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I think RES is probably one of the most accessible stadiums in the country...
You’re right. Since it’s nestled between the campus and a residential neighborhood, a lot of people can walk to the games.
Or they can take light rail. I’ve taken light rail before if I’m not at home prior to the game, but the line doesn’t head up my way and it’s easier to just go drive there instead of hitting the line on 33th South and taking it down to the stadium.
I normally park in the residential area just off Sunnyside Ave and walk up Guardsman Way to the tailgate lot.
The worst episode I ever had was after the BYU game in ’08. I went with my ex and her besty and after the game, it was dark and I was drunk and forgot where the hell we parked. Spent like an hour wandering up every residential street looking for the car (because I had parked somewhere in the nest of residential streets just east of where I normally park – so on the other side of Greenwood Terrace, which goes into Guardsman).
That was an adventure.
Don't you guys need snow shoes after some of the games?
You are at like 4200 feet.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Ha ha. Nah.
Usually the heavy snow doesn’t hit the valley until December or January. You can get an inch or two of snow sometimes in November or even October, but it often melts the next day, so you don’t get a lot of accumulation.
There was a bad snowstorm for the 2003 Utah/BYU game in Provo. Other than that, I can’t think of many games over the last decade or so that had serious snowfall. And I’m even including games in Colorado Springs, Fort Collins CO and Laramie WY.
I won’t lie though, as a fan you often wear a coat or at least a couple of jackets to the games by the end of the football season.
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I figured Utah
would get snow earlier than Pullman. Sometimes we get some early snow, so I thought for sure the SLC and the stadium be nestled near the hillside would bring more snow than we get. Same with Boulder.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Usually . . .
Since we do get a lot of snow, the DOT ( usually, knock on my ex’s head, ) plans ok for it and is pretty good about removing it.
As for when the snow hits, that’s always a big question for us too. The first snowfall can happen as early as October or sometimes as late as February. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes not. Even if the snow doesn’t hit in late fall, chances are it will still be rather cold.
Just file “Utah Weather” in your vocabulary between “Erratic” and “What the Hell?”. The joke is that you can ski/board in the morning and play a round of 18 in the afternoon.
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
That's no joke!
With the ski areas 4500 feet higher in elevation and only 45 minutes away, you can do that easily in the late fall and late spring.
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This past year is a great example
We had a bit of snow stick for a few days in October, than a little bit to cause a few ice patches in the stadium for the BYU game.
Nothing till about mid December.
Than it didn’t really stop snowing till Late April.
Also remember that Utah is the 2nd driest state next to Nevada...
We’re a desert, so the weather is often extremely weird.
Back in 2007, I attended a home game in late September and sat through a blizzard. It was miserable. Two weeks prior, against UCLA, it was sunny and shorts weather.
You can’t predict it. In ’08, during an October game against Oregon State at night, I was wearing shorts.
Against TCU last year, it was as warm as I’ve ever experienced at a November game.
But a few weeks later, against BYU, I was freezing my butt off (no snow, though).
The thing is, while it snows, the snow doesn’t really start becoming an issue until December/January. I can only remember a handful of games where snow was noticeable enough to be a discomfort.
Wind, and Chill are a bigger factor
As you alluded to, it can still be bitter freaking cold, with clear skies. Although for me all year is Shorts weather, I’m excited for the years we get those Cali/AZ teams in November.
Were you that guy in my major who always wore shorts and sandals with socks all winter?
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That's basically my Wardrobe
If it weren’t for work, I’d never wear anything but T-Shirts, Shorts and Sandals (Except for at Ute games where I have a pair of Utah Sneakers).
Good to know.
After games do you usually carry cash with you?
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Are you asking for safety reasons?
Some cash is good to have for grabbing a bite to eat or taking the light rail. I’ve never heard of pickpockets in Salt Lake, and you couldn’t get mugged if you wanted to.
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You couldn't get mugged near the stadium.
You could get mugged in Magna or West Valley or at Liberty or Pioneer parks, or over by the baseball field.
Still, it would take some work.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Jul 21, 2011 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry, I guess I don't usually post here, so you are not used to my dry sarcasm.
Or maybe you are being sarcastic right back at me.
You have talked a lot about where you live, where you walk, sometimes it is at night, sometimes you are alone and it is very safe. I was implying that I need to know how much cash you are carrying, because now I know when and where to jump you. I am joking of course.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
That's what I get for taking someone seriously
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If you are jumping people for cash, you must be carrying a lot of cash.
Do you wear any distinctive WSU gear?
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
Keep in mind that the list is not in order of nicest to least nice.
Rice Eccles is ranked 4th overall and 3rd in scenary. That’s pretty high.
by Mind of no mind on Jul 18, 2011 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Utah Scenary
It can be nice but only if you look one direction. If you look the other way past the holy land temple, you see flat dust plains and slums. All of this assuming your not so overrun by the inversion that makes it impossibe to see the sky or mountain tops at all.
by joejoejohnson on Jul 19, 2011 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
So which view did you not like?





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by CrimsonUte on Jul 19, 2011 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I should point out the second to last one looks like July or August (not football season)
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To answer you question: # 4 and 5
The SLC skyline is hardly interesting compared to Seattle, LA, SF, or Phx. The mountains are awesome.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Too bad they probably wouldn't let us tailgate there.
I’ve never tried, but that sounds like some good irreverent fun.
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It would be awesome
if you play a home game on Halloween.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 20, 2011 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's the bad side he's talking about.
But is it really that bad? Especially when all you have to do is turn your head a little to see the other views?
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I like Salt Lake City's skyline...
It’s not grand, mind you, but for a city our size, it’s pretty.
I took this last month from a railyard just west of downtown.

by JazzyUte on Jul 20, 2011 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, I don't care what anyone says,
this really is a beautiful town. Nice pic, man!
by -FeloniousMonk on Jul 20, 2011 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions
You can't really see the slums from the stadium, though...

You’re right – the western part of Salt Lake City leaves a lot to be desired. The area is ugly, flat and no one would ever think it’s a good view…

But Salt Lake City is also a larger city. It’s diverse in the sense that you’ve got a lot of different type of development all around. Like any city, you’re going to have ugly neighborhoods with high industrial and rundown housing.

Fortunately, none of that can be seen from the stadium (well, mostly).
I also like that the stadium can be seen from nearly all over the valley. Not sure there are many stadiums that dominate the skyline quite like RES.

Yeah, but
even the northwest part of Salt Lake, with the industrial stuff and rundown homes, is not that bad. Anyone who says there are slums in Utah has never been to real slums.
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by CrimsonUte on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
From the view of the first picture
You can’t see anything when looking that way. Stupid Sun!
And yes, your #2 and #3 pictures are a bleh industrial zone
but they’re 5-6 miles from campus and tucked back behind Capitol Hill out of view. You do see them from the airport, but they’re out of site, out of mind when you’re at a game.
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Dennis Dodd CBSSports.com Senior Writer: Top 25 College Football Stadiums
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14733939/dodd-top-25-college-football-stadiums
Where is RES? #25 Only three other Uni’s from the 12-pac are listed higher putting them right there at the 4th spot.
I think the rankings might be more interesting
if you assigned every team attributes on a 1-10 scale rather than a 1-12 ranking. There’s a big gap between #2 and #3 in tradition, and a lot of the stadiums deserve more points for being pretty… the Rose Bowl wouldn’t rank #4 in most conferences.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
Maybe you're right...
And I definitely agree about the tradition part. Once you get outside L.A., the tradition drops dramatically for each stadium. Even Sun Devil Stadium, which I put for its hosting of the annual Fiesta Bowl for so many years, can’t sniff the history of the Rose Bowl or Coliseum.
Pac-12 stadiums
Have been to the Rose Bowl, L.A. memorial coliseum, RES, Husky Stadium, Sun Devil Stadium, and UCB’s memorial coliseum. Hoping to see the others in the future.
I can’t believe that Folsom only got a 2 for stadium surroundings. the view from folsom is hard to beat and the fact that the coliseum got an 11 being surrounded by sprawls and smog, I don’t buy it.
No Dummy! Folsom finished 2nd in the conference for that particular category.
:D I keed, I keed. I was confused at first too. Lower number = better.
by -FeloniousMonk on Jul 18, 2011 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
No. #2 is their ranking.
I ranked Husky Stadium #1 in terms of views, Colorado #2, Utah #3, Rose Bowl #4 and so on…
you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
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by SoCalCoug on Jul 21, 2011 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I should ban any reference to that awful, awful movie on my blog.
by JazzyUte on Jul 21, 2011 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best stupid movie ever
Dolphins and sharks are natural enemies. Dolphins are like, "Quit eating us," and sharks are like, "Stop smiling all the time, you morons."
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by CrimsonUte on Jul 22, 2011 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Saw it Twice . . .
And that was one time too many.
If anyone found my snowboarding gloves after storming the field following the 2004 TDS game, I want them back!
Sigh
I guess being surrounded by trees and having views of the hills or the blue sky (or Hoover Tower) qualify as pretty bad. Or hosting a Super Bowl, NFL games, World Cup matches, USA-USSR athletic competitions or Presidential speeches means we have a terrible stadium tradition. Or that the students were the only ones that showed up during the 2000s qualifies as worst in the West. Or that less than 5% of the Bay Area holds a Stanford degree.
But hey, we made a list! We’ll take it.
Sorry...
But I can’t count the old Stanford stadium because that doesn’t exist anymore. Utah is in the exact same boat as you guys. Our stadium was built in the 1920s and saw some great football over the years. They tore it down in 1997, however, and totally rebuilt a new one. the Only thing that remains from the old stadium is the south end zone bleachers and that was built in the 60s.
In my mind, RES is only 14 years old. Stanford Stadium, while maybe on the same lot, is an entirely new stadium. Therefore, its history is new.
If that's true
Then Cal fans will be assuredly upset when this topic comes up again in two years. They will have lost what was probably the biggest college football play in American history.
I think Cal might have an argument, though...
Since they’re at least keeping some of the stadium. There is nothing kept from the old Stanford Stadium to the new. It changed its look, seating capacity, style – everything.
I mean, do we consider the TD Garden in Boston one of the most tradition-rich arenas in professional basketball because it replaced the Garden?
Na’. Just as the United Center isn’t Chicago Stadium and Invesco Field is NOT MIle High Stadium.
Every stadium has a view of the blue sky, to be fair.
Stanford Stadium’s weakness as far as surroundings is the sprawl of the campus and the distance involved. Pretty much every Pac-12 stadium has genial surroundings. Even the Coliseum’s Exposition Park is much nicer than it is given credit for It should definitely be ahead of Reser for tradition and surroundings though.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
I put it last in tradition because I am not counting the old Stanford Stadium...
Which does not exist anymore. What they saw wasn’t just a renovation, it was demolition and reconstruction.
IMO, it’s a new stadium, even if it shares the same land as the old one.
I've been to all the Pac-10 stadiums...
I agree with your method (categories) but I have to disagree with your results. Here’s how I would break it down:
1. Autzen – Good facilities, awesome atmosphere, pretty good fans, loud a shell. I don’t care what they say, it often rains in Autzen stadium.
2. Husky Stadium – fantastic location, good fans, loud as hell too. Could use an upgrade on facilities and looks like it will get them.
3. Memorial Stadium – Awesome location / setting, decent fans, great student section, hideous facilities (but on the upgrade).
4. Arizona Stadium – great fans, loud as hell, pretty decent facilities, Tuscon is a great town.
5. Reser Stadium – Good fans, fun student section, facilities are so-so, in-outs with liquor near by, what it lacks in size it makes up for in character. Corvalis is fun as hell, Meet you at the top of the cock.
6 Martin Stadium – Awesome fans and student section, decent facilities, miserable location. Good luck at the Pullouse in November! Still a great place to watch a game.
7. Stanfurd Stadium – best facilities, not a bad location (plenty of tailgate room), fan participation is optional but congenial. All and all, better than the big boy stadiums at other schools.
8. Coliseum – Of the big stadiums, this place is the best b/c U$C usually can fill the seats. That said, the fans are arrogant asses and for the 10th time, I am not impressed with a white horse prancing the sidelines. The facilities are eh. The surroundings? Are you kidding me? Run as fast as you can.
9. Rose Bowl – Pretty damn nice place really, but just too damned big for UCLA to fill up. Plus, the student section is ho-hum. I do like tailgating on a golf course. The setting is nice.
10. Sundevil Stadium – Big, aging facility with more ho-hum fans. I am not impressed with the student section. The setting is pretty cool but Tempe is sucktacular and sheriff Joe’s boys do not care too much for your rights. Been there twice, both experiences forgettable.
LA memorial coliseum
I am not impressed with the guy in roman toga riding around on the horse either, but they have got a cool band so does Stanford, and their SONG GIRLS are the BEST!! :) Better than the Dallas ones too. On that basis alone, I would give them a bump in the student section category.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Jul 18, 2011 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Oregon's cheerleaders are unreal.
And I’m a Huskies fan.
by morg on Jul 18, 2011 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
the guy cheerleaders ruin that picture for me. however,
the two blondes form each end are better looking than any of the four usc women.
Public Enemy #1 and enjoying every minute of it.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jul 18, 2011 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Less clothes for you...
Link, just in case it’s too much for the workplace (No nudity)
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"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
Less dudes for you...

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"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
Why is Arizona State not listed?
I can’t paste a pic, but it’s a valid question.
by Classless Ute on Jul 19, 2011 1:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That's because all of ASU really hot coeds are doing porn
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
yeah...
She was a cheerleader too
by Classless Ute on Jul 19, 2011 3:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
How many times can I rec this?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jul 19, 2011 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm curious why you have Sun Devil Stadium
ranked over Husky Stadium in the “Stadium Tradition” category. Really?
Fiesta Bowl...
The stadium has seen some great college football games. Now while the Fiesta Bowl isn’t played there anymore, it still has hosted those games.
Lot of champions were crowned on that field – even the first ever BCS champion.
You also have to realize Husky Stadium has about 50 more years of tradition.
But I get where you’re going.
Ah. Fiesta Bowl
Probably makes more sense to just look at the home team, but I suppose if you’re going to include the Rose Bowl for UCLA you have to include the Fiesta Bowl for ASU.
Only 1 issue...
Arizona – fan quality #3? Get ready for them to make it rain. Sure, it rains in Oregon…but just water. In Tucson, it can rain all kinds of strange things though… like jack daniels bottles (watch video), batteries, coins. You may think, “that would never happen to me”, but nobody is safe, not even the cheeleaders.
Student section #1? They can be loud, sure, but they are not so great with numbers, or, specifically, that you don’t rush the field when your opponent is down by 7 points with 30 seconds to go because they might just tie it up.

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by MarineCorpsDuck on Jul 18, 2011 4:48 PM MDT reply actions
I remember that game...
I was watching it as it happened. Boneheaded and embarrassing move by Wildcat fans. I hope they’ve learned their lesson that no one likes premature celebration.
That stuff, though, is trivial. I was down there in 2004 when Utah played Arizona. That was back before they were competitive under Stoops and the crowd was fierce. I was impressed.
Yeah...
The prematurely rushing the field thing was just kind of funny. Throwing all that crap at our team and eventually knocking out one of our cheerleaders was terrible. I mean…throwing a Jack Daniels bottle? Really? That video was amazing to me the first time I saw it. It’s just a hail storm of debris.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Jul 18, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Here at Utah, when things get tough, we just show our boobies...
by JazzyUte on Jul 18, 2011 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets try this again
Well, I guess you guys have to distinguish your school from BYU.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I am interested in your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
Duck fans calling out another fan base for boorish behavior is interesting...
…given the widespread opinion that Duckers are the rudest in the PAC 10
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
The majority of people polled never visited Autzen. Even if that was UW as the “rudest”, I wouldn’t use it outside of a couple jabs when it first came out.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
I was at Autzen in 2009
Sat right in the middle of a Ducks season ticket holder section too. One guy was really grumpy that we were there, but a bunch of folks took the time to talk to us an wish us well. Of course, we weren’t conference foes then, and Utah also lost, which I’m sure took some of the edge off. But overall it was a good experience.
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I’ve been planing on doing a social experiment and spend two years dressing up and acting like an opponent fan before and after the game, and getting someone else to video tape it.
I think it could be enlightening.
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"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
You should ... But you have to go as a Dawg, a Coug a Beav or a Trojan.
…seriously, I’ve done this trip a few times. I lived in Portland and it was always a good time with friends. I get that it is a minority of fans … And I’m on record many times for calling out the class of the guys on ATQ…but going to Autzen as a fan of an opposing team is as bad as going to a Raiders game decked in 49er gear. Maybe its better now with the UO winning streak and all, but it was bad in the late 90s and early 2000s. I wasn’t surprised by the 2009 SI poll
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
I've been to Autzen several times and haven't had a problem since '97
Going into Husky Stadium wearing Cougar gear isn’t exactly a picnic either.
No one has ever been mistreated at Husky Stadium
They are classy fans.
/sarcasm
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by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 20, 2011 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I've been to about 30 games in 8 stadiums in the last three years.
Autzen Stadium was by far the worst experience I have ever had in college football. Other fan experiences have been negative, but I’ve never actually been afraid for my safety anywhere but Autzen.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
I was surprised about them being listed so high on fan quality too
If you ask all the other Pac10 schools, I doubt you would get so high a rating.
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Yet I’ve talked with USC fans after the last game you guys had at Autzen, and they were going “You guys are INSANE!”
I thanked him for coming and I asked him if he still had a fun visit, and he said he had an awesome time, despite the loss.
I felt like the guy that said “So, other than the things that happened, what did you think of the play Mrs. Lincoln?”
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"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
I think attendance during lean times is a pretty nice indicator of a quality fanbase.
It’s easy to support your team when they’re on top. But with some teams, you wonder where all those people were back when the team stuggled.
by Mind of no mind on Jul 18, 2011 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions
In Zona's case
The only reason they sold ANY student tix for the longest time is because it was required that you buy football tix to get the much more highly coveted Zona Men’s BB tickets.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
That's what Utah needs to do for basketball...
Our basketball student section sucks. But we’ve got one of the best in the west for football.
How would you rate this?
Losses verses amount of fans at a game. A ratio or what? Then the last 3 years we would be doing pretty good. In the last 3 seasons we are 5-32 and some fans still showed up. It has felt like the death penalty. I don’t think SMU ever had a 3 year stretch like this. I don’t think anyone (in the Pac12) can compete with that.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Utah's been there...
From 1974-77, the Utes went 8-36 – with back-to-back one-win seasons.
1974: 1-10
1975: 1-10
1976: 3-8
1977: 3-8
Doesn't count.
Most of this occurred before the US Bicentennial.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Also, SMU had an awful, awful stretch post-death penalty...
From ’93-95, they went 4-26. That was a bit after their death penalty.
From ‘89 to ’95, SMU went 13-61 – and that wasn’t even the worst record during that stretch. Ohio went 11-62 and Kent State 8-68!
So while it’s bad at Washington State, some programs have seen it much worse over a prolonged period.
Hell, from 1989 to 2000 – my childhood! Kent went 16-115-1. Imagine an entire decade 3-8 is your best season!
I am aware that there have been worse teams.
My over-exaggerated comment, was to point out how bad we have been. Though after typing it I realized it really isn’t that over exaggerated. SMU at least had the death penalty as an excuse…that is what I was saying. Don’t forget SMU’s tie against TAMU in ‘94. We have our excuses as well, but nothing like the death penalty. Kent St. really? They aren’t even in a BCS conference, but I get your point. It must be nice to now hear BCS conference and be apart of that.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
I like this,
it means UW achieved an infinite attendance ratio when they had some fans show up despite a 0-12 season.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
If you were to come up with a formula, it would be pretty complicated,
because you also would have to factor in how many people the school has to draw from. Considering how far Pullman is from from Seattle (5 hour drive), where a large portion of WSU’s alumni live, you can be more forgiving when they don’t hit capacity during such a bad stretch.
by Mind of no mind on Jul 21, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
just terrible and I mean really. really terrible!
Sun Devil stadium is a more than a little worse for the wear these days, but the setting and surroundings are the best of any stadium in the country. It’s nestled snuggley between two buttes—if you have nosebleed seats you can see Tempe Town Lake—the surroundings are breathtaking. A refurbishing project is in the works. In any case it’s a travesty to rank Arizona Stadium over SDS, that ugly mess in Tucson is the most dangerous stadium in the conference for opposing fans—ask anybody who’s been in the conference for more than month.
How many of these other stadiums have hosted a super bowl, fiesta bowls, and insight bowls?
There should have been a category for “homefield advantage” or an attempt to quantify it.
IMO Rice-Eccles only trails Autzen,
ASU has the best party surroundings of any stadium in the PAC - hands down!
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
This is an uneducated list
My home stadium is Reser. i have been to:
Autzen (probably 100 times)
Husky Stadium
Memorial
Rosebowl
So im not an expert!
but i can say that for foreign fans (which is what you are if you are using this list)
Autzen is in a gravelpit and the weather is usually overcast. The surroundings are dismal. There is no There there.
Husky Stadium has the absolutely worst concessions, seating, traffic patterns and filth of any big stadium i have been too. The Lake is there but your feet are stuck to the old grimy asphault by gum and layers of spilled coke. It looks like its never been washed. The stadium is a horseshoe deadended on both sides so you get stuck in the flow of people. And the seats go very high but there is no bowl so the sight lines suck.
Memorial has seats so close together you cant be comfortable. The walk up to the stadium is through a stinky part of berkeley with so many stoned hippies it unreal. The concessions and restrooms are also unacceptably bad.
Rosebowl has fans that dont care much and look at you funny if you show any enthusiasm. There is very little college atmosphere at the game or around the stadium. Everybody acts like they have something else they would rather be doing.
Obviously i am negatively reporting about each of these places but these are the GOOD stadiums in the conference. The others are actually worse: Martin stadium is not usually high on anyone’s list. Stanford stadium has all the excitement of a chess match between buffy and biff. The Coliseum is in an absolutely dangerous (after dark) ghetto. Arizona stadium has that stupid Bear Down logo that makes zero sense when it isnt covered up by the daily dust storm. Tempe stadium is huge and half filled and hot as hell. Reser is a decent all around visit but nothing particularly memorable.
My point is the author should actually visit some of these places before ranking them.
Not all, mind you, but most...
The only stadiums I’ve not visited have been Autzen, Martin, Colorado and the new Stanford Stadium.
a few more categories, maybe
I think Rabbit is right, a 1-10 scale might be better for the scoring. Ranking CU’s average attendance of 46K or Utah’s 45 above SC’s 80 in “fan quality” is questionable. The “packed” and “loud” criteria favor small stadiums and great acoustics over the actual fans. So maybe I’d rate attendance, % of capacity filled and noise as sub-categories. I’d also add weather, architecture/beauty of the stadium(excepting Cal/UCLA/SC’s classic bowls and Folsom most of these stadiums are pretty ugly buildings), tailgating/gameday atmosphere/surrounding environment and traditions/unique features.
You can't rate solely on pure numbers.
That’s why you need to do stuff like percentage of capacity. But of course that’s not fair as well.
However LA fans, are for the most part, not good football fans. For that matter LA Fans are not good sports fans. And this is coming from someone who is a Laker, Rams, and Dodger fan. I’ve been a Rams fan even when they were in LA.
LA Fans can occassionally turn it on and be fantastic. Laker Playoff crowds, are a far cry different than Laker regular season crowds. (Especially the Laker Playoff crowds in the ESA. Sorry had to go there!)
Heck the What’s more important in a crowd is an argument that’s constantly going on here in the state. Do you want 45000 loud raucous noisy fans, or do you want 63000 fans most of whom sit down, and knit for most of the game.
Here's one vote for knitting
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Pretty sure, yeah
The only time I ever went to a game in Provo that didn’t involve Utah was once in high school. My friend’s grandpa had season tickets and took us. Can’t remember if his grandma knitted or not.
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It's definitely reserved...
Their fans aren’t loud. There was something about them jiggling keys during the 80s and 90s that was their ‘thing’ – but I don’t believe they do that anymore.
I heard it is against their conduct code to cheer.
Are those comments allowed around here?
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
It's against their code of conduct to have fun...
at least none that doesn’t include the Osmond family.
by -FeloniousMonk on Jul 20, 2011 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Even Mormon Utes think the BYU conduct code is ridiculous
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by CrimsonUte on Jul 20, 2011 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, I remember that "jingling keys" thing...
what a bunch of wholesome finks!
by -FeloniousMonk on Jul 20, 2011 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions
sweet!
this article got linked to from Ted Miller’s blog! Don’t know if someone already mentioned that, I have only read half of these comments.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jul 19, 2011 8:35 AM MDT reply actions
Memorial
Yah, this is already beaten to death, but I gotta give my review of the place.
Rickety, archaic, spartan, old-school, and all that. Definitely. It had all the creature comforts and cutting edge design that 1920 could offer. And more.
But beyond the splintery wooden benches, unadorned concrete, tiny scoreboard, and barely functional video board, Memorial is hands-down the most impressive stadium at which I’ve had the pleasure of watching a game.
The setting is unmatched in the conference – only Husky stadium comes close. But the view of the bay, San Francisco, the Bay & Golden Gate bridges, and the city slowly sweeping to the coast is just amazing. Add to that the hillsides and rustic panorama of the eastern side, and you’ve got one pretty little place.
The atmosphere can be remarkable. Games against SC, Ucla, or furd always bring out a level of pagentry that gives college games that extra special feel. The fans (from both sides) are often pumped and there is an electricity in the air. Add a rowdy and raucus Tightwad Hill, and you’ve got yourself a football crowd. And the clear autumn days, with the crispiness and sting of sharp cold in the air combined with a bright sun and clear blue skies, is really something.
The area surrounding the stadium also lends itself to the atmosphere. A stop at Top Dog and a drink at Henry’s before marching up the hill is a must.
The downside is the place was a dump. Concession stands, toilets, and seating were horrible. The area below the stands was a sty, and the ameneties were non-existent. Sure, those will be fixed with the upgrade, but until then, it was really awful. And, sadly, there is really no tailgate area. Open spaces (like Faculty Glade) are sparse and scattered, making no cohesive area for getting together and pre-gaming. That, sadly, will not change as there just isn’t room.
However, when compared to the massive scab wounds like the Rose Bowl (great history, shitty fans and awful sightlines), war zones like the Colloseum (another dump), or uber-hostile and dangerous places like Arizona Stadium (it feels like they let all the local inmates attend games), and deserts lilke furd stadium, Memorial is nirvana.
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God, I love the Cal fans. It's like Dead Poets Society meets Any Given Sunday
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jul 19, 2011 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not a lot of problems with your rankings, although the methodology is a little suspect
Example: Outside of UCLA and Stanford, the other student sections are all negligible (pretty much zero difference between your #1 Arizona and #9 WSU) . They’re all loud, they’re all big, they’re all drunk.
Perhaps a grading system rather than a ranking system would be more accurate.
Even then, you're hitting on the same problem...
Where there is minimal difference between one team or the next. Then you’re faced with a clumping and a list that, unfortunately, is forced to rank a team down solely because it’s barely edged out by another.
Case in point: I rank Reser 9th. That looks bad (boy have I heard it from Oregon State fans on Twitter), yet the L.A. Coliseum and Rose Bowl don’t have that much better of an average. So while they’re 9th, they’re still remarkably close to 6th.
I think you’d run into a similar situation with a grading system because, as you said, there is little difference.
Either way, you’re looking at potentially dismissing a group of fans.
I don't buy that clumping data means its innaccurate
spreading data out for the sake of it being spread out skews results.
Ranking is more fun
and make for better discussion.
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I'm not sure what the student section ranking is based on
USC’s student section is the largest, but 8th best? Is it because they’re not as loud because they’re in a huge stadium?
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
USC student section is the largest? I don't know about this.
Where is the list of the student section sizes? I know you are one of the smallest in undergraduate population size. I don’t think USC’s is the largest unless you seat 17,000 and all the other Pac12 student sections are 16,000. I know at WSU the student section is at least 1/3 of Martin Stadium. Also, USC combines the student seating section with donors, which skews things. See below. This makes it easier for donors to mingle with the students. I think this is how O.J. Mayo got his flat-screen, they just slipped it in his pocket at a football game.
Undergrad Size
1. ASU – 56k
2. UW – 43k
3. UA – 31k
4. UCLA – 27k
5. Cal – 26k
6. CU – 25k
7. Utah – 23k
8. WSU – 21k
9. UO – 20k
10. OSU – 20k
11. USC – 17k
12. Stanford – 8k
USC Seating Chart:

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As long as the athletes and donors don't mix right?
Actually the donors and students don’t mix, the students sit east of tunnel 24 the donors west of it. Just like at other schools the students even have a separate entrance (ASU is the only school I know of that fences the students off, which says a lot). As for number of tickets, it’s 12K. There was a huge blow up when the school tried to downsize it by 2K a few years back. Didn’t work out so well, they had to give the seats back.
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions
An earlier commenter cited an article that states WSU and USC set aside 12,000 student seats
And lists the other student sections as smaller. I don’t know if it’s 100% accurate.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
That probably sounds about right.
12,000 tickets for 17,000 undergrads…that is impressive, but you also play in the (large) coliseum…but on the other hand they could always sell those good seats at a higher price. Kudos to the USC administration.
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Of course most games there isn't 12K
That was why the school tried to take them back, the fact that most fo the games get about 8-9K (that 10K would be enough). Of course the first game after doing that USC opened with Arkansas or Nebraska, someone like that. Kids were turned away and they were none too happy. Of course it didn’t help the school didn’t tell them they took 2K away, it came out the week after. Doh!
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Thats funny.
Of course when they decide to make that decision it backfires. I am surprised they didn’t have an overflow section for the students for the big games. It is not like there isn’t overflow room (open sections) in the Coliseum. Put them up by the Olympic Torch.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
The overflow use to be that blue upper right hand section
back in the day. At some point they decided to sell those to visiting fans but the only ones who fill it are for teams that travel in major numbers. They can sell them to students if the visiting team turns tickets back in, of course those are the games students don’t show up in huge numbers anyway. Catch 22
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions
The problem with those "open sections" is there are no seats in them
and you can’t see the game from those locations. Once they moved the field off center and put in the sundeck bleachers, those sections were not usable.
by ev on Jul 19, 2011 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I kinda knew that.
I was just being a little facetious.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Bigalke- you are commenting on a subjective assessment on a fanblog....
…and you are critiquing his methodology?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Really god rankings, Jazzy
As always, you are da master. I think the list is perfect as is.
Lets not bring religion into this.
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by SoCalCoug on Jul 19, 2011 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just a quick question...
is Stadium Tradition the traditions that the fans have or the history of the stadium?
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jul 19, 2011 6:25 PM MDT reply actions
Good question, I think stadium tradition...
I should have put history instead of tradition – since fan tradition fits better. But yeah, I meant stadium history.
Okay I see.
All the stadiums in the Pac are pretty historic. WSU has been playing football at that sight since 1892.
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jul 19, 2011 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
That should say:
“For example WSU has been playing football at that sight since 1892”
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I wonder where BYU would fit...
Just for fun, where would LES fit in the rankings if it had been invited to the Pac12 in some sad alternate universe:
Fan Quality: 12. Sure they have a lot of people show up, but almost everyone sits down the whole game, and the boo the refs more than cheer for their own team.
Stadium Quality: 11. maybe? Way too many seats concentrated in the north and south end zones, and the bleachers are way more cramped then at RES.
Student Section: 12. Again there are a lot of students, but they’re spread out in different sections all over the stadium, and their seats change every game. There is no unity, no group cheers, and very little noise relative to their numbers.
Stadium Tradition: 11. The 1990 win against #1 ranked Miami was the only truly historic game ever played at LES.
Stadium Surroundings: 3 or 4. The one redeeming factor at LES, Timp is a gorgeous mountain even if its in Provo. And I have some great memories of sitting at the very top of the north end zone with my fellow Ute brethren, admiring the view to the south while our boys dismantle the zoobs.
As much as it pains me to say this...
LES Nessman Memorial Stadium just might be numero uno in the category of views from the stadium in the country. Provostan itself is such a stripmall of a town it brings it down a little, but so long as you don’t look west (which really isn’t so bad once in the stadium and sitting up high), and never look around at the generic concrete slab of a stadium itself, the views are magnificent.
by -FeloniousMonk on Jul 22, 2011 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions
PAC 12? STADIUMS
I’m 75 so my comments are moot RE: current events ( UW ’62 ). Never been to UO , OSU, WSC stadiums, always figured games there were irrelevant!
Stanford hard to figure, coliseum can host impressive games, the Rose Bowl’s great when UW beats UM.
Trust me tho, NOTHING like going to Husky games by yacht!
Be fun to see how U and C fit in to OUR big picture.
It's WSU now...
Sorry bugs me when WSU is referred to as WSC
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jul 26, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions

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