Media not impressed with Utah
For three years, the Utes were a staple in the top-25, only spending a week or two on the outside during part of the '09 season. However, for the first time since 2007, the Utes don't find themselves ranked either at the start of the season or after week one and, unless they beat SC, could spend most of their inaugural Pac-12 season unranked.
Utah began the season ranked 30th, however, after last week's performance, dropped five spots and were passed in the poll by Maryland, BYU, Iowa and Houston.
All that after a win.
Their opponent this week, SC, fell from 25th to 28th - making the first Pac-12 game ever a contest between two unranked teams. In fact, only Stanford and Oregon are ranked now and the Ducks fell ten spots to 13th after their loss to LSU Saturday.
Can the Utes reemerge on to the national stage and find their way into the top-25 with a win Saturday? It's possible - but don't expect it.
Right now, the media isn't sold on Utah or the Pac-12.
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thats no surprise to me
I always felt that they never liked us.
When we are on the media its usually not because we won. It’s because we lost I was always hoping that when we joined the pac we would get respect.
So we will have to take it by the horns and fight for the respect we need.
Are you sure he was safe? It looked like an out to the entire statium. Well bad call Blue.
by Alavel on Sep 6, 2011 1:28 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Wait … you guys actually thought you’d get more respect by joining the Pac-10?
Have you not been paying attention to the derision, scorn, and dismissive attitude of everyone east of Las Vegas for the past 25 years?
Welcome to the Pac-12, the Rodney Dangerfield of college football. Even if you win the national title, you’ll still get no respect.
"Thanks. Go Bears!" - Ernest Owusu: the next great Cal DE
I know...I know...
It’s remarkable to me how Texas, who didn’t look any more impressive against an awful Rice team than SC did against a Big Ten team, can go from unranked to ranked, while the Trojans drop out of the top-25 altogether.
WTF?
I hate Texas. I don’t want ’em in our conference. See, now I can say that. :D
by JazzyUte on Sep 6, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with everything you said,
but the MWC gets even less respect. Even after wins, sometimes impressive wins, Utah frequently lost ground in the polls. I’m gonna go back to the old standby of east coast bias.
They could drop us to 120...
respect will come if we beat USC.
last year we were at #6 in the AP poll until TCU embarrassed us at home. So I place very little value in polls this early in the season.
If we are #30 after 12 weeks and we are at 12-0 then I would be pissed.
Until then, as Al Davis used to say, “just win baby”
by Utah-UCLA alum on Sep 6, 2011 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions
no if we were 12 and 0
They would probly rank us #2 after some SEC team that has 1 loss
Are you sure he was safe? It looked like an out to the entire statium. Well bad call Blue.
by Alavel on Sep 6, 2011 9:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
A win over USC at USC...
and everything is right with the world. If the Utes win their games the rankings will fall in line.
I am a Utah Man sir... I will be till I die.
These early polls mean little
if utah performs they will earn respect. that’s kind of how it’s always been like.
I completely agree
and the polls are necessary for hyping some early season games. I just wish that once mid-October rolls around every voter throws out their old poll, and evaluates every team based on their resume’, rather than perpetually amending their preseason poll.
I support the NBA player's union.
Not worried about the polls right now
I’m more concerned about getting the win at USC to help perch the Utes atop the South division to stay. Rankings will be whatever and full of bias, we don’t need to worry about them unless Utah is undefeated at the end of the year. It’s the ugly part of the sport that I hate, so I have to ignore it.
I don't care
About the polls, or respect, not nearly as much as I used to. That’s the beauty of being on the inside. We win enough games, we play in the Rose Bowl. Doesn’t matter what the media thinks.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Sep 6, 2011 3:34 PM MDT reply actions
To be fair, there is a reason to care...
The Pac-12 title game goes to the team with the higher rating if they finish with a tie. Right now, let’s say Oregon wins out (meaning they defeated Stanford) and, as unlikely as it is, the Utes go 11-1, ratings then become a very important factor in who gets to host the Pac-12 title game.
Not saying that will happen (it won’t), but…
Conference standings determine the homefield, but conference records could easily be identical. The first tie-breaker is head-to-head matchup. If the teams did not play, then we go to BCS standings. There are tie-breakers after that, but it would be hard for me to believe that neither team is ranked in the BCS standings. Anyway, Jazzy’s point is that rankings could determine homefield for the Pac-12 Championship.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/19364/tiebreaker-for-pac-12-championship-game
I thought
The first tie breaker was beating Stanford down in the championship game. =]
by Joseph Silverzweig on Sep 6, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
All I care about is the product on the field.
I just hope they play hard, win as many as they can, hopefully go to bowl game and entertain me along the way. That’s all I can ask for. Besides, after last week, the Utes don’t deserve to be ranked any higher than 35 (and certainly neither does BYU). Boring, pedestrian wins like last week’s are worse than close, but exciting losses when it comes to entertainment.
Aaaah...the beauty of not being in the MWC anymore.
Early season rankings are do-or-die for non-BCS teams. Now, the goal is try to win the conference and play in the Rose Bowl, which is all totally based on winning games not on people’s opinions that don’t know what a Ute is.
I don’t give a rat’s ass about the BCS rankings anymore (well, not much anyway).
On another topic, am I in the minority in thinking everyone is negatively over-reacting to Utah’s “win”? Their defense looked great. Their brand new Tight End game looked great. Their running game looked great. I saw some amazing fullback blocks for big tailback gains. Their turnover margin looked great.
So Wynn under threw the one-and-only pass called for him down field. So what. He looked awful in a few 5 year dumpoff passes that went 3 yards. I’ll give you that. However, one game for an offense against a weak opponent that went well for one quarter and than just coasted lacklusterly doesn’t mean that much to me. I don’t think it is a good predictor of how the season is going to go. This USC game will be the telling one.
The problem is...
it was a boring, uninspired performance. It seemed half-hearted and half-assed, and that’s just no fun to watch. See, when a team really tries and gives it their all, no matter if it’s a slow-moving, smash-mouth type of game or a barn-burning pass-happy shoot out, you can’t help but be entertained, and even enthralled. What we saw on Thursday seemed tentative, and somewhat timid. It’s hard to get behind that.
by -FeloniousMonk on Sep 6, 2011 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
I just don’t think that has much predictive value on how they will preform the rest of the year. In other words, I don’t see their lack of an entertaining product in this game against MSU as being a decent reason to be worried about the season or a good reason to downgrade their ranking or future outlook. For example, 0 for 1 on throws downfield don’t really tell you anything about Wynn’s arm. He could have completed the next two if Chow didn’t turtle up the game plan with the big lead.
There may be many other reasons to be worried that come to light in the USC game…
I get what you're saying and I agree.
All I’m saying is that boring performance is helping to cause this pessimistic fan outlook. Watching that game was an unsatisfying experience, and some are lashing out as a consequence. Fans are like that. Logic and rational thought aren’t a prerequisite for becoming a sports fan (unfortunately).
by -FeloniousMonk on Sep 7, 2011 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Just win!!!
If Utah wins and continues to win the rankings will come. Anyone that pays attention to the polls this early is a little ridiculous, because they are all hypothetical. I do have to admit i check them out too! But clearly they mean very little. Rankings shouldnt come out until week 4 or 5. Why was Georgia ranked 19th, or even ranked for that matter?
by UtesFootball on Sep 6, 2011 6:00 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Oh...
I guess going 6-7 last year and losing to UCF qualifies you to be ranked this year. It’s straight up bull sh1t if you ask me!!!
by UtesFootball on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Pac-12 image games for Utah
As for Utah doing its part to uphold the Pac-12 national image.
Well if we crush the tds, that will get some big time notice from the press. Though I believe tds homer and AP voter Jon Wilner might rank us even lower.
And then we play Pitt again. I am sure they want to pay us back for last year. QB Tino is a year older and a year wiser. Another tough, tough game.
Pitt
looked far from tough last week.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Sep 6, 2011 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions
don't overreact
Too much worry among Ute fans.
The win vs MSU was a fine win. We clobbered them from the get-go and never were threatened. That is what we were expected to do. Maybe it wasn’t sexy, but we beat them soundly.
BYU passed us in the AP poll, but not the coaches poll. Big difference. AP voters have probably never played a down of football in their lives… thus, their rankings mean less. The coaches know which is the better team.
We will give USC a game. They looked bad vs Minnesota, so they are very beatable.
Forget the rankings. The last thing I want at this point is to add pressure on top of pressure. Fine, leave us unranked. If we deserve it, we will get there soon enough.
No more Non-AQ Mentality
We just gotta win our conference and we get a BCS bowl.
We go undefeated, we go to the NCG.
If we go undefeated and don’t get into the NCG, we aren’t the only fan-base talking about the controversy.
These early polls don’t matter any more, because we will jump the TCUs, BSUs, and BYUs so long as we go undefeated – Even if they do the same. It’s wonderful.
by jim2 on Sep 7, 2011 2:34 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
"Media not impressed with Utah"
Neither was I, honestly.
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