New changes could help, but call me skeptical.
If you didn't see it already, it looks like big changes are coming to the BCS. Here is the article discussing it. Of course, there are no specifics given, but we are assured that things will be improved.
It's about time.
If you know me, you know I am a big fan of the small guys in college football. The injustices that have been dealt to the '06 Boise State Broncos, '08 Utah Utes, and '10 TCU Horned Frogs can never be fixed. In fact, instead of addressing the injustices, the BCS powers have absorbed the three top "Non-AQ" programs. The BCS even has a set of built in excuses. When Hawaii gets demolished in the Sugar Bowl, they say "see, the small guys dont really belong!". When Boise, TCU, and Utah win, they claim that the other team was "unmotivated" to play against a little guy and that the other team really would have won if they had tried. Sounds kind of like an insecure third grader to me, but I digress.
I don't want to get into a debate about whether or not those teams should have been national champions. What I want to do is argue that they should have had their chance. All three of those teams did everything that was asked of them. They beat everyone who faced them. All of them ended the season by defeating a "BCS" team in a BCS game.
What changes are in store to improve the system? Will teams who go undefeated be left out of the picture? Will we get to see teams earn it? How it all plays out will be very interesting to watch in the next few months.
This season, we have a national champion that did not win all of its home games. It was not considered worthy to even play for its own conference title, and yet it was able to backdoor its way into the title game because other teams lost. That should never be the case. Teams should be in the title game because they earned it, not because others lost.
Call me skeptical about any real improvements being made. With Boise, TCU, and Utah in power conferences going forward, it is easier to justify the money being kept in the hands of the BCS fat cats. I sincerely doubt that they will make any sincere effort to make sure that all are given a fair shot to win the title. History would be on my side.
I won't be at any of these meetings, but let me tell you what I would do to fix college football.
1. Do away with preseason polls.
Yes, the fans love them, but they are worthless and honestly unfair. They put too much emphasis on where you were last year and if you don't start the season ranked, you have no chance to move up into the top spot. Take the '08 Utes for example. After a 12-0 season, which included victories over top 10 TCU and ranked BYU and Oregon State teams, the Utes were number 7, with several teams ahead of them with one loss. All this was because they laid some eggs in 2007 and weren't ranked to end the season. How you did the year before should have no bearing on what happens to you this year. If you went 0-12 one year, and were able to go 12-0 the next, you deserve a shot at the title. Period.
If we change it so that the first poll is not released until five weeks into the season, it will give us a better idea of who is who and who the contenders are. This will never happen because fans love the preseason poll.
2. Change the coaches poll.
Coaches are busy during the season. They don't have time to go through and watch a bunch of other teams games to determine who the top 25 teams are. Sure, they have someone else help them usually, but then its not really the coaches' vote is it?
3. One poll, and one poll only.
Let's get one poll. I don't care if you combine voters, but let's just get one poll. We need a mixture of retired coaches, media members, computers (maybe, I guess), and former players. It also needs to come from a wide variety of backgrounds so that as much bias is eliminated as possible.
The system can be made right. You can't please everyone, but we need something better than what we have now. Will the powers that be get it done? I doubt it, but there is always a chance.
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Can we add another option to the poll?
It would be “Who cares? If we win the conference we play in the Rose Bowl anyway!”
Rose Bowl>>BCS “championship”
maybe.
but if I can’t, ill count your vote as one.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 10, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Isn't the BCS ranking system really the "one poll"
And I don’t recall when it comes out, but it’s at least a month into the season before there is the first BCS ranking. I think the BCS ranking is one of the few things the BCS has done right.
Even though Alabama won, I still don’t think they should have played for the NC. If LSU beat them in Alabama, how can the Tide get one more chance to play for all of the marbles?
I don’t know what rules should be made whether it’s that only a conference champion can play for the NC, or maybe that if you didn’t at least play in your CCG, you can’t play for the NC. I don’t know. Is it possible that ‘Bama was no less than the second best team in the country going into the NC? Sure, I guess so. Now they’re crowned the best, even though LSU and ’Bama are tied in their matchups.
I would have had an even less problem with Oregon getting another stab at LSU. There’s something about division rivals playing for the NC that screams “broken system” to me.
The BCS Poll
factors in one of the other polls significantly. So while it is not released until the fourth week of the season, it relies on the preseason polls.
everything else I agree with, whole heartedly.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 10, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
Imagine how screwed the 49ers would be in this ridiculous system
6-10 last year to 13-3 this year and everybody would cry its because they beat up on one of the weakest divisions even though most of their wins came outside of their division.
by khaostheory117 on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 PM MST reply actions
Plus One
The only positive change that has any chance of coming out of this is a move to the Plus One model – a 4 team playoff. Which is 2x better than the 2 team playoff we have now. Polls suck and should only be a small guide like in NCAA basketball. The final matchups should be done by a committee a la March Madness with full representation from all parties like they do.
DEFINITELY get rid of coaches poll. Most biased and ulterior motive piece of trash we have.
BTW, case of how polls suck, Oregon dropped from #3 to #14 after losing on the road to #4 LSU (who only moved to #3). But #2 Bama loses AT HOME to LSU and drops a single slot to #3 the next week, still ahead of undefeated Stanford. Insane in the membrane.
by Thlete on Jan 10, 2012 1:21 PM MST reply actions 4 recs
your last paragrapgh just makes me shake my head.....
unreal……….
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
lol!
Man, I love Ute fans! I have missed the “Kill BigBen” option, and how it always fares well! You guys are the best!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 10, 2012 4:43 PM MST reply actions
I'm all for a playoff
I just back from watching the Tide win another national championship. Are things going to change? Maybe. I’m all for a full on out 16 team playoff with conference champs getting automatic bids. But, the PAC-12 and B1G are against a playoff. So, the SEC will continue to win. The only thing I didn’t like about the game was that we couldn’t chant SEC at the end of the game.
SEC, SEC, SEC
by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Jan 11, 2012 12:57 PM MST reply actions
Actually The Pac-12 USED To be against it
But since Larry Scott came into power, we have really heard one way or another how he leans.
My money would be on a man as smart, and visionary as Mr Scott knowing what College Football is losing out on (either revenue, marketing, or publicity) by not having a true playoff.
PAC-12 is leading the playoff charge now...
According to a Dennis Dodd article, the PAC-12 presidents, according to the ASU one, are going to push hard for a playoff ASAP. Their likely model is an 8 team playoff made up of the highest ranked conference champions. Sounds awesome to me.
It's just another area where...
Scott is doing everything he can to distance the new Pac-12, from the old Pac-10.
Thlete, what I don't see happening is Scott putting the tradition of the Rose Bowl on the line.
And by tradition, I mean PAC-12 vs. B1G. Those conferences will fight until their dying breath to keep that game as is.
If it stays, how do you conduct a playoff around that? If you make it part of the playoff (as in, the Rose with P12 vs B10 as one of the qtr finals) does that put those conferences at a disadvantage as one will always knock the other out of the first round every year.
It seems in the best interest of both conferences to allow the champion of each to advance as far as possible every year. If you do that, the Rose goes away as we know it.
Am I missing something? I don’t see how a playoff AND the Rose can co-exist in a way that is beneficial to both conferences. Seems like one or the other to me.
by fountainofute on Jan 12, 2012 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
I think that's the old PAC 10.
I’m not saying things are 180 degrees different, but the new PAC 12 wants to be cutting edge, not stuck in the 1920s with the B1G.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Jan 12, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
Yes and no.
In the local sports radio interview with Scott just a couple weeks ago, he reiterated his hardline stance on keeping the tradition of the Rose intact.
I love the Rose now that we actually have legit access to it, but I see is as one of the more significant barriers to a playoff.
If it’s a plus-1, I think the Rose remains, and it’s often the semi-final game, but if we want an 8- or 16-team playoff, somethings got to give in regard to the Rose and it’s affiliations and other traditions.

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